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Post by Rit on Jul 23, 2004 13:10:16 GMT -5
Time to resurrect Woodrow Wilson from his crypt.
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Post by stratman19 on Jul 23, 2004 13:21:08 GMT -5
Nah, Woodrow Wilson was a pussy.
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Post by Rit on Jul 23, 2004 13:33:41 GMT -5
someone tell me why the Repub symbol is an elephant, an animal neither indigenous to the US nor, indeed, to the entire continent.
(kinda seems treasonous) ;D
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Post by stratman19 on Jul 23, 2004 15:02:11 GMT -5
The origin of the
Republican Elephant
by William Safire
This symbol of the party was born in the imagination of cartoonist Thomas Nast and first appeared in Harper's Weekly on November 7, 1874.
An 1860 issue of Railsplitter and an 1872 cartoon in Harper's Weekly connected elephants with Republicans, but it was Nast who provided the party with its symbol.
Oddly, two unconnected events led to the birth of the Republican Elephant. James Gordon Bennett's New York Herald raised the cry of "Caesarism" in connection with the possibility of a thirdterm try for President Ulysses S. Grant. The issue was taken up by the Democratic politicians in 1874, halfway through Grant's second term and just before the midterm elections, and helped disaffect Republican voters.
While the illustrated journals were depicting Grant wearing a crown, the Herald involved itself in another circulation-builder in an entirely different, nonpolitical area. This was the Central Park Menagerie Scare of 1874, a delightful hoax perpetrated by the Herald. They ran a story, totally untrue, that the animals in the zoo had broken loose and were roaming the wilds of New York's Central Park in search of prey.
Cartoonist Thomas Nast took the two examples of the Herald enterprise and put them together in a cartoon for Harper's Weekly. He showed an ass (symbolizing the Herald) wearing a lion's skin (the scary prospect of Caesarism) frightening away the animals in the forest (Central Park). The caption quoted a familiar fable: "An ass having put on a lion's skin roamed about in the forest and amused himself by frightening all the foolish animals he met within his wanderings."
One of the foolish animals in the cartoon was an elephant, representing the Republican vote - not the party, the Republican vote - which was being frightened away from its normal ties by the phony scare of Caesarism. In a subsequent cartoon on November 21, 1874, after the election in which the Republicans did badly, Nast followed up the idea by showing the elephant in a trap, illustrating the way the Republican vote had been decoyed from its normal allegiance. Other cartoonists picked up the symbol, and the elephant soon ceased to be the vote and became the party itself: the jackass, now referred to as the donkey, made a natural transition from representing the Herald to representing the Democratic party that had frightened the elephant.
From William Safire's New Language of Politics, Revised edition, Collier Books, New York, 1972
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Post by Proud on Jul 23, 2004 17:36:34 GMT -5
sorry, no dead people can be included. ... especially dead people who su-- *stops before he inadvertantly starts a flame war*
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Post by stratman19 on Jul 23, 2004 22:05:51 GMT -5
Sorry Proud, too late. If you want a flame war, you got one. My suggestions suck? According to who...you? Well fuck you. Perhaps you simply should have stipulated that all suggestions meet with your approval?
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Post by Proud on Jul 24, 2004 4:39:21 GMT -5
with all due respect, do NOT tell me to fuck myself. that's something i will not stand for, whether it's me or anyone else. also, you called someone else's suggestion a "pussy". congratulations, that makes you a militant hypocrite. plus, for all you know, i could've been talking about ritalin's pick and not yours. dice happened to land on your choices. *cough*
thank you for keeping rsjunior a clean and safe place, mister!
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Post by rockkid on Jul 26, 2004 21:14:09 GMT -5
Come on now who are you boys trying to kid? We all know Howard Stern is the right man for the job.
Ms. Quivers as first lady of course.
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Post by stratman19 on Jul 27, 2004 17:46:39 GMT -5
Interesting choices Rock!  And things are cool with Proud and me...I apologized to him on the main CE board. |
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Post by Nepenthe on Sept 17, 2004 19:55:46 GMT -5
someone tell me why the Repub symbol is an elephant, an animal neither indigenous to the US nor, indeed, to the entire continent. (kinda seems treasonous) ;D It sure beats a donkey. LOL |
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Post by pissin2 on Sept 20, 2004 14:09:25 GMT -5
Greg from Bad Religion would probably make a good president.
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 20, 2004 16:13:46 GMT -5
HUNTER S. THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT
We need a GONZO in the Oval Office.
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Reservoir
Struggling Artist
They all get them out for the boys in the band
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Post by Reservoir on Jan 5, 2005 11:33:58 GMT -5
thorn, as soon as i saw this topic i was going to post that...i cant believe you beat me to it. nice choice...freak power!
hows this then: keith richards for VP. screw the birth thing, if a non US national can be governor, no reason why not the head honcho.
seriously, that would be obscene. i'd up sticks and move stateside in a heartbeat if those two got in. if anyone knows where i can get one of those "thompson for sheriff" gonzo posters LET ME KNOW.
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Post by strawman on Jan 5, 2005 18:23:43 GMT -5
...after the last couple of election fiascos, I'd have to suppose that if George W Bush and an intellectually challenged baboon were to stand for President....the people of USA would unfortunately make the wrong decision.....
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Post by patlogi on May 10, 2005 0:00:41 GMT -5
It wouldn't be J Lo...............ssssssssssssss...
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