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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 22, 2004 11:34:41 GMT -5
The Conservatives have very likely blown the election and Brison's going to win your seat for the Liberals anyway, so why vote for a party whose policies you evidently disagree with?
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Post by Meursault on Jun 22, 2004 11:50:52 GMT -5
I just figured the test was faulty, still tryin to understand how i managed to have the Conservative bring in more then the liberals.
I'm not quite sure if Brison will win the seat or not, i've seen a lot more Conservative signs up then Liberal.
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Post by Thorngrub on Jun 22, 2004 14:45:30 GMT -5
Like I said.
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Post by Meursault on Jun 22, 2004 15:00:04 GMT -5
Stop being so vague, I can't read between the lines.  |
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Post by riley on Jun 23, 2004 4:26:42 GMT -5
Shane if you vote Conservative I'm never going to see Slayer with you again.  |
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 23, 2004 5:25:06 GMT -5
Anybody catch Harper with Peter Mansbridge last night? So pretty pointed questioning from the audience, it was good to see.
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Post by Meursault on Jun 23, 2004 8:58:42 GMT -5
I'd cut off my own penis before voting conservative, unless the leaders of all the other parties were Nazis, and still....suppose it doesn't matter who you vote for then.  |
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Post by riley on Jun 23, 2004 9:04:06 GMT -5
Anybody catch Harper with Peter Mansbridge last night? So pretty pointed questioning from the audience, it was good to see. Saw the ad, but missed it Doc. What sort of stuff were they hitting him with? |
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 23, 2004 9:45:36 GMT -5
I didn’t catch all of it, Riley, but it ran the gamut and it was very direct – Iraq, social and economic policy, issues concerning the disabled (nice to see) even the fact that the Conservative Party is running a general election campaign without ever having had a founding policy convention (which means that even more than is generally the case with political parties, their promises are worthless). I’m sure Harper considered it a hostile audience. Not that they were abusive, they weren’t, but they were very pointed.
One guy got up and basically accused Harper of having a hidden social agenda. Again, he was polite, even stammered a bit out of nervousness but he made sure he got "hidden agenda" in his question – twice. Harper looked at the guy like he wanted to throttle him and couldn’t resist the urge to fire a veiled little shot at the guy at the end of his answer.
Peter Mansbridge and Harper got into a lengthy and kind of testy exchange on whether Harper would have sent Canadian troops to Iraq if he had been Prime Minister. He really pressed him on it and Harper was IMO, surprisingly slippery and even weaselling in his answer. I mean, we all know the answer but instead of out-and-out saying "yes" it was (I’m paraphrasing) "people shouldn’t be surprised to hear I was in favour of supporting our allies" and what to me is a disingenuous argument that we didn’t have the resources to put troops on the ground anyway (we did – Chrétien sent them to Afghanistan instead).
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Post by Meursault on Jun 23, 2004 9:50:11 GMT -5
Didn't the US promise Afghanistan some relief?
They ever actually get around to that?
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Post by riley on Jun 23, 2004 13:17:38 GMT -5
Sounds like more walking the line to avoid showcasing the realities of his party, while occasionally having it sneak out.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 24, 2004 4:30:54 GMT -5
Qualms about the old 'vote Liberal to avoid the Conservatives' squeeze play hurting the NDP aside, this is a hoot: stopharper.org/ |
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Post by phil on Jun 24, 2004 4:55:34 GMT -5
YES ... !!![/size]
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 24, 2004 6:18:03 GMT -5
You’d think the Liberals would be pretty pleased with that, eh? Judging by their latest ad, though, they seem to think that despite people jumping up and down all over Harper, voters still need a little extra motivation to pull them into the Liberal camp:  |
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 25, 2004 7:54:21 GMT -5
I don’t know if I’d be brave enough to attempt this for all 308 ridings but I thought I’d take a shot at predicting the outcome in the Atlantic constituencies in the election on Monday. Going out on a limb on a couple of these:
Newfoundland
Avalon: John Efford, Liberal
Bonavista – Exploits: Scott Simms, Liberal (gain)
Humber - St. Barbe - Baie Verte: Gerry Byrne, Liberal
Labrador: Lawrence O’Brien, Liberal
Random- Burin - St. George's: Father Des McGrath, NDP (gain)
St. John's North: Walter Noel, Liberal (gain)
St. John's South: Loyola Hearn, Conservative
Nova Scotia
Cape Breton – Canso: Roger Cuzner, Liberal
Central Nova: Peter MacKay, Conservative
Dartmouth - Cole Harbour: Susan McAlpine-Gillis, NDP
Halifax: Alexa McDonough, NDP
Halifax West: Bill Carr, NDP (gain)
Kings – Hants: Scott Brison, Liberal (gain)
North Nova: Bill Casey, Conservative
Sackville – Eastern Shore: Peter Stoffer, NDP
South Shore – St. Margaret's: Gerald Keddy, Conservative
Sydney – Victoria: Mark Eyking, Liberal
West Nova: Jon Carey, Conservative (gain)
P.E.I.
Cardigan: Lawrence MacAulay, Liberal
Charlottetown: Dody Crane, NDP (gain)
Egmont: Joe McGuire, Liberal
Malpeque: Wayne Easter, Liberal
New Brunswick
Acadie-Bathurst: Yvon Godin, NDP
Beauséjour: Dominic LeBlanc, Liberal
Fredericton: Kent Fox, Conservative (gain)
Fundy: John Herron, Liberal (gain)
Madawaska – Restigouche: Jean-Claude D’Amours, Liberal
Miramichi: Charles Hubbard, Liberal
Moncton – Riverview – Dieppe: Claudette Bradshaw, Liberal
Saint John: Paul Zed, Liberal (gain)
St. Croix – Belleisle: Greg Thompson, Conservative
Tobique – Mactaquac: Andy Savoy, Liberal
Total:
Liberals: 18
New Democrats: 7
Conservatives: 7
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