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Post by RocDoc on Apr 11, 2011 18:06:42 GMT -5
just like your idiotic fucked-in-the-head trolling over at rolling stone helped to draw droves and droves of more 'normal' people in. portraying multiple characters for weeks on end. so funny, ha-ha-ha.
...and THAT sure helped steer the moderators toward the goal of throwing up their hands in disgust and closing the whole fucking place down...right jac?
you weren't the only one, nor were you the worst one. you SURE fanned those flames, so MORE fucking crazies showed up when they saw that anything goes...you're SO far from any sort of an innocent party, bud.
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Post by RocDoc on Apr 11, 2011 18:16:00 GMT -5
... Yeah, let's steer the conversation, when I was kind of agreeing with you on a couple of posts back there, to complete non-sensical blame gaming. How boring. I didn't run anyone off, that gives me way too much credit that is totally unnecessary. I didn't actively block their IP and I certainly didn't physically restrain them from actually coming here. Pot. Calling. Kettle. Black. Just post your articles about Russia and stop crying like a Bright Eyes record. You're getting way too emo over this shit. where was it you were agreeing with me i'd like to know...it's NOT where you think i say that i disagree with obama's decision to go military on gaddafi, is it? because i DON'T disagree with it. my whole point has been to say that his decisions are easily AS difficult as the ones george bush was forced to make, and for which the cocksucking liberals decided to castrate him. so now their 'hope', their fucking 'savior' is doing the exact same thing when put in a similar position and the vast majority of liberals should fucking understand the irony which obama's handling of that crisis, brings to his presidency vis-a-vis gw bush's. ESPECIALLY when i feel 98% of his voters weren't voting for him, but just for some photogenic, slick-spoken figurehead who's (MOST and foremost) simply NOT george bush. |
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Post by JACkory on Apr 11, 2011 18:36:55 GMT -5
just like your idiotic fucked-in-the-head trolling over at rolling stone helped to draw droves and droves of more 'normal' people in. portraying multiple characters for weeks on end. so funny, ha-ha-ha. ...and THAT sure helped steer the moderators toward the goal of throwing up their hands in disgust and closing the whole fucking place down...right jac? you weren't the only one, nor were you the worst one. you SURE fanned those flames, so MORE fucking crazies showed up when they saw that anything goes...you're SO far from any sort of an innocent party, bud. What the fuck? I wasn't talking about you. |
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Post by RocDoc on Apr 11, 2011 20:31:49 GMT -5
I'm still a little angry with him for running everyone off of these boards. This place used to be a real "happening" hang-out, now it's a barren wasteland and all because he could dish it out but couldn't take it. There's pretty much only one soap box around here anymore... not me, eh? to whom are you referring then? |
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Post by skvorecky on Apr 12, 2011 11:04:42 GMT -5
... Yeah, let's steer the conversation, when I was kind of agreeing with you on a couple of posts back there, to complete non-sensical blame gaming. How boring. I didn't run anyone off, that gives me way too much credit that is totally unnecessary. I didn't actively block their IP and I certainly didn't physically restrain them from actually coming here. Pot. Calling. Kettle. Black. Just post your articles about Russia and stop crying like a Bright Eyes record. You're getting way too emo over this shit. where was it you were agreeing with me i'd like to know...it's NOT where you think i say that i disagree with obama's decision to go military on gaddafi, is it? because i DON'T disagree with it. my whole point has been to say that his decisions are easily AS difficult as the ones george bush was forced to make, and for which the cocksucking liberals decided to castrate him. so now their 'hope', their fucking 'savior' is doing the exact same thing when put in a similar position and the vast majority of liberals should fucking understand the irony which obama's handling of that crisis, brings to his presidency vis-a-vis gw bush's. ESPECIALLY when i feel 98% of his voters weren't voting for him, but just for some photogenic, slick-spoken figurehead who's (MOST and foremost) simply NOT george bush. I'm agreeing with you on your criticism with the voting public on Obama. I'm not a fan of the guy and I have always been on the fence as far as my support for Obama goes. I still think the decision to go into Libya is not a good one at all but I respect and understand your position and the support for Obama's decision to intervene. |
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Post by JACkory on Apr 12, 2011 20:48:00 GMT -5
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Post by JACkory on Apr 28, 2011 11:04:55 GMT -5
Doc...sorry I haven't been keeping up on this board, but are/were you a "birther"?
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Post by RocDoc on Apr 29, 2011 10:00:32 GMT -5
ah, the convenient term to lump everyone with even the momentary temerity to ask the question...the 'stupid' and the 'reasonable' all in one convenient pot for ya's.
in the heat of the campaign with the front runner being some guy come outta nowhere, no experience, SIMPLY running on 'i'm NOT george bush' ('and by god, i'm black!') which had every fucking simpleton cream their jeans...it was a completely valid question, yeah.
he then hemmed, hawed and pshawed enough to make everyone wonder.
all the BS 'aw shucks, aw pshaw, c'mon don't make me answer that, look at me, i'm an american can't you SEE?'
why the fuck NOT doubt him THEN unless you're head over heels in love with what he's now representing to you?
guess what, and it's a stretch, but he had nothing for me so i wondered...
but that ship HAS sailed...and i'll deludedly answer as though you might really want an answer, jac, but it's been at the point where THAT didn't concern me in the least anymore.
is that ok for you then?
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Post by JACkory on Apr 29, 2011 13:12:21 GMT -5
Jeez, a simple "yes" or "no" would have sufficed.
The way I see it, it's highly doubtful that the FBI, CIA, blah blah blah would have given him the thoroughly investigated green light to serve as president if they had not seen a legal birth certificate. It's kind of presumptuous that a faction of uptight right wing conservatives would assume that he didn't have one and, maybe even more disturbing, that the powers-that-be wouldn't have checked it all out.
So, reading through all of your tongue tied and twisted gobbledegook, can I assume that you are a reformed birther?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Post by RocDoc on Apr 30, 2011 0:00:59 GMT -5
yes jac, the FBI, CIA, blah blah blah are the trustworthy arbiters to you here. suddenly.
duly appointed as well for this small detail-oriented job.
by whom?
if they do just as great a job as they did ferreting out 16 egyptian hijackers, you'd be happy, eh?
you got my answer, moron.
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Post by JACkory on Apr 30, 2011 13:58:36 GMT -5
Moron? A little testy this morning, aren't you?
So what you are saying is that you are a birther? Okay. I can handle that. To each his own.
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Post by RocDoc on Apr 30, 2011 20:32:37 GMT -5
after i see several people on fb equate 'birthers' and 'birth-ism' with racism, idiocy and the like, i want NO part of that word, even though i see that word being bandied about in a way that it's simple whatever denigrating construct 'they' wish to make it.
trump out of principle made a point of once-and-for-all finally chasing it down, bravo, obama produced it, so fucking WHAT?
just call it the new 'phat' the new 'dope'...whoa, deep.
not really, not at all.
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this aggregation of behavior is bigger (reprint is courtesy of jack simons who C&P'd it at FB); via the london telegraph:
No Obama wedding invite
- from the London Daily Telegraph editor
From the LONDON DAILY TELEGRAPH : The American people can now more readily "understand" why the Obama's were omitted from the guest list to the Royal wedding in April! This is a very sobering article.
Our handling of relationships with the Britons over the oil spill didn't help either.
From The London Daily Telegraph Editor On Foreign Relations...
Quote: "Let me be clear: I'm not normally in favor of boycotts, and I love the American people. I holiday in their country regularly, and hate the tedious snobby sneers against the United States . But the American people chose to elect an idiot who seems hell bent on insulting their allies, and something must be done to stop Obama's reckless foreign policy, before he does the dirty on his allies on every issue."
One of the most poorly kept secrets in Washington is President Obama's animosity toward Great Britain , presumably because of what he regards as its sins while ruling Kenya (1895-1963). One of Barack Hussein Obama's first acts as president was to return to Britain a bust of Winston Churchill that had graced the Oval Office since 9/11.
He followed this up by denying Prime Minister Gordon Brown, on his first state visit, the usual joint press conference with flags. The president was "too tired" to grant the leader of America 's closest ally a proper welcome, his aides told British journalists. Mr. Obama followed this up with cheesy gifts for Mr. Brown and the Queen. Columnist Ian Martin described his behavior as "rudeness personified."
There was more rudeness in store for Mr. Brown at the opening session of the United Nations in September. "The prime minister was forced to dash through the kitchens of the UN in New York to secure five minutes of face time with President Obama after five requests for a sit down meeting were rejected by the White House", said London Telegraph columnist David Hughes. Mr. Obama's "churlishness is unforgivable", Mr. Hughes said.
The administration went beyond snubs and slights last week when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton endorsed the demand of Argentine President Cristina Kirchner, a Hugo Chavez ally, for mediation of Argentina 's specious claim to the Falkland Islands , a British dependency since 1833. The people who live in the Falklands, who speak English, want nothing to do with Argentina . When, in 1982, an earlier Argentine dictatorship tried to seize the Falklands by force, the British -- with strong support from President Ronald Reagan -- expelled them.
"It is truly shocking that Barack Obama has decided to disregard our shared history," wrote Telegraph columnist Toby Young. "Does Britain 's friendship really mean so little to him?" One could ask, does the friendship of anyone in the entire world mean anything to him?
"I recently asked several senior administration officials, separately, to name a foreign leader with whom Barack Obama has forged a strong personal relationship during his first year in office," wrote Jackson Diehl, deputy editorial page editor of the Washington Post, on Monday. "A lot of hemming and hawing ensued."
One official named French President Nicolas Sarkozy, but his contempt for Mr. Obama is an open secret.
Another named German Chancellor Angela Merkel. But, said Mr. Diehl, " Merkel too has been conspicuously cool toward Obama."
Mr. Obama certainly doesn't care about the Poles and Czechs, whom he has betrayed on missile defense.
Honduras and Israel also can attest that he's been an unreliable ally and an unfaithful friend.
Ironically, our relations with both Israel and the Palestinian Authority have never been worse.
Russia has offered nothing in exchange for Mr.Obama's abandonment of missile defense.
Russia and China won't support serious sanctions on Iran .
Syria's support for terrorism has not diminished despite efforts to normalize diplomatic relations.
The reclusive military dictatorship that runs Burma has responded to our efforts at "engagement" by deepening its ties to North Korea .
And the Chinese make little effort to disguise their contempt for him.
For the first time in a long time, the President of the United States is actually distrusted by its allies and not in the least feared by its adversaries.
Nor is Mr. Obama now respected by the majority of Americans.
Understandably focused on the dismal economy and Mr. Obama's relentless efforts to nationalize and socialize health care, Americans apparently have yet to notice his dismal performance and lack of respect in the world community.
They soon will.
London Daily Telegraph editor -- Alex Singleton
[ Personal opinion... we're in sad state and people should learn that experience really does count for something and leaders of destructive terrorist countries and groups care NOTHING about your community organizing skills except as a source of humor in your ability to run a country ]
By: Ron Boat
whoevertf ron boat is....
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Post by Ayinger on May 1, 2011 9:08:08 GMT -5
Or about a split second Matt. I mean, it was also put out years ago that two Hawaiian newspapers had published birth announcements at the time. If those had been faked back in 1961, THAT would had taken some great forethought and a crystal ball!
Personally, I don't think the vast majority of so-called "birthers" truely deep down inside believed Obama was not born in America....rather that it was something that allowed more disarry to be stirred up with an eager media supplying a sturdy platform.
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Post by JACkory on May 1, 2011 16:00:54 GMT -5
That is an excellent point, Matt. I think I've heard it before, some time ago, but thanks for reminding me.
Doc, are you going to vote for Donald Trump? Oh, you've established that you don't like the word "birther" or what it has become twisted to mean. Yet I still have a sneaking suspicion that, indeed, you are a dyed in the wool birther. Do you think Obama got good grades on the strength of his race, too?
Goddamnit my back hurts.
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Post by JACkory on May 3, 2011 11:33:58 GMT -5
I have to wonder how many anti-Obama stalwarts will give the man credit for his role as Commander in Chief in bringing down bin Laden.
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