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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 24, 2006 20:37:03 GMT -5
Don't forget that Ten was actually released (and gathering dust on shelves) before Nevermind came out. PJ owed their shot on MTV and radio to Nirvana smashing things up with Smells Like Teen Spirit. Without Nirvana kicking open the door, who knows if PJ or RHCP or any of the other bands who came out of the woodwork in '92 and '93 would ever have gotten played on the radio ...
Nirvana were ground zero for the nineties. The rest of the decade was either in emulation or reaction to them.
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on Oct 24, 2006 20:40:17 GMT -5
So its agreed then, Nirvana.
Seems a shame only 3 of us voted for them...though telling. Every non-Nirvana voter: you are in the midst of terrifying genius here. Kenny H, DED - let us continue this at our next Mensa meeting.
Who voted for Sonic Youth?! You deserve a spanking. They're were middle aged & having babies in the 90s.
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Post by upinkzeppelin2 on Oct 24, 2006 22:18:39 GMT -5
That was Glen, if I remember right. I actually like their 90s output better than their 80s stuff, Dirty being their best album and Dirty Boots being their best song.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 24, 2006 22:48:26 GMT -5
Agreed, I am actually very happy with their 90s stuff. Also, middle aged and with kids, they still rocked harder, smarter, and greater than most bands of the time 20 years their junior. Give me a "Bull in the Heather" pregnant Kim Gordon over any of those stinky flannel shirts any day of the week. I was a huge Nirvana nut back in the day but after their initial explosions it was Fugazi first, Sonic Youth second, and Nirvana tied with the Breeders for third.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Oct 25, 2006 6:55:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I've seen you mention Whale Music quite a few times. I think I'll start with that one and get to the Hip later. 5 stars always grabs my attention. Btw, your rating or some prominent publication? Or both? Five stars is my rating but more or less both. Chart magazine, one of the bigger Canadian music magazines ("big" being a highly relative concept for any type of magazine in this country) runs a wide ranging poll of music biz folk (musicians, industry people & critics) every four or five years called the 50 Greatest Canadian Albums of All Time. They've run it three times with Whale Music placing Top 10 each time. It was also named the "most essential" Canadian album of all time in a CBC radio poll in 2003. I'm it may be very hard to find down there but I'll be curious to hear your reaction if you do get it. A very Canadian record, though I wouldn't say self-consciously so. Sonically very rich, warm, three-dimensional and rocking. I think you'd like it.
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Post by Fuzznuts on Oct 25, 2006 8:24:21 GMT -5
Gotta throw in another vote for Pavement. Respeck.
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Post by luke on Oct 25, 2006 8:39:39 GMT -5
Nirvana's the most important, the most influential, the most iconic...but not the "best."
Melon (Sorry, dude, I used to know this smelly fat artsy redhead who always wore this homemade Pink Zeppelin shirt, I can't call you that man)- I'd say the Chili Peppers didn't have a chance of getting any votes because they released more goodies in the 80s than the 90s.
It's that Talking Heads problem, where it sucks that you can't really vote for them as best of the 70s or 80s, but they were better than just about anyone in the 70s or 80s.
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With the exception of Daydream Nation, I pretty much prefer SY's 90s output all around.
It's kinda ironic that Pavement is tied with the Pumpkins up there.
It's hard for me to rank these bands because of overkill. Nirvana and AIC would prolly round out a top three (but only because there's no STP up there.) Pavement, Sonic Youth, and Ween are right there, though.
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 25, 2006 9:03:41 GMT -5
Yeah, Nirvana is the most obvious choice for who "owned" the 90s.... But "best" -? *there is no such thing* ;b
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Post by Proud on Oct 25, 2006 9:08:42 GMT -5
It'd be much easier to argue for them if they made more than 2 albums in the 90s (unless you want to throw in Incesticide and Unplugged simply because they're beautiful, tender, and have perfect bell-shaped bodies).
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Post by Galactus on Oct 25, 2006 9:30:53 GMT -5
It'd be much easier to argue for them if they made more than 2 albums in the 90s (unless you want to throw in Incesticide and Unplugged simply because they're beautiful, tender, and have perfect bell-shaped bodies). Yeah, but those two albums are Die Hard. They changed everything.
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 25, 2006 9:44:09 GMT -5
It'd be much easier to argue for them if they made more than 2 albums in the 90s (unless you want to throw in Incesticide and Unplugged simply because they're beautiful, tender, and have perfect bell-shaped bodies). Here is a thought provoking point (I hadn't considered). I *knew* there was some reason I didn't just automatically pick Nirvana. Two albums!
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Post by Paul on Oct 25, 2006 10:34:31 GMT -5
Yep, good point Thorn and ManBearProud....Nirvana was the most important group of the 1990's, but w/ only 2 proper albums, are they the best? Personally I think Vitalogy, No Code, and Yield rival just about anything Nirvana put out....Not to mention PJ had the two headed monster w/ Ten and Vs......Nirvana may be more significant, but better, I don't know. Still though, when I think of the 1990's music scene, I can't help but to think Nirvana first.
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 25, 2006 10:48:10 GMT -5
All I'm gunna say is, those who claim the correct answer is PEARL JAM are onto something...
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 25, 2006 10:57:54 GMT -5
I'm going to be the prick in the room again with the dissenting opinion that Pearl Jam just suck, respectable politics or not they just suck.
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 25, 2006 11:29:42 GMT -5
That doesn't make you a "prick" skvorry; it merely makes you "wrong". ;b
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