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Post by frag on Dec 8, 2006 15:30:35 GMT -5
Yeah I dig all that.
But maybe she's just lazy.
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Post by Kensterberg on Dec 8, 2006 15:33:10 GMT -5
Yeah I dig all that. But maybe she's just lazy. I think she just heard Robert Altman's phrase "be adequate" and took it to heart. Meg White: the ultimate drummer for the Dilbert generation. Speaking of which, who doesn't love Wally? |
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Post by frag on Dec 8, 2006 15:40:59 GMT -5
the Beave
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Post by Galactus on Dec 8, 2006 15:51:52 GMT -5
Mo? As in Mo Tucker? Better then Bonham? That's a fuckin' larf. You're hatred for the Zep is unnatural. Meg White is a better drummer then Mo Tucker. I'm thinking Animal might get my vote too. If only Mitchell had the excuse being a puppet for playing like a puppet...and well Fragtone #4 is just a bad drummer. I'm not really even sure carpal tunnel Henley really even counts as a drummer...where's Phil Collins anyway?
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Post by frag on Dec 8, 2006 15:55:59 GMT -5
According to the poll, Fragtone 4 is better than all but Animal.
So there.
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Post by kmc on Dec 8, 2006 15:56:12 GMT -5
Honestly, Bonham is the best one of the bunch up there.
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Post by rockysigman on Dec 8, 2006 16:06:55 GMT -5
Should've known that Animal would be automatic.
And Moe Tucker rules. So you know, fuck you or something, ded.
But yeah, like Ken I subscribe to the "play what the song needs" school of drumming. Bonham was a good drummer though. I like guys who hit the skins hard. But I'd rather have someone who doesn't play enough than one who plays too much.
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Post by phil on Dec 8, 2006 16:07:28 GMT -5
Here's the first "Best Drummers" list I stumbled on ...
Cut your teeth on it ...
Jaki Liebezeit (Can)
Charlie Watts (Rolling Stones)
Bill Bruford (Yes)
Zig Modeliste (Meters)
Klaus Dinger (Neu)
Keith Moon (Who)
Tim Alexander (Primus)
Damon Che Fitzgerald (Don Caballero)
Anton Fier (Golden Palominos)
William Calhoun (Living Colour)
Stanley Demeski )Feelies)
Yuval Gabay (Soul Coughing)
Mike Shrieve (Santana)
Doug Scharin (Codeine)
Charlie Ondras (Unsane)
Maureen Tucker (Velvet Underground)
Charles Hayward (This Heat)
Ginger Baker (Cream)
Dave Kerman (5UU's)
Neil Peart (Rush)
Stomu Yamashta
Vincent Signorelli (Swans)
Jon Hiseman (Colosseum)
Ted Epstein (Blind Idiot God)
Martin Atkins (Killing Joke, Public Image, Pigface)
Fred Maher (Material)
Jim Sclavunos (Lydia Lunch, Sonic Youth)
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Post by phil on Dec 8, 2006 16:12:25 GMT -5
where's Phil Collins anyway?No. 32 on that other list ... 1. Neil Peart (Rush) 2. John Bonham* (Led Zeppelin) 3. Carl Palmer (ELP) 4. Keith Moon* (The Who) 5. Terry Bozzio (Frank Zappa) 6. Ginger Baker (Cream) 7. Hal Blaine (Session man) 8. Danny Carey (Tool) 9. Bill Bruford (Yes, King Crimson) 10. Earl Palmer (Session man) 11. Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater) 12. Dave Lombardo (Slayer) 13. Benny Benjamin* (Funk Brothers) 14. Ian Paice (Deep Purple) 15. Carmine Appice (Vanilla Fudge) 16. Tommy Aldridge (Ozzy Osbourne) 17. Stewart Copeland (The Police) 18. Bernard Purdie (Session) 19. Vinnie Colaiuta (Zappa) 20. Jeff Porcaro* (Toto) 21. Bill Ward (Black Sabbath) 22. David Garabaldi (Tower Of Power) 23. Ainsley Dunbar (Jeff Beck) 24. Nicko McBrain (Iron Maiden) 25. Mike Shrieve (Santana) 26. Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix) 27. Steve Smith (Journey) 28. Al Jackson* (The MGs) 29. Matt Cameron (Soundgarden) 30. Tim Alexander (Primus) 31. Jim Keltner (Session man) 32. Phil Collins (Genesis) The next 68 are listed here ... www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_drummers.html
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Post by Kensterberg on Dec 8, 2006 16:16:36 GMT -5
Topper was hired b/c of how hard he could wack the drums. The fact that he was a great player was just a bonus.
Seriously, Topper's one of the few drummers where I could just listen to him play behind the vocals, drop out bass and guitar completely, and still really enjoy the songs. He perfectly fleshed out the band's musical material, kept time like a metronome, and allowed the band to grow far beyond the basic punk format. There are few other drummers out there who would've been up to the journey from Safe European Home (where his tom-tom fills are as ferocious as anything Moon ever laid down) to the ska-inflected Wrong Em Boyo and beyond to the spaced out reggae, jazz and dub of Sandinista! And Topper's work on Straight to Hell is IMHO one of the great percussive performances in rock.
Bonham just doesn't do anything for me ... Moon did everything Bonham did, only first and better. Charlie Watts was great, too. In fact, I'll take Charlie over the guys from Cream, Primus, or the Experience. Charlie can play jazz (he's cut jazz albums in the past), but he knows what to leave out in order to play rock or blues.
But it's hard to argue with Animal ... or Fragtone 4 (though Animal has better hair).
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Post by Kensterberg on Dec 8, 2006 16:18:33 GMT -5
Stewart Copeland was a fucking great drummer! And he put up with those other two assholes in the Police, which says a lot about his strength of character.  |
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Post by rockysigman on Dec 8, 2006 16:21:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Topper deserves a spot near the top of the list for "Straight to Hell" alone. Brilliant.
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Post by Galactus on Dec 8, 2006 16:24:42 GMT -5
Moon Did everything Bonham did...
This is just not true, Bonzo and Moon had completely styles. Bonham redefined rock drumming and while it's true people are still trying to figure out how to play like Moon he was never the standard and some ways Bonham still is. I admit to never wanting to listen to one of his drum solos again but in the context of the songs Bonham and JPJ were the best back bone in the history of rock, he played complicated stuff at times but I don't think you could say he overplayed.
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Post by frag on Dec 8, 2006 16:24:51 GMT -5
Moon or Weinberg, really.
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Post by Galactus on Dec 8, 2006 16:25:32 GMT -5
Stewart Copeland was a fucking great drummer! And he put up with those other two assholes in the Police, which says a lot about his strength of character. Well, he's an asshole too, but fuck yeah, a killer drummer. |
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