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Post by strat-0 on May 6, 2006 14:15:42 GMT -5
I agree, Mantis (we cross-posted).
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on May 7, 2006 22:13:29 GMT -5
No shit. Someone give Einstein a gold star. While I think its highly untasteful to create a public thread where the title is accusing someone of being mentally ill, my issue is more that you're offensive. Yeah. I thought that was clear. Who was it that started a thread once upon a time called "Shin is a Fascist"? Oh that's right, it doesn't matter because it was an obvious joke, just like the title of this thread is also a joke. I'm stunned this thing lasted 24 hours. The plan was for it to be deleted and we'd move on our merry way. But Chrisfan threw me a slider and kept it up, then the conversation organically swapped to turducken. Curses, foiled again. But you couldn't give two shits about that because I'm thinking you're just pissed your attempt to blame me for you randomly deleting your Neil account didn't work as well as you had hoped. It was a nice ploy, using that yarn as the backdrop. Perhaps if you weren't so disingenuous and phony I might have sent you a email expressing sorrow. It's for the best that I did not. So you can continue to try to egg me into some sort of fight again by insulting my sex life, of which you know pretty much nothing about (as if people base their lives around sex like you do anyway), and calling me "offensive" like you'd feel differently about me had I done a "Chrisfan Rocks!" thread, but I'm not really up for that again. I don't feel like getting jerked around and frankly you no longer have any currency with me anyway. So enjoy your newfound camaraderie with the Castaways crew. If you feel like coming back to Sedaka, let me know and I'll let you back in. Because how I feel about you is pretty much irrelevant, as stipulated in the rules, and you are, in fact, missed. But I won't leave the light on. Please don't even try to pretend for one second that you're not above petty insults. I've read your PMs to RocDoc, remember? So you can step down off your high horse before you get dizzy. I'm not blaming you for my deleting my account @ Sedaka. That was my own doing, for reasons which I have detailed to certain people - I'm not throwing that in anyone's face, so you can get over that. But it feels like, particularly after DED & Ken's respective 2 cents that while insulting and bitchy behaviour is tolerated from some of us, others are not permitted. Is this right? Maybe I just felt like being a hardcore bitch, being really smarmy & arrogant to you. Its kinda reminiscent of the way you talk to a LOT of people, here & over @ Sedaka. But its not cool when I do it? FWIW: my issue with this thread was NEVER that it was directed at Chrisfan. I thought that was quite obvious. I really couldn't care less if people are starting hateful threads about one another if it has nothing to do with me. Hence, my never taking issue with the 'give Melon shit' thread. This thread is unnecessary & stupid because its accusing someone of being insane. I don't give a red fuck how much tongue was in cheek during the creation of it. An 'I Hate Layla' thread wouldn't even bother me, b/c everyone's entitled to have that opinion. But if there were a 'Layla is Insane' thread, or any '____ is Insane' thread, I will take issue with it. More so when its created by someone I don't like, yeah.
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on May 7, 2006 22:36:28 GMT -5
Not just that, but it should be noted that this is just another drop in the bucket in the long running CE flame wars, of which Chrisfan is an open and willing contributor through sanctimonious, condescending and sometimes biting remarks. So shin made a thread, big deal. It's no different than anything else that happens in this place. NB: I believe Shin has made many a sanctimonious, condescending and sometimes biting remark also. So, just as he targets Chrisfan & RD, among others, I assume it won't be an issue if I choose to target him for harrassment in much the same way?
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Post by Galactus on May 7, 2006 23:49:21 GMT -5
But it feels like, particularly after DED & Ken's respective 2 cents that while insulting and bitchy behaviour is tolerated from some of us, others are not permitted. Is this right? Maybe I just felt like being a hardcore bitch, being really smarmy & arrogant to you. Its kinda reminiscent of the way you talk to a LOT of people, here & over @ Sedaka. But its not cool when I do it? I don't think I've ever pissed you off and I know I ain't got no beef with you. If you have any question about something I meant feel free to ask, but don't misquote me and use it for whatever the fuck you and shin got going on here. I want no part of it.
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on May 8, 2006 0:12:04 GMT -5
I haven't misquoted you anywhere. You'll notice I began my post with "it feels like" - b/c I'm simply stating what my view of the situation is. But if you'd prefer I directly question what you mean, I'm happy to oblige. I don't really get what the big deal is, CF has been called and has called others worse. So is it such a huge thing to make it a thread topic...(especially when you assume it's temperary)? You realise a big part of my having a go at Shin on this thread is because I don't like him? As I stated, I'd take issue with anyone creating threads where the title implies someone is insane, b/c that pisses me off. I've taken more issue with this one b/c the person who did it irritates me. I assume you got that, b/c you're a smart dude. So why go on about it not being a big deal? Do you question Shin's motives when he takes swings at people on CE for things that aren't really a big deal? Do you hold everyone to the same standard of behaviour? I actually don't. Some people I know are far nobler than I & I expect more out of them than I do others. What is the case here? Am I allowed to be insulting to someone & take issue with them on very petty matters simply out of dislike? Because thats what Shin does to certain people. Is it really a big deal to you if I do the same?
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Post by Galactus on May 8, 2006 1:00:09 GMT -5
I never implied what anyone should or shouldn't do, I only asked that I be left out of this fight.
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on May 8, 2006 1:09:50 GMT -5
I didn't say that you'd implied anything. I was questioning what you meant.
I don't see the same reaction in you when Shin acts like a dick, as I see when others act like dicks, myself included. The easy answer is "I'm backing my mate up". You didn't answer my questions. You don't really have to.
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on May 8, 2006 1:14:43 GMT -5
I wanted to address this also, b/c it stinks to high heaven of bullshit.
Perhaps if you weren't so disingenuous and phony I might have sent you a email expressing sorrow. It's for the best that I did not
I'm one of the least phony people you'll ever come across in your life b/c I don't pretend when it comes to my feelings for others, so you can stick that right up your ass. Furthermore, considering I deleted my Sedaka account back in March (ie many moons ago in internet time), I really doubt you ever intended to send me any kind of email, least of all a sorrowful one. That would require some semblance of sensitivity on your part & to me it was blindingly clear from your behaviour towards me in our last exchange over there that you possess very little of that when it comes to other people.
So lets cut the "I'm so sweet & kind" crapola, b/c I'm still privy to whats being said over there.
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on May 8, 2006 1:16:46 GMT -5
And to everyone else reading the tripe on this thread: my apologies.
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Post by Galactus on May 8, 2006 1:25:38 GMT -5
I didn't say that you'd implied anything. I was questioning what you meant. I don't see the same reaction in you when Shin acts like a dick, as I see when others act like dicks, myself included. The easy answer is "I'm backing my mate up". You didn't answer my questions. You don't really have to. I'm not sure what reaction you're talking about. I haven't addressed anything to you either except that I'd rather not be put in the middle of this thing. Most of your questions seemed rhetorical, sorry. No, I don't hold everyone to the same standard. You can be insulting to whomever you like, I don't think it's a big deal when shin does nor when you do it. Which is why I said I don't think it's big deal. You're the one making it a big deal and you're reasons are your own.
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Post by phil on May 8, 2006 10:34:22 GMT -5
And to everyone else reading the tripe on this thread: my apologies. Hmmm ... The Sedaka clique ... So! That is where all the bitchin' and fightin' went ... ?? Not fair ! !
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Post by kmc on May 8, 2006 15:49:12 GMT -5
Not just that, but it should be noted that this is just another drop in the bucket in the long running CE flame wars, of which Chrisfan is an open and willing contributor through sanctimonious, condescending and sometimes biting remarks. So shin made a thread, big deal. It's no different than anything else that happens in this place. NB: I believe Shin has made many a sanctimonious, condescending and sometimes biting remark also. So, just as he targets Chrisfan & RD, among others, I assume it won't be an issue if I choose to target him for harrassment in much the same way? Feel free. You know you're one of my favorite posters. I just think you have better things to do, 's all.
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Post by kmc on May 8, 2006 15:51:13 GMT -5
But then again, I am not privy to how you spend your time. Have fun.
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Post by shin on May 8, 2006 16:02:16 GMT -5
I'm one of the least phony people you'll ever come across in your life b/c I don't pretend when it comes to my feelings for others, so you can stick that right up your ass. Furthermore, considering I deleted my Sedaka account back in March (ie many moons ago in internet time), I really doubt you ever intended to send me any kind of email, least of all a sorrowful one. That would require some semblance of sensitivity on your part & to me it was blindingly clear from your behaviour towards me in our last exchange over there that you possess very little of that when it comes to other people. In the interests of maintaining my insistence of not taking this any further, I shall keep this as brief as possible: I lol'd at both points.
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Post by Thorngrub on May 9, 2006 11:43:50 GMT -5
& thoRny wept inside.
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