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Post by Matheus on Nov 23, 2007 18:24:32 GMT -5
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Post by Matheus on Nov 23, 2007 19:01:07 GMT -5
Madonna's Greatest Video Accomplishments (in order of appearance):
Part Two
13. Frozen
Madonna directed by Chris Cunningham famous for his Aphex Twin work. He was to appear later in the Reinvention Tour with one of his shorts, Flex, used during Frozen.
14. Ray of Light
What is there to say about this video??? Everyone knows it. Life goes by so quickly while Madonna dances around. It's a nice metaphor.
15. Nothing Really Matters
This was actually put on MTV as the worst music video Madonna has ever made. I love it, but they probably hate it because Madonna doesn't look like someone you'd like to fuck during it. It's inspired by Memoirs of a Geisha, and she's got her kimono goin' on.
16. Music
A total mockery of rap videos featuring Ali G (aka Borat). I love the parts in the strip club, a woman objectifying women? Not really. Madonna's prego in the vid, so they had to use some cartoon work.
17. Don't Tell Me
I think this is the video where Madonna looks her very best in a pair of jeans and a flannel. There's some line dancing. It's fun.
18. What It Feels Like For A Girl
An amazing video using the Above and Beyond remix of the song directed by Guy Ritchie (Madonna's hubby). It features Madonna doing things that girls typically aren't associated with. My favorite part is when she shoots policemen with a squirtgun. This video was banned by MTV and VH1.
19. Die Another Day
Madonna's Kabbalah video. The fight between the good and evil inside of yourself while the world kicks you around. Amazing imagery and metaphors.
20. American Life
This was pulled. I've seen the original. Very violent. MTV and VH1 would not air it. Other than that, go to YouTube and watch it yourself. (It was pulled because it was anti-war during that period where if you didn't agree with the Republican blow shit up ideal you were a traitor).
21. Hollywood
Madonna said of the song: "This song is like a metaphor for me. It's the city of dreams and superficiality. It's the place where you forget about the really interesting things in life. In Hollywood, you can lose your memory and your vision of the future. You can lose everything because you can lose yourself." The video features Madonna receiving botox shots, now a symbol for the superficiality of the celebrity set. The video was based around recreations of the photographs of Guy Bourdin.
22. Hung Up
Madonna in a pink leotard. Enough said. The part in the club is one of the most amazing sexually drenched moments in a Madonna video, IMO. It's not overt, and made for the dance floor.
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Post by Matheus on Dec 13, 2007 16:10:12 GMT -5
The poll is moot now... not that it mattered. Not only do male pop stars get into the hall of fame, females do too.  |
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Post by Matheus on Jan 10, 2008 18:02:48 GMT -5
Madonna pic of the week.  |
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Post by rocknroller on Feb 22, 2008 19:22:30 GMT -5
Madonna as she would look today without all the cosmetic surgeries...  |
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Post by rocknroller on Feb 22, 2008 21:13:17 GMT -5
Have you heard any of the new songs from the upcoming album Mat? Any links to hear them? Looking forward to the new album although I hope the flavor isn't too hip-hoppy. Loathe hip-hop and most rap.
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Post by Matheus on Feb 23, 2008 16:13:48 GMT -5
Pat, I don't think Madonna's had any plastic surgery outside of injections of fat and that face freezing junk... and this is true according to most surgeons. On the new album... expect it to be urban. Timbaland, Danja, Justin Timberlake, Pharrell and Madonna are the producers. I have heard snippets of the first single "4 Minutes To Save The World" (featuring Justin Timberlake), and I have heard "The Beat Goes On"... the version without Kanye West. I have also heard Candy Shop. I like what I've heard thus far, but I love Madonna, Timbaland, and Timberlake. Pharrell's work with NERD and some other things are quite amazing as well. Not to mention, I like Danja's work on Britney's Blackout. The Beat Goes On www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSjR1TLRAGY4 Minutes To Save The World www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poa2IRHTjQo&feature=relatedCandy Shop www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MavxhwbEt4&feature=relatedI can't promise they will work. They get removed pretty quickly. I should mention they leaked way before they were finished, and Candy Shop and The Beat Goes On will probably considerably different. The 4 Minutes To Save The World clip has Timbaland all over it. He played it in Philly. BTW, you're welcome... I'm quite resourceful. |
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Post by rocknroller on Feb 23, 2008 16:46:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the links Mat. I really like Candy Shop and The Beat Goes On. Both songs are sweet. Couldn't really hear 4 minutes 2 save the world so will have to wait 'til I actually hear the song in full. From what I heard I wasn't too impressed. Would release Candy Shop or Beat Goes On ahead of Save The World.
From what I did hear from the songs the album sounds like it will be accepted and enjoyed by the mainstream and will be a successful album for Madonna.
Now back to steamcleaning the carpets in the house. The Poodles try to stay housebroken. Alas...
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Post by Matheus on Feb 23, 2008 16:49:16 GMT -5
It won't be as good as Confessions...
And I disagree, 4 Minutes sounds bangin'
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Post by rocknroller on Feb 27, 2008 12:24:16 GMT -5
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Post by Matheus on Feb 29, 2008 9:23:10 GMT -5
Final tracklisting for "Hard Candy," Madonna's forthcoming studio album (and her last for Warner Brothers). I have listed collaborators for all songs where information was available and have noted name changes for the final tracklisting.
1. Candy Store (name change) (Pharrell)
2. 4 Minutes (name change) (Timbaland/Timberlake/Danja) duet with Timberlake
3. Give it 2 Me (Pharrell)
4. Heartbeat (Pharrell)
5. Miles Away (Timbaland/Timberlake/Danja)
6. She's Not Me (Pharrell)
7. Incredible (?)
8. Beat Goes On (featuring Kanye West) (Pharrell)
9. Dance Tonight (Timbaland/Timberlake/Danja) duet with Timberlake
10. Spanish Lesson (Pharrell)
11. Devil (name change, formerly Even the Devil Wouldn't Recognize You) (Timba/Timber/Danja)
12. Voices (Timbaland/Timberlake[/Danja?])
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Post by Matheus on Mar 1, 2008 14:16:43 GMT -5
One of the first-ever mentions of Madonna in a national publication came in March 1984, when the new wave magazine Trouser Press ran a feature on DJ Jellybean Benitez, who was then remixing tracks for the singer. The article notes Benitez was “engaged to remix three tracks by disco/pop/rock crossover hopeful Madonna.”
Madonna may not be a “hopeful” anymore, but with her March 10 induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inching closer, people are again arguing about what kind of music she makes. In a recent msnbc.com commentary, Michael Ventre claimed Madonna’s music wasn’t rock and her induction would “undermine the credibility” of the Rock Hall. But that’s not a feeling shared by all rock fans. Madonna might not be your standard rock performer, but she’s rock-oriented enough to justify getting inducted (we’ll get to the topic of the Hall’s “credibility” later).
Contrary to Ventre’s assertions, Madonna’s early career trajectory did, in fact, follow that of rock bands like the Beatles. She started out playing New York clubs in 1979 as the drummer for the rock band Breakfast Club, before moving to lead vocals. In 1980 and 1981, she fronted the dance rock band Emmy. You don’t play rock for three years without it having some influence.
After Madonna signed with Sire Records, she continued working with Breakfast Club keyboardist Pat Leonard and Emmy drummer Stephen Bray to write some of her biggest hits, including “Into the Groove,” “Express Yourself,” “Cherish” and “Like a Prayer.” None are rock per se, but all use rock as a jumping off point. Audible evidence of Madonna’s rock roots can be found on the collection of early demos “Pre-Madonna.”
Madonna’s vocals are the key to her rock roots. Pop vocalists usually sing songs “straight,” but Madonna employs subtext, irony, aggression and all sorts of vocal idiosyncrasies in the ways John Lennon and Bob Dylan did. The ambiguity she brought to songs like “Like a Virgin” and “Holiday” never lets you know whether they were supposed to be happy, sad, satirical or all of the above. Even Madonna’s early “Minnie Mouse singing” style can be traced back to rock: the Beatles made use of similar sped-up vocals starting in 1966.
When Madonna hit the big time, her shock-your-mama presentation incited outrage like it was Elvis’ hip shakin’ heyday all over again. This caused Baby Boomers to dismiss her music as lightweight in much the same way the generation before them dismissed early rock and rollers. But in retrospect, there’s little that’s lightweight in the social commentary of “Material Girl” or “Like a Virgin,” or in the personal issues Madonna tackles in “Live to Tell,” “Keep it Together” and countless other tunes.
A corporate affair
Now let’s look at the Rock Hall. And let’s admit that it’s largely a high-level corporate soiree for record industry business people and their top-earning employees and associates.
To find out why this is, look to the Hall’s governing “foundation” (a word, by the way, that should never be used in conjunction with the phrase “rock and roll”). In 2001, Fox News’ Roger Friedman reported on how foundation director Suzan Evans was looking to get big names inducted so the Hall could sell tickets to the dinner. That explains why Eric Clapton, George Harrison and Paul McCartney have been inducted multiple times as band members and solo acts.
As Ventre correctly noted, the Rock Hall has also gone from inducting rock pioneers (Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly) to celebrating major label acts that have sold lots of product. Michael Jackson is a member. So are Billy Joel, James Taylor and the Bee Gees. Yet influential rockers like Iggy Pop, Wanda Jackson and Joan Jett are left out in the cold. Hardcore punk and progressive rock are unrepresented.
This is because the induction process is influenced by Rolling Stone magazine founder Jann Wenner, who helped conceive the Rock Hall. Last year there were accusations of Wenner engaging in vote fixing in order to ensure rappers Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five an induction.
So any questions of Madonna’s ruining the Rock Hall’s “credibility” are beside the point. What credibility is there, really? Critic Joel Selvin has pointed out that selections are also based on the personal tastes of a bunch of East Coast industry types. More and more, these people have given us a Rock Hall filled with critically correct “artists,” who thrill Baby Boomers but bore everyone else. Just in case anyone was wondering why Black Flag hasn’t been inducted yet, there’s your answer.
Risqué business
Considering all of this, Madonna’s induction is refreshing. Unlike some of the above names, her induction (and exhibit) should bring a sense of excitement to the Rock Hall. Will she say something crazy in her speech? Wonder what her performance will be like?
It’s this spirit that rock and rollers — not pop stars — brought to mainstream culture back in the day. Madonna’ persona has been called calculated, but if you do a little research, you’ll find there was also calculation in the way the Rolling Stones and countless other “scandalous” bands were presented to the public. The difference is there was less behind-the-scenes media documentation of celebrities back then.
Having the nerve to title an album “Like a Virgin” in the conservative early 1980s is the type of thing rockers do, not pop artists. A lot of Madonna’s career moves seem, in retrospect, logical or inevitable, but at the time they were anything but. By mapping out her work on her own terms (another rocker characteristic) Madonna often risked commercial and artistic disaster. That’s likely a big reason Madonna has served as a touchstone for so many performers that followed her and it has gotten her songs covered by artists from John Wesley Harding to Sonic Youth to Tori Amos.
It’s ironic that Madonna’s Rock Hall induction stands a better chance of causing a commotion than would appearances by any numbers of bona fide rockers. But then, that’s the sort of thing that made the one-time “disco/pop/rock crossover” a definitive rock star.
source: Tony Sclafani, MSNBC
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Post by rocknroller on Mar 7, 2008 19:28:55 GMT -5
After all these years...still spreadin' those legs. Although I must say she's lookin' mighty good for 50...  |
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Post by strat-0 on Mar 8, 2008 4:11:26 GMT -5
Except she doesn't even look like Madonna anymore. Can't even recognize her. I miss "Spanish Lullabye."
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Post by rocknroller on Mar 8, 2008 17:18:10 GMT -5
Except she doesn't even look like Madonna anymore. Can't even recognize her. I miss "Spanish Lullabye." Mean "Spanish Eyes" Strato? From "Like A Prayer?" I am going to watch M be inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame Monday night. VH1 will show the ceremony live at 8:30 p.m. eastern time. |
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