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Post by kats on Sept 4, 2004 5:54:00 GMT -5
eeep , i think i just accidentally voted for bush, i pressed submit vote...and then the board justy came up again. jesus, what a blunder.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Sept 4, 2004 7:24:30 GMT -5
eeep , i think i just accidentally voted for bush, i pressed submit vote...and then the board justy came up again. jesus, what a blunder. Tsk!. Lefties moaning that the ballot papers are too confusing as usual.  |
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Post by chrisfan on Sept 4, 2004 7:36:42 GMT -5
eh. when i was younger, i hated politics with a burning passion. i considered them the social divider, the evil of society. but now i'm learned that they hold our democracy together, they give our people voices, and they... frankly, they let freedom ring. nothing is as splendid, as subtle in this society as the right of self. democrats, republicans, greens, independents, whatever you are... you're allowed to be who you are. just look at us, for example. when it comes to the issues we're like a couple of drunk hillbillies in a ghost town tavern. but when it comes to basic politics and other aspects of life, we get along just fine. but this doesn't mean that politics are an evil. it doesn't split us apart. it enhances those other aspects, that other reality. if it wasn't for american politics, i wouldn't be typing this right now. ... okay, i might, but it could be in german. I hear critiques like this a lot, especially from several of my good friends. But IMO, it's not POLITICS that can cause a great divide in people, but the PEOPLE themselves. There are some people who can discuss politics, express their views, listen to others, and recognize fully that it's OPINIONS they're dealing with, and nothing personal. Then, there are other people who nearly villify anyone who does not think as they do. To my way of thinking, THESE are the people who cause the divide in political discussions. They're so intent on destroying anyone who does not think as they do that they refuse to listen, and gain any sort of understanding. |
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Post by Proud on Sept 4, 2004 8:28:58 GMT -5
that's probably true. not just that way with politics, too. i remember teachers i've had in the past who were so insistant that everybody in the world should have a love for their subject matter. wtf, you don't have a burning passion for saving the kentucky wildland three-nosed hornfrog? beh. www.electoral-vote.com is a fun site. |
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Post by maarts on Sept 4, 2004 8:42:57 GMT -5
For me too it's the lack of respect being shown to people with an opposite opinion than your own.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Sept 4, 2004 13:23:49 GMT -5
All very touchy feely! Yeah, you should respect the beliefs of people to an extent, even where they don't agree with yours.
But it's not unreasonable to find some beliefs so objectionable that not only do you disagree with them, but you might have a legitimate disregard for the person who holds those beliefs. To take an extreme example, neo-Nazis.
I have a sliding scale. I can respect conservative beliefs, and I have conservative/right-wing friends. But I couldn't possibly date a Tory. I don't think that makes me intolerant. It's simply a question of seeking compatibility on ideals, because those things are important to me.
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Post by RocDoc on Sept 4, 2004 15:27:45 GMT -5
I'm tallied...and I even put MYself in the right corrrect column, unlike some others...whu, there's Floridians in Oz? ;D
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Post by kats on Sept 5, 2004 3:07:53 GMT -5
lesson learnt- don't try and vote when you're drunk! or left wing, whichever  where's click, i need to be called a terrorist or something... jllm, have to agree. i only have on right wing friend, and he's not right wing by ce standards. believes in abortion, is not opposed to homosexuality, but votes for the conservative party...and he is the most conversative person i have met who isn't a politician. as for dating them? well, i see no problem with him. i mean, yes, he votes for a party i down-to-the-bone disagree with, but it's no big sore point between us. no, wait. i have met a conservative-conversative. but he was an idiot who believes in the systematic destruction of a race of people. i don't think either side would like to be affiliated with him. but ce-standard right wing? no way. nothing wrong with being right wing, but i don't think i could date someone with those opinions. i just couldn't. and maarts, i disagree with aussie press not showing that kerry is different than bush. put down the daily telegraph for a second. there is so so so so so much anti-bush sentiment in this country. the same goes for the entire country, at the moment, unfortunately. as one article put it; "kerry: he's not bush". we haven't heard a lot about domestic policy, because that is of little interest to us, unless it involves human rights violations or something that is extremely topical, ie:/abortion. |
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Post by kats on Sept 5, 2004 3:11:21 GMT -5
i am NOT good with anarchists. especially in social situations. i went to high school with this girl and met up with her and a few other people for coffee a few weeks ago.she was talking about rent or something and i just blurt out: rachel, do you HONESTLY believe it's ever going to happen??? ever?  and then everyone darts around looks of embarrassment and unease and i'm not invited to such things again. i'll never be cool; i'm not a vegan lesbian socialist anarchist. damn! |
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Post by chrisfan on Sept 5, 2004 12:35:30 GMT -5
A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.
She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."
"I am," replied the man. "How did you know?" "Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to do with your information, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help to me."
The man smiled and responded, "You must be a Democrat."
"I am," replied the balloonist. "How did you know?"
"Well," said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you're going.
You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but, somehow, now it's my fault."
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Post by stratman19 on Sept 5, 2004 12:47:12 GMT -5
Bada bing! ;D
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Post by melon1 on Sept 5, 2004 19:23:23 GMT -5
Chrisfan,
Surely you read that when I posted it at least twice back at RS. Anyway, I got it via e-mail. How bout you?
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Post by chrisfan on Sept 6, 2004 11:20:52 GMT -5
I got it via e-mail too. When I got it, I knew I'd heard it before, but it still cracks me up.
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Post by Proud on Sept 6, 2004 16:13:44 GMT -5
today's polls show bush ahead by 7 points, 52-45.
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 6, 2004 23:42:18 GMT -5
We're still missing a lot of voters locally here. 18 votes? C'mon, what - do we have to send out a mass message?
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where's click, i need to be called a terrorist or something...
