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Post by chrisfan on Mar 2, 2005 10:09:01 GMT -5
It wasn't advocating in the way the Debbie Schl ... however you spell it ... 's of the world are saying that it does. But it DOES take a stand on the issue. I don't see how that is deniable.
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Post by JACkory on Mar 2, 2005 10:13:48 GMT -5
Come on now...forget Million Dollar Baby...I wanna know what you think of Pauly Shore Is Dead.
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Post by chrisfan on Mar 2, 2005 10:14:54 GMT -5
Come on now...forget Million Dollar Baby...I wanna know what you think of Pauly Shore Is Dead. I've posted what I think of it ... nothing.
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Post by Ampage on Mar 2, 2005 10:19:33 GMT -5
Can’t go there CF.
I thought Pauly Shore was funny when he first was on MTV, but got really old really fast.
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Post by JACkory on Mar 2, 2005 10:48:22 GMT -5
Can’t go there CF. I thought Pauly Shore was funny when he first was on MTV, but got really old really fast. Thata's more or less the premise of the movie. The Wiez starts feeling depressed because of the descending quality of his work, culminated in the lowest rated television pilot in the Fox Network's history, so he decides to fake his own death after he recieves a vision from Sam Kinnison. Sure enough, when the news breaks of his suicide the whole world seems to mourn and he's proclaimed a comedic genius. Lots of extremely self-deprecating humour on Pauly's part. It's actually pretty funny, and it's got so many cameos from the entertainment world (Sean Penn, Dr. Dre, Ben Stiller, the Hilton sisters just to name a few) that just name-checking all of them is half the fun. Light and insignificant fare, to be sure, but worth renting on Dollar Day.
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Post by Ampage on Mar 2, 2005 11:27:11 GMT -5
That does sound like it could be funny. There are just so many movies I want to see. I have Manchurian Candidate (2004), The Notebook (I’m a girl), and Speedway Junkie in my Netflix que.
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Post by Weeping_Guitar on Mar 2, 2005 13:55:26 GMT -5
I don't see how, as a whole, there can be any stance taken by Eastwood's film. Individual characters within Million Dollar Baby make personal choices, but there's nothing but absolute turmoil in making that choice and guidance against making it (you'd think it would be applauded by it's detractors for that). If there is any stance it's that it's personal and that's the only choice to make and that choice has drastic consequences. It's only advocacy is that of people having to make terrible decisions for themselves.
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Post by JACkory on Mar 2, 2005 14:01:03 GMT -5
That does sound like it could be funny. There are just so many movies I want to see. I have Manchurian Candidate (2004), The Notebook (I’m a girl), and Speedway Junkie in my Netflix que. I picked up The Notebook yesterday, thinking my wife might enjoy it and that it might not be such a bad movie. And it's not a bad movie...in fact, several performances are very good and the story is interesting enough...but there was just something missing and I'm not sure what. I don't think my wife even enjoyed it all that much. Don't get me wrong...It was okay. I didn't feel like I'd wasted my time with it when it was all over and done. Maybe it was just that it was SO predictable.
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Post by Ampage on Mar 2, 2005 14:25:02 GMT -5
Well, I thought Rachel McAdams was hysterical in Mean Girls and that Ryan G. is a pretty good actor too. Besides that, who doesn’t adore James Garner and Gena Rowlands? I still remember watching Gloria as a kid and recognizing a tough female character for the first time. She is genius.
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Post by chrisfan on Mar 2, 2005 14:48:31 GMT -5
I don't see how, as a whole, there can be any stance taken by Eastwood's film. Individual characters within Million Dollar Baby make personal choices, but there's nothing but absolute turmoil in making that choice and guidance against making it (you'd think it would be applauded by it's detractors for that). If there is any stance it's that it's personal and that's the only choice to make and that choice has drastic consequences. It's only advocacy is that of people having to make terrible decisions for themselves. There is a vast difference in how the argument is made on each side ... one side being argued by an incompetent and flat character, the other by the voice of wisdom for the entire movie. And I don't really think there were all that drastic of consequences for it ... well, except for one character.
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Post by Ampage on Mar 2, 2005 15:04:27 GMT -5
I literally just wrote and rewrote my post 3 times, but decided against it. It’s a total agree to disagree thing we got goin’ on. We got a thang goin’ onnnnnnnnnnnnnn…………..
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Post by JACkory on Mar 2, 2005 15:54:29 GMT -5
Well, I thought Rachel McAdams was hysterical in Mean Girls and that Ryan G. is a pretty good actor too. Besides that, who doesn’t adore James Garner and Gena Rowlands? I still remember watching Gloria as a kid and recognizing a tough female character for the first time. She is genius. Ryan Gosling's performance is the stand-out one throughout the film. I didn't even recognize Rachel McAdams as being the same actress from Mean Girls (which was a very good movie, IMO)...I thought she tended to over-emote somewhat in this film, but that's just me. As for James Garner...I've enjoyed his work in the past. He doesn't really get much of a chance to shine in this one, though, as the backstory is the main thing here. I don't want to spoil it for you so I won't go into any details. I'll be interested to hear what you think when you've had a chance to watch it. Anyone else expressed any opinions about it here? And btw, I finished watching Pauly Shore Is Dead. There was a scene I found somewhat offensive that featured Tommy Lee, but otherwise it was a pretty funny little movie. I didn't realize that Shore had spent 5 years writing, producing and directing it. And like I said, the cameos make it worth watching (Britney Spears, Snoop Dogg, Fred Durst, the list goes on)...
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Post by Ampage on Mar 2, 2005 15:56:20 GMT -5
Rachel McAdams had the best line (well, for me anyway) in Mean Girls:
“Boooooo, you whore!”
LMAO just thinking about it.
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Post by chrisfan on Mar 2, 2005 15:57:42 GMT -5
Ryan Gosling's performance is the stand-out one throughout the film. I didn't even recognize Rachel McAdams from as being the same actress from Mean Girls (which was a very good movie, IMO)...I thought she tended to over-emote somewhat in this film, but that's just me. As for James Garner...I've enjoyed his work in the past. He doesn't really get much of a chance to shine in this one, though, as the backstory is the main thing here. I don't want to spoil it for you so I won't go into any details. I'll be interested to hear what you think when you've had a chance to watch it. Anyone else expressed any opinions about it here? I read the book, and thought you could see where it was going a mile away. It disappointed me enough that I decided to skip the movie.
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Post by Ampage on Mar 2, 2005 16:00:48 GMT -5
I rented it because its suppose to be a tear jerker and if I don’t have a good half hour jag at least once a week its unhealthy for my mental stability.
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