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Post by wayved on Mar 31, 2007 23:56:22 GMT -5
DRI, NAPALM DEATHS first album, HELLNATION, NAKED RAYGUN.....GERMS!
For humor--CIRCLE JERKS, S.O.D. (that shit aint metal!)
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Post by loudaab on Apr 1, 2007 8:38:15 GMT -5
I've always been a bit suspicious of the late 70s/early 80s LA punk scene; Black Flag, Fear, The Weirdos, Suicidal Tendencies, The Screamers, Napalm Death, Redd Krosss, The Germs, X, etc never really did much for me. It seems like the fact that they were all from that scene in LA is more of a factor in their notoriety than their actual music. Being part of a scene is a bit of a double-edged sword. I was around the punk scene in Chicago during the tail end of it and there was a real highschool meathead mentality to it. Lots of violence and name calling from condescending rich (at least compared to my upbringin) suburban teens who thought that wearing a mohawk and ripping your t-shirt meant you were a punk(no offence Ken). Ofcourse I was never a part of the LA scene of '77, but based on the music alone, it doesnt do much to inspire me.
I do however appreciate the Dead Kennedys(SanFrancisco) and the Wipers(Portland) who are associated with that scene as well as the Circle Jerks and the Descendents.
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Post by Mary on Apr 1, 2007 9:28:20 GMT -5
I've always been a bit suspicious of the late 70s/early 80s LA punk scene; Black Flag, Fear, The Weirdos, Suicidal Tendencies, The Screamers, Napalm Death, Redd Krosss, The Germs, X, etc never really did much for me. It seems like the fact that they were all from that scene in LA is more of a factor in their notoriety than their actual music. napalm death are from england. |
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Post by JACkory on Apr 1, 2007 11:17:02 GMT -5
Upon further reflection, and as much as I hate to agree with PEW, I've decided that Sonic Youth probably can't be considered "punk rock", even though their roots are steeped in it. They indeed fall into the category of "art rock", with some of their more "out there" stuff even approaching Avant-Garde ("The Diamond Sea", for instance). I wonder if Handsome Dick Manitoba & the Dictators were "punk rock"? Or even the MC5? I'm so out of touch with the punk rock scene of the last 20 years that I probably should not be participating in this discussion. But what the hell... X was punk. Devo was new wave. Just my opinion. GG Allin was as punk as it gets...possibly even TOO punk.  The Psychedelic Furs, on their first album, skirted the edges of "punk". By the time Talk Talk Talk came out they had blended a strong pop sensibility with the rawer punk elements and succeeded in creating their own infectuous sound. To the extent that the pop sensibility replaced the punk they kind of went downhill, IMO...though there a few good songs on Mirror Moves, Midnight to Midnight and the albums that came later, they weren't quite as powerful as the first 3 records. But then again, I'm wasting time going on about the Furs, as I recall that they were from Great Britain. AARGH! |
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Post by JACkory on Apr 1, 2007 11:21:08 GMT -5
I do however appreciate the Dead Kennedys(SanFrancisco) and the Wipers(Portland) who are associated with that scene as well as the Circle Jerks and the Descendents. I've owned a couple of records by the Wipers and they sure didn't sound like punk rock to me. Excellent music, no doubt, but not punk. |
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Post by Proud on Apr 1, 2007 11:28:27 GMT -5
A few of my favorites that haven't already been covered: Adolescents, Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers, and depending on however the hell punk is defined, Mudhoney, Love Battery, and... NIRVANA.
Under the Big Black Sun belongs in every respectable listener's collection. If I was to make a list of the finest five or ten recommendations I've received from RS, that'd be sitting pretty near the top.
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Post by loudaab on Apr 1, 2007 12:00:00 GMT -5
Upon further reflection, and as much as I hate to agree with PEW, I've decided that Sonic Youth probably can't be considered "punk rock", even though their roots are steeped in it. They indeed fall into the category of "art rock", with some of their more "out there" stuff even approaching Avant-Garde ("The Diamond Sea", for instance). I wonder if Handsome Dick Manitoba & the Dictators were "punk rock"? Or even the MC5? I'm so out of touch with the punk rock scene of the last 20 years that I probably should not be participating in this discussion. But what the hell... X was punk. Devo was new wave. Just my opinion. GG Allin was as punk as it gets...possibly even TOO punk. Yeah I was trying to come up with a list of the 10 most punkiest punks of all-time and gg was one of the first to come to mind. Some of the others are Richard Hell, Sid Vicious, Darby Crash, Stiv Bators, Dee Dee Ramone. And then I was considering Jello Biafra and Ian MacKaye and Joe Strummer (and perhaps even Johnny Rotten) but I personally see the "Political Punk" thing as being from a much different place in terms of the motivations--be they emotional or intellectual or what not. I've always been a bit suspicious of the late 70s/early 80s LA punk scene; Black Flag, Fear, The Weirdos, Suicidal Tendencies, The Screamers, Napalm Death, Redd Krosss, The Germs, X, etc never really did much for me. It seems like the fact that they were all from that scene in LA is more of a factor in their notoriety than their actual music. napalm death are from england. Yowza--I was thinking of Napalm Beach...my bad... |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Apr 2, 2007 9:12:22 GMT -5
We've already had this argument. Go jerk off to the image of your blog on your corporate computer. Fuckass.
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Post by loudaab on Apr 2, 2007 11:26:19 GMT -5
We've already had this argument. Go jerk off to the image of your blog on your corporate computer. Fuckass. So are you saying that anything that has already been discussed should never be talked about again? That's kind of close-minded, dont you think? In order to evolve it is important to revisit subject matters from time to time because the things change. That's just simple reality, Skvor... |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Apr 2, 2007 11:44:02 GMT -5
Fuck. You. Gently. With. A. Chainsaw.
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Post by Thorngrub on Apr 2, 2007 11:54:12 GMT -5
THE RAMONES
THE STOOGES
THE DEAD KENNEDYS
BLACK FLAG
BAD BRAINS
THE MISFITS
MINOR THREAT
NAUSEA
THE ACCUSED
X
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Post by Thorngrub on Apr 2, 2007 11:57:36 GMT -5
LYDIA LUNCH
THE SLITS (UK)
THE NUNS
THE GERMS
THE DAMNED (UK)
THE CRAMPS
D.O.A.
NEW YORK DOLLS
CIRCLE JERKS
THE DESCENDENTS
FUGAZI
THE DICKIES
MINUTEMEN
DISCHARGE
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES
PATTI SMITH
JIM CARROLL
CRIME
SADONATION
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Post by Mary on Apr 2, 2007 12:00:57 GMT -5
LYDIA LUNCH THE SLITS THE NUNS THE GERMS THE DAMNED THE CRAMPS D.O.A. NEW YORK DOLLS CIRCLE JERKS THE DESCENDENTS FUGAZI THE DICKIES MINUTEMEN DISCHARGE SUICIDAL TENDENCIES ... ah yeah - now we're gettin' to the REAL SHIT! (although the slits are british...) gotta start bringing in some of the new york noise peeps. i know they're only arguably punk cause they're arty and weird but personally i think TEENAGE JESUS AND THE JERKS, DNA, MARS, LIQUID LIQUID, THE CONTORTIONS, and the BUSH TETRAS deserve a little shout-out here. also my hometown hardcore punk heroes - THE PROLETARIAT - holy shit that was a different time. gone but not forgotten... |
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Post by Thorngrub on Apr 2, 2007 12:01:52 GMT -5
oops, I forgot the Slits were from the UK, they just came naturally after Lydia Lunch . . .
Oh yeah there's also. . .
PATTI SMITH
JIM CARROLL
CRIME
SADONATION
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Post by Mary on Apr 2, 2007 12:03:01 GMT -5
also since i live in Memphis now:
HIS HERO IS GONE
TRAGEDY
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