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Post by Ryosuke on Apr 13, 2007 22:36:30 GMT -5
Whatever. Just ban him, strat.
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Post by wayved on Apr 14, 2007 1:26:14 GMT -5
Adam-hey I hear you. I didnt understand the urgent GRAVITY of the situation. I just come here to talk about music. I didnt mean to be an ass. I did not know he was banned before and changed his IP. Thats crap. _______________________________________ FOR WHAT ITS WORTH:
I do know that a couple of the people I respected from these boards are gone now due to alot of stupid shit. Theve sent me e-mails saying its bullshit. Pisses me off. I was here in the maybe- not-so-early days of Rolling Stone message boards but as usual I just posted about music but was not all "into it" or what have you. It wasent about politics or pissing people off or being an asshole, at least for me. I just like music.
to me these boards arent just a timewaster--if I wanted that shit I would throw on the Playstation or something. ________________________ Lord of the Flies? Nazi Germany? What?
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Post by Adam on Apr 14, 2007 1:46:34 GMT -5
I don't think you were being an ass with your last post and if I seemed like an ass with my retort, that wasn't intentional.
And I agree with you on the importance of boards like this, especially when it comes to music. I guarantee you, more than any music article or reference book I'll ever read, the discussions on music on this board and the old RS.com boards influenced my music collection and listening habits more than anything. It still does.
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Post by Ayinger on Apr 14, 2007 10:14:34 GMT -5
i ignore him when his an ass, and talk with him when he's normal, when i run into him that is. exactly.
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Post by Galactus on Apr 14, 2007 10:28:35 GMT -5
Rocky's gone now too? I gotta be honest holzman I don't think your "The only thing wrong with this place is people think something's wrong with it" theory's holding up too well. Seems like lately every time I come here I find one less reason to come back. Rocky being gone is a big one. I'm not blaming anyone, even pew. Banning pew isn't suddenly going to put a new shine on this place, he's easy to hang the blame on though. I can't put a name to what it is and I don't know how to fix it but I'm not going anywhere either.
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Post by Kensterberg on Apr 14, 2007 11:00:46 GMT -5
I have no idea what the "problem" here is now. None.
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Post by Galactus on Apr 14, 2007 11:23:53 GMT -5
What if, I ain't saying it is or isn't, it's management? Strat offered "the keys" to somebody else the other day...what say, if he wants it, we give it to Holzman for a few months and see if anything changes? I think everyone here likes and respects Ken, I nominate him.
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Post by Ryosuke on Apr 14, 2007 11:28:03 GMT -5
I can get behind Holzman as administrator.
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Post by Galactus on Apr 14, 2007 11:28:14 GMT -5
To clarify, I'm not saying it's strat's fault but that perhaps some new perspective in the drivers seat would be a step towards changing the atmosphere.
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Post by dolly on Apr 14, 2007 11:38:57 GMT -5
Ugh. For crying out loud. Is this thing still rambling on?
PEW was banned for his troll-like behaviour - and not a moment too soon. He didn't ask permission to come back, and he wasn't invited. He sneaked in using another username - then signed up again as PEW when he realised he was going to get away with it.
Sorry Strat, but if you have banned him and nothing has changed in regards to his attitude or behaviour, then to allow him to continue is pure weakness IMO.
You banned him once - you haven't unbanned him. Now cut the fucker adrift like you SHOULD have done the moment YOU realised he came back. Like we've all been asking you to do.
I don't blame Rocky or Ken for deleting, and the PEW is HUGELY instrumental in them doing so. I'd be tempted myself, but I've been down that route on another board and it's not one I want to go down again.
As for Pissin and Knight - their not returning is their own business. Knight doesn't post at Sedaka anymore anyway, so as far as I can see it's a total non-issue. And for the record - to show I'm not biased either way, I do think Knight was silly in his actions here, just as he was silly with his test bombing of the boards back in the old RS days - which he did do on one occasion - even if not for malicious purposes. As far as I'm aware, he didn't do it again.
And Pissin - happy at Sedaka. But like I say, gone. Non-issue. Thorn's arguments there are irrelevant.
What more is there to say? I think you should stay as moderator Strat, even if as board moderator there will always be tension. Just have the balls to do what you did before and stick to your guns. I don't think it can be spoken any plainer than that.
Ban.
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Post by KooL on Apr 14, 2007 11:58:42 GMT -5
If this were to happen, Ken is the only person on these boards I can honestly get behind. Everyone digs him and he seems to dig everyone. My only fear is if he ends up not liking the position, Strat won't take the keys back.
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Post by Mary on Apr 14, 2007 12:03:21 GMT -5
i voted to ban the fucker forever. the reason for this has nothing to do with PEW, actually. in truth i could give less of a shit whether he stays or goes and under most circumstances i would have ignored this poll entirely or voted for the "i don't care" option. but i voted to ban him only because he seems to provoke so much frustration and discontent amongst people here i actually DO like, who actually did contribute a lot to this place, that i can't begin to fathom the wisdom of keeping some worthless pseudo-troll here at the possible cost of sacrificing awesome long-term members of these boards.
i don't know why the boards are suffering so much, i don't know if it's PEW or if he's just the straw that broke the camel's back or if it's long-term resentments coming to the surface or what, but i'll support anything that will potentially help this place get back on its feet and become vibrant again.
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Post by Kensterberg on Apr 14, 2007 12:06:43 GMT -5
I'm not running to take over Strat's job, but if he wants to take a little break from being the moderator and everyone here wants me, I won't turn it down.
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Post by dolly on Apr 14, 2007 12:21:41 GMT -5
I think Ken should lay out his intended manifesto. I want to know exactly what I'm voting for
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Post by upinkzeppelin2 on Apr 14, 2007 12:27:23 GMT -5
Rocky's gone? That truly sux.
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