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Post by Fuzznuts on Jun 30, 2006 13:03:47 GMT -5
What's this farmer/factory town you grew up in, PEW? Just curious.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 30, 2006 13:36:55 GMT -5
Here's what I said: apolitical for the most part unlike Punk
For the most part. I am well aware of overt political acts like The Pop Group, The Slits, and Gang of Four. What part of "for the most part" do you not understand? There were a lot of post punk bands though who's lyrical content was apolitical unlike the political topics that they discussed in most Punk songs. Reynolds pretty much describes this in the opening introduction of the book. It's not like I was claiming that they were apolitical people or anything. Again, you keep skimming the book before actually reading it. Honestly, the only thing you are looking for here is to be contrary, so here, I will solve the problem for you.
Done and Done. I'm not willing to have this discussion with you anymore.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 30, 2006 16:00:34 GMT -5
I'm not willing to have this discussion with you anymore. Why? Because you don't know what you're talking about? That's no reason to leave a discussion, is it? What's this farmer/factory town you grew up in, PEW? Just curious. Pekin, Illinois. It's about 15 minutes downriver from Peoria (where Richard Pryor grew up) which means we got all of the pollution that peoria's plants dumped into the river... It was also home of Golden Voice studios where such class act bands as Head East, Dan Fogleberg(hometown boy) and yes that prog rock classic Styx recorded Gold records. A few other facts about Pekin. Laurie fromt he Partridge family was born there. So was the kid from The Shining. Also Pekin made a blimp on the national radar in the late 70s when the High School team was pressured to change its name from the Pekin Chinks to the Pekin Dragons. The Chink Rink (local roller skating rink) was also forced to change its name... Back to Reynolds. One of the Holes in his definition of postpunk is that some of the bands he is calling postpunk were actually together before the 1976 Zero Hour that he says punk began. Devo for instance. Reynolds does try to circumvent this by saying: " Devo were impatient to get to the future. The seventies had been a write-off, merely the sixties sagging into decadence. Devo yearned to be the first band on the block making eighties music. Like Pere Ube, they went beyond punk before punk even properly existed...Devo saw themselves as a 'postmodernist protest band'" |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 30, 2006 16:07:29 GMT -5
Nice bait and it's going to sort of work. The first signs of mental retardation is repeating what others say to you. I would hardly classify me as someone who doesn't know anything on the subject. The reason that I don't want to discuss it with you anymore you nimrod is that you are going to formulate your opinions as fact regardless of the truth.
Like Kenny Rodgers says, you gotta know when to fold them.
I'm going to say this and for the first time with really meaning it: I'm too good to carry on this ridiculous conversation. For one, it's just a label, what really matters are the bands and the music.
Bye.
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Post by Thorngrub on Jun 30, 2006 16:26:59 GMT -5
I'm not willing to have this discussion with you anymore. Why? Because you don't know what you're talking about? That's no reason to leave a discussion, is it? pew - - seriously man, I've read all the posts on this dumbass thread, and not only does skvor know exactly wtf he's talkin about, especially when it comes to this subject matter, but I think it's safe to say YOU don't know wtf you're talkin about, especially when it comes to this subject. give it a rest w/the insipid questions man. |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 30, 2006 16:43:09 GMT -5
Bravo, Thorn. We should make out. It would get Pew and his homophobic rockjism out of this room.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 30, 2006 16:49:25 GMT -5
Why? Because you don't know what you're talking about? That's no reason to leave a discussion, is it? pew - - seriously man, I've read all the posts on this dumbass thread, and not only does skvor know exactly wtf he's talkin about, especially when it comes to this subject matter, but I think it's safe to say YOU don't know wtf you're talkin about, especially when it comes to this subject. give it a rest w/the insipid questions man. I dont think he does. he's contradicted himself on numerous occasions. Obviously I know you like him more than me, but is that any reason to let your judgemetn be clouded on this issue? My basic reason for starting this thread is to figure out what pospunk is, and in fact if it even really exists. Skvoereeky's definition that postpunk is anything that came after punk and was influenced by punk really doesnt hold up. There needs to be a direct correlation, there needs to be specifics. From reading Reynolds book he has addressed some of these specifics, but I still see very little evidence that the music made in America by so-called Pustpunk bands would not have existed if Punk had never existed. What I'm looking for is that special ingredient that defines Postpunk, and I still havent found what I'm looking for... |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 30, 2006 16:53:14 GMT -5
I NEVER SAID THAT IT EXPLICITLY ENCOMPASSED ALL MUSIC AFTER PUNK!!!!!!!!! EVER!!!!!!EVER!!!!! EVER!!!!! YOU DIPSHIT!!!!!!!!
And another thing, you only starting touting this "he doesn't know what he's talking about" whenever I called you out on your shit about not reading the book. Anyone can sit there and pick a page, quote a couple of sentences and claim to have read the book. You're full of shit and you know it. You're getting ignored from now on. I've had it.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 30, 2006 16:55:32 GMT -5
I NEVER SAID THAT IT EXPLICITLY ENCOMPASSED ALL MUSIC AFTER PUNK!!!!!!!!! EVER!!!!!!EVER!!!!! EVER!!!!! YOU DIPSHIT!!!!!!!! And another thing, you only starting touting this "he doesn't know what he's talking about" whenever I called you out on your shit about not reading the book. Anyone can sit there and pick a page, quote a couple of sentences and claim to have read the book. You're full of shit and you know it. You're getting ignored from now on. I've had it. I said "Skvoereeky's definition that postpunk is anything that came after punk and was influenced by punk really doesnt hold up." This was your basic defintion wasn't it? |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 30, 2006 16:56:16 GMT -5
So here's what I'm saying: I'm specifically saying that you are a special person. and. not. in. the. good. way.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 30, 2006 16:56:39 GMT -5
I NEVER SAID THAT IT EXPLICITLY ENCOMPASSED ALL MUSIC AFTER PUNK!!!!!!!!! EVER!!!!!!EVER!!!!! EVER!!!!! YOU DIPSHIT!!!!!!!! And another thing, you only starting touting this "he doesn't know what he's talking about" whenever I called you out on your shit about not reading the book. Anyone can sit there and pick a page, quote a couple of sentences and claim to have read the book. You're full of shit and you know it. You're getting ignored from now on. I've had it. I said "Skvoereeky's definition that postpunk is anything that came after punk and was influenced by punk really doesnt hold up." This was your basic defintion wasn't it? No. |
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 30, 2006 17:01:03 GMT -5
I like how, once Skvor commented on PEW's misspellings of his name, PEW has gone out of his way to find a new incorrect spelling with each subsequent post. What a lame troll.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 30, 2006 17:03:59 GMT -5
Yeah, well, this seems to be expected. Your name is Rocky, dude, can't you pull some Sly Stone punches on this dude?
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 30, 2006 17:04:24 GMT -5
He definitely is getting the attention he craves. It's like I fed a gremlin chicken after midnight.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 30, 2006 17:07:00 GMT -5
I said "Skvoereeky's definition that postpunk is anything that came after punk and was influenced by punk really doesnt hold up." This was your basic defintion wasn't it? No. Do I need to go back and review the tape? This IS the definition of Postpunk that you gave. If you want to revise that definiton, then that's fine. I'm not here to play Gotcha! I'm looking for real ideas of what postpunk is. The definiton you gave does not hold up. If you have soemthing more to add to your definition, I would love to hear it. |
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