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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 6, 2006 15:23:20 GMT -5
I've been watching I love the 80s on VH1, and I don't rememeber the 80's being anything like how they say it was.
I wonder why that is? Oh yea, because VH1 is fookin retarded and thinks real life is just like how it was played on TV.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 6, 2006 15:31:39 GMT -5
The 80s sucked which is why the music was so good. Nostalgia through the eyes of corporate geeks hell bent on ratings is always going to be a little hard to deal with. I'm glad I did grow up in the 80s though because I learned how to skateboard, use a card catalog in a library, it was the birth of modern computers and gaming, fanzine trading, tape trading, big hair, hard core, realizing that the soviets weren't that different from us (which is why I was so fascinated with the hammer and sickle and had alot of USSR shirts as a child), and really just a lot of fun.
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Post by Adam on Jun 6, 2006 19:21:16 GMT -5
That show is interested only in the materalistic aspects of the 80s, not necessarily the lifestyle.
My childhood was as regular as it would've been in the 70s or the 90s, although my access to pop culture would've varied. I'd like to be a child of the 70s.
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Post by kool on Jun 6, 2006 19:34:03 GMT -5
I wish I were a teen in the 70s so I could go through the disco phase. Chicks were slutty and wore hot pants then too, not the baggy shit and rags Madonna made fashionable in the 80s.
80s music was awesome though, apart from a few awkward hair metal moments and the birth of boy bands.
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 6, 2006 20:00:32 GMT -5
I was born in 1964, so I'm all too aware of what it was like in the eighties. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
Seriously, that's not a bad description.
I actually get a kick out of (once in a while) watching I Love the 80's. There are times when I wonder WTF they're smoking, but in general they hit a lot of the significant material pop culture. Except women' hair was even bigger than what they show ... as were the shoulder pads. Go watch Working Girl (w/Melanie Griffith, Harrison Ford, and Sigourney Weaver), that gets the (worst) of women's fashion about right.
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Post by kool on Jun 6, 2006 20:21:42 GMT -5
You're talking about the classy women of the 80s Ken, the older 'working girls'. I'm talking about the tramps in high school. That's what I remember about 80s womens fashion. It was all about bloody Madonna. That bitch is responsible for a whole generation of opinionated sluts. At least in the 70s they were dumb and knew when to shut up.  For the guys, it depended on what music you listened to. You had to the pop fans who had the George Michael/Simon LeBon hair-do and the hair metal fans who went for the Bon Jovi look. Both required a ton of hairspray and a lot of blow-drying. As for the clothes, the [guy] pop fans wore baggy pants and those wretched kung-fu slippers. Like the ones Duran Duran wore in the Rio video. The 'metal' fans wore stretch jeans a couple of sizes too small that went right up their ass/testicles. A look that looked much better on women. |
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Post by Ayinger on Jun 6, 2006 22:11:14 GMT -5
I'd like to be a child of the 70s. The 70's were a freakin' blast! Wouldn't have missed them/trade them for the world. |
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Post by Proud on Jun 7, 2006 0:25:05 GMT -5
As much as people bash 80s pop, it couldn't have possibly been worse than this decade.
I'll take technically bad but amusing/entertaining over flat out technically bad any day.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 7, 2006 17:49:30 GMT -5
Ever wonder how the decade would have been different if Mike Jackson had been assasintated instead of John Lennon?
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 7, 2006 18:08:40 GMT -5
Eighties pop really wasn't that bad ... nowhere near as bad as what's been played on the radio for the last seven or eight years.
If Lennon had lived ... all signs are that he would've continued to make increasingly boring MOR rock. The Beatles would have done a "hell freezes over tour" around 1987 or so, and made an album that would've been met with raves from the MSM critics but really wouldn't have been that good. The Beatles legacy would have been diminished, and everyone would acknowledge today that Townshend was greater than Lennon, and that the Who were the best British band of the sixties. The Beatles would make another record, then break up again, with all four going into actual retirement.
Michael Jackson, tragically gunned down following his landmark Off the Wall album would be remembered as a giant of American soul and dance music. A cult emerges around MJ, and the theory that he was killed by a white conspiracy intent on keeping a black man from becoming the dominant figure in pop music galvanizes this new movement. MJ becomes a martyr on a par with Malcolm X, and a symbol of black power. As a result, race relations in the US rapidly detoriate and there is widespread rioting throughout major US cities in the middle eighties.
Yep, things would have been a lot different if Michael Jackson had been murdered in 1980 instead of John Lennon.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 7, 2006 19:06:09 GMT -5
If Lennon had lived ... all signs are that he would've continued to make increasingly boring MOR rock. The Beatles would have done a "hell freezes over tour" around 1987 or so, and made an album that would've been met with raves from the MSM critics but really wouldn't have been that good. The Beatles legacy would have been diminished, and everyone would acknowledge today that Townshend was greater than Lennon, and that the Who were the best British band of the sixties. The Beatles would make another record, then break up again, with all four going into actual retirement. Michael Jackson, tragically gunned down following his landmark Off the Wall album would be remembered as a giant of American soul and dance music. A cult emerges around MJ, and the theory that he was killed by a white conspiracy intent on keeping a black man from becoming the dominant figure in pop music galvanizes this new movement. MJ becomes a martyr on a par with Malcolm X, and a symbol of black power. As a result, race relations in the US rapidly detoriate and there is widespread rioting throughout major US cities in the middle eighties. Yep, things would have been a lot different if Michael Jackson had been murdered in 1980 instead of John Lennon.  That was a pretty great response. I dont think any of that would have actually happened, but it was an enjoyable moment. One thing we know that would have been different is that Mike Jackson wouldnt have been able to buy up all of the Beatles back catalog and use the songs to try and sell jogging shoes with... |
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Post by Proud on Jun 7, 2006 19:29:31 GMT -5
That was quite the entertaining and thought-out "What if?".
When it comes to modern bands and modern radio, I'd love to know if the record labels are as much to blame as people say they are, if ClearChannel or whatever radio giant's currently around is still worth pointing the finger at, or if it's a collective apathy toward music and life itself by not just recent artists but by society as a whole. *shrugs* Am I taking this too far?
This theory, in a nutshell-- It isn't that modern (mainstream) bands aren't capable of making great music: "Anyone can play guitar." The problem is that nobody cares, possibly because the well's run dry and/or people just aren't as interested in the creation of fresh songs as they used to be.
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Post by kool on Jun 7, 2006 19:41:04 GMT -5
Eighties pop really wasn't that bad ... nowhere near as bad as what's been played on the radio for the last seven or eight years. I'd dare say the last 15 years. Rock music was pretty good in the 90s [even though a large chunk of it was Nirvana/Pearl Jam-wannabe depressing garbage], put as far as pop music is concerned, the 80s shit all over the 90s. I can think of countless memorable 80s hits that are still nice little tunes to listen to every now and again. I can't say the same about the 90s though. |
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Post by kool on Jun 7, 2006 19:44:30 GMT -5
btw Ken, that Lennon-Wacko Jacko post was hilarious! Ah, if only... I do agree about your predictions about Lennon. The same would've happened with all 60s/70s rock stars. Had they lived, they [obviously] would've cleaned up their act and turned into MOR crap artists. Even Hendrix and Morrison would've turned into total pussies.. |
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 7, 2006 20:29:23 GMT -5
btw Ken, that Lennon-Wacko Jacko post was hilarious! Ah, if only... I do agree about your predictions about Lennon. The same would've happened with all 60s/70s rock stars. Had they lived, they [obviously] would've cleaned up their act and turned into MOR crap artists. Even Hendrix and Morrison would've turned into total pussies.. I dont know, theres artists like Neil Young and Chuck Berry who havent becoem pussies. I think Lennon would have been different. He certainly wouldnt have sold out ot the degree of a lameass Mick jaggar thing-a-ma-jobie... |
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That was a pretty great response. I dont think any of that would have actually happened, but it was an enjoyable moment. One thing we know that would have been different is that Mike Jackson wouldnt have been able to buy up all of the Beatles back catalog and use the songs to try and sell jogging shoes with...