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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 8, 2005 22:18:07 GMT -5
Arthur Custance 1910-1985
Education: 1940: M.A. in Oriental Languages, majored in Physical and Cultural Anthropology, University of Toronto 1959: Ph.D. University of Ottawa Thesis: Does Science Transcend Culture? Career: 1940 - 1951: Professional Engineer (Otis Fensom, Henderson Electric, Consultant) 1955 - 1970: Research scientist in human thermoregulation, Defence Research Board, Government of Canada, Ottawa Scientific Achievements: developed and designed respirator mask, mask-sizing meter, anthropometric facial contour measuring device. and the Custance Sudorimeter for accurate measurement of levels of heat stress. He favoured the Origins Model of the Gap Theory.
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Post by phil on Nov 8, 2005 22:31:30 GMT -5
Got anybody a little more up to date ... ??
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Post by phil on Nov 8, 2005 22:33:25 GMT -5
Bah ! Nevermind !
No need to answer that
It's pointless ... !!
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Post by phil on Nov 8, 2005 22:53:58 GMT -5
Curiosity got the better of me ... Besides I drank too much coffee during tonight's school board meeting !! This was taken from this site ... www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c003.htmlThere are many variations of the gap theory. According to Fields, the theory can be summarized as follows:
In the far distant dateless past, God created a perfect heaven and perfect earth. Satan was ruler of the earth which was peopled by a race of "men" without any souls. Eventually, Satan, who dwelled in a garden of Eden composed of minerals (Ezekiel 28), rebelled by desiring to become like God (Isaiah 14). Because of Satan's fall, sin entered the universe and brought on the earth God's judgment in the form of a flood (indicated by the water of 1:2), and then a global ice age when the light and heat from the sun were somehow removed. All the plant, animal, and human fossils upon the earth today date from this "Lucifer's flood" and do not bear any genetic relationship with the plants, animals, and fossils living upon the earth today.[13]
That is not a theory... That is a belief !! Here's - ONCE AGAIN! - the definition of the word theory ... From Wikipedia : In various sciences, a theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a certain natural or social phenomenon, thus either originating from observable facts or supported by them (see scientific method).
In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations made that is predictive, logical, testable, and has never been falsified.
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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 8, 2005 23:06:33 GMT -5
That isn't exactly how the Gap Theory works from my perspective, just like scientists disagree about evolution.
Phil You can observe the Gap Theory from Natural Science. Creation HAS never been falsified
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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 8, 2005 23:10:17 GMT -5
I would have to refer to Chalmers and Bullinger as more along the lines of my perspective on the Gap Theory.
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Post by phil on Nov 8, 2005 23:21:55 GMT -5
Dead guys from the 19th century ...
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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 8, 2005 23:26:36 GMT -5
Dead guys from the 19th century ... You mean like Darwin?
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Post by phil on Nov 8, 2005 23:42:02 GMT -5
Well... The guy may have died in 1882 but his THEORY is still, after more than 150 years of studies the only one that, as accurately as possible, describes the history of life on earth ...
It is still being worked upon every day !!
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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 9, 2005 0:17:55 GMT -5
Phil, that is your opinion. Those quotes I used were not to debate anything. Those quotes were because of what kmc said to me:
Not meant in a derisive way, I am just interested in meeting someone who is not completely insane who believes in the Biblical account of creation
See?
My point was that there are many people out there that aren't/weren't completely insane that believed in a "creator".
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Post by shin on Nov 9, 2005 0:37:37 GMT -5
We won't know if you're truly insane until you tell us how you think humans (not to mention all the other millions of species of creatures on this planet) were created.
And I mean in the physical sense, not in the religious sense.
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 9, 2005 10:06:49 GMT -5
Theories, shmeories. I know the facts:
The human race is directly descended from a Master Race whose DNA we inherited. They originate from another section of our own galaxy, and they made sure to keep backup carbon-copies of their most precious asset (their genetic code) and keep them safely stored away on this planet, the 3rd from our Sun. (The reason they did this, is because in gathering up all of their Knowledge, they became accutely aware that they had put themselves in danger of compromising the integrity of the survival of their race by dabbling in subatomic forces beyond their initial comprehension. Luckily for them, they developed enough wisdom to ensure a backup copy of their race was kept safely in storage on another planet, just in case they DID blow themselves to Kingdom Come.)
All the scriptures have undergone severe mutations in their editing and translating, until today, over 2000 years later, we've resulted in the various, disparate-but-loosely-connected religions of the world, all of which have either interpreted these "holy texts" too literally or not literally enough.
Anyone with a clear thinking mind today can actually discern the real truth of the meaning behind what's left of these scriptures. The answer is glaringly obvious in the schematic of the "Tree Of Life" alone. It depicts 10 spheres, the lowest one being our planet Earth. The upper 9 represent the planetary bodies in the "heavens" above. The word "Jehovah" in its original Hebrew context was intended as a plural, rather than the singular fundamental Christians perceive it as being today. Hence the plural form of "Jehovah" is referencing a race of beings - - our parent race from deeper inside our galaxy. If you look closely enough at the design of the schematic of the Tree Of Life, you will see it is intended to represent the downward spiral of the DNA double helix. At the bottom of this model spiral are Adam and Eve, the generic dual sex representations of our Master Race.
The entire point about our being told not to "eat of the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge", is so that we could remain domesticated in order that we not repeat their history by inadvertantly stumbling onto the secrets of subatomic power and mistakenly blowing ourselves all to Kingdome Come, as they are in danger of doing (and for all we know, may have done so already).
Hence the mythology of the serpent whispering to Eve to go ahead and eat of that fruit, because it would grant her and Adam the full knowledge of the universe being kept from them by their "Master", the "Lord God", Jehovah. Her feeding this potential time-bomb "apple" (whose properties of bestowing knowledge work on the same principle as the twi-edged blade, i.e, it can cut both ways) is representative of our having begun the Old Vicious Cycle yet again. (Of course the "apple" is just a symbol to get across the idea that, unfortunately, our little Adam & Eve got it into their heads to be Free and operate of their own accord & newly learned set of rules. Hence being "cast out of the garden of Eden".)
Now it is up to us to successfully create a carbon-copy of Ourselves, and safely store another "Adam and Eve" on yet another pristine (garden of eden) world and keep our fingers crossed that this time, they listen to our wisdom and remain domesticated so that somewhere, a clean backup of our race may continue to exist, should we ourselves stumble across the unfortunate circumstances of literally destroying our race on this planet with nuclear devastation.
And so it goes.
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 9, 2005 10:07:34 GMT -5
(Just thought I'd set the record straight, once and for all. Have a nice daaaaaaaay;)
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Post by Galactus on Nov 9, 2005 10:47:01 GMT -5
I see no reason a person can't believe in both science and God...however Creationism cannot be considered a credible science becuase it's not science at all. Science is concernded with how and why, creationism seeks to answer neither of those...it's never been falsafied becuase it's not based on facts, it's based on faith. Are their holes in evolution? Sure, but there's alot about it that has been proven, but there's nothing provable about Creationism...in fact that's it's base. "We don't know so we'll just say it was God"...crediting the hand of a benevolent creater is the exact opposite of science. Accept it if you want, but also accept that's sciences job to try to figure out "How".
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Post by Rit on Nov 9, 2005 11:05:29 GMT -5
Thorn, i have a good friend who believes what you posted is completely true. okay, so he's a dope dealer as well, but that is no tarnish on his character, as he does not indulge, and he sees himself as a canny businessman.
seriously though? he uses my intellect every now and then to sort of verify if he's going off his rocker or if he's still on the sane side. he'll tell me his latest thoughts on it, and wait for some indication to see if i think it makes any kind of internal sense.
what do i think? i think his imagination is interpreting myths to their logical extension, and his categories of physical perception, symbolic perception, intuitive perception and (surprisingly) his high capacity for rational thought have all merged....
...ending up with the views he has.
i don't think them harmful in the slightest, and as allegories, there is much worth in them. So i indulge him.
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