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Post by tuneschick on Jun 22, 2006 9:08:27 GMT -5
Wow. You guys get more charming every day. Not sure what happened to my promise to stop reading this thread. Shit. |
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Post by luke on Jun 22, 2006 9:17:25 GMT -5
oh god. *nausea ensues* so, anyone excited for "Fastfood Nation" to come out in theatres? anyone read the book? seriously, it's The Jungle all over.... Eh. It's no Animal Liberation, and it's certainly no Jungle, but it retreads some stuff quite nicely. I thought it should have focussed more on factory farms in general, as there are now thousands of morons who read the book who now boycott fast food but still buy factory farmed meat from grocery stores, which is complete hypocrisy. The labor stuff is real good, the food stuff is sorta misleading. |
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Post by riley on Jun 22, 2006 9:19:36 GMT -5
Wow. You guys get more charming every day. Not sure what happened to my promise to stop reading this thread. Shit. That passage was actually a test to see if in fact you had stopped reading.  |
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Post by tuneschick on Jun 22, 2006 9:22:34 GMT -5
I can't help it. The ham bomb keeps drawing me in.
Not to mention all the suaveness you guys exude. Very hot. I mean, 'meat curtains'? Who can resist?
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Post by luke on Jun 22, 2006 9:27:37 GMT -5
"Hey baby, how 'bout you come back to my place and let me play with your meat curtains?"
That one used to always work on them junior division girls.
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Post by riley on Jun 22, 2006 9:28:23 GMT -5
Yeah that's one of the classier euphemisms in my repertoire. I'm sure I picked it up in GQ.
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Post by Galactus on Jun 22, 2006 9:41:54 GMT -5
That what we always called them in med school.
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Post by luke on Jun 22, 2006 10:04:43 GMT -5
I'm really trying to restrain myself from a string of one liners about babies opening the meat curtains for their first grand entrance.
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Post by shin on Jun 22, 2006 12:29:38 GMT -5
Tunes, wouldn't you rather "meat curtains" than "meat Venetian blinds"? You know, the kind that have horizontal dividers, don't let light through, and that you can move your hand up and down and make go "ffffttttttt"
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Post by Paul on Jun 22, 2006 12:33:39 GMT -5
^^^^ On a side note, I've enjoyed our conversation I think this is the first time you and I have gone back and forth like this.... I enjoyed it too (even though it took me 24 hours to return to it - oops!) Look forward to hearing how it goes this weekend. Good luck! Last night I drank another bottle of wine (petite sirah) and didn't have any cigs....I was craving one, so I smoked a joint instead. Perhaps I can kick the habit once and for all! I'm on the verge, just not there yet... |
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Post by tuneschick on Jun 22, 2006 12:44:52 GMT -5
that you can move your hand up and down and make go "ffffttttttt" This cracked me up. Paul, sounds like you're already having more luck in kicking that particular habit than I ever did (granted, I'm the queen of anti-willpower.) That's awesome. |
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on Jun 26, 2006 4:20:07 GMT -5
In poverty stricken neighborhoods, it's not a matter of "the office job" or "I'm lazy." It's a matter of "I live on welfare, don't have a car, and the only places to eat within a mile are McDonald's and Church's Chicken." I think many people don't realize that a huge (ba dum dum) portion of the obese in America are poor people who have no health education and few means to really eat healthy. We should be reaching out to these areas. Bingo. have i told you recently how much i love you, luke? feel the love. Regarding bans on soda & candy in school - I don't necessarily support an all-out ban. Teachers should be able to bring cookies & candy for students on special occasions (I always bring my students doughnuts on the last day of class). But I definitely support banning soda & candy vending machines in public schools. Cheers, MThere are no supermarkets or grocery stores any closer to people living in poverty-stricken areas than there are fast food outlets? If thats the case...well, then thats an issue perhaps for town planners. I do find it hard to believe that its easier for some poeple to get to a fast food outlet than to a supermarket. for the record, I don't feel hatred towards massively overweight & obese people. I don't pity them either. I treat them like the adults they are. We shouldn't have to remove all fatty food temptation from society for the sake of a proportion of people. There IS healthy diet education out there. Watch twenty minutes of the Biggest Loser & any other reality show similar to it. And if your weight problems come down to the fact that you don't have a car & can only go to McDonalds, then learn to exercise. Its as simple as going for a walk every day. If you have two functional legs that can get you walking to McDonalds for lack of a car because you're so poor, surely those two legs can get you jogging home afterwards? Laziness is an ugly trait in people. |
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on Jun 26, 2006 4:24:42 GMT -5
I enjoyed it too (even though it took me 24 hours to return to it - oops!) Look forward to hearing how it goes this weekend. Good luck! Last night I drank another bottle of wine (petite sirah) and didn't have any cigs....I was craving one, so I smoked a joint instead. Perhaps I can kick the habit once and for all! I'm on the verge, just not there yet... The best way to kick one addiction is to replace it with another. I've been weed-free for almost 2 weeks now. I think its about that long, and thats the longest I've gone without in years. To combat the cravings, I just drink more wine. Only theres nothing to replace drinking with. But good luck on remaining ciggie-free! |
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Post by Mary on Jun 26, 2006 9:06:43 GMT -5
There are no supermarkets or grocery stores any closer to people living in poverty-stricken areas than there are fast food outlets? If thats the case...well, then thats an issue perhaps for town planners. I do find it hard to believe that its easier for some poeple to get to a fast food outlet than to a supermarket. That's absolutely correct, yes. For example, in West Oakland, the poorest and most rundown part of Oakland, there was not a single grocery store until a few years ago (I think it opened in 2002), after a lot of local activists pushed hard for it. There was nothing but liquor stores, convenience stores, and fast food. It was a huge local social justice issue, all over the freebie papers. The bus line from West Oakland is notoriously horrible. I was just reading an article about how, prior to 2002, getting by bus to the nearest Safeway took about 45 minutes if you counted in the likely waiting time. Add that on both ends and you're talking about an hour and a half commute to get to the nearest grocery store. If you're in the working poor -you work long hours for shit pay - that commute can be almost completely prohibitive. Not to mention it's much cheaper to buy shit from the local fast food joint than healthy food from the grocery store - healthy = expensive. Sad but true. This is pretty much the norm in American urban areas. Since you find it hard to believe, I wonder if it's just completely different elsewhere in the world? To me, the idea of a liquor store being easier to access than a grocery store is the most banal, obvious, and ordinary fact in the world if your'e poor. No doubt in some instance the problem is laziness. But I'm uncomfortable applying this label so widely. Again, the most obvious example is the working poor. I have trouble calling someone lazy who might be commuting by bus 6 days a week to some godawful job where they work hideous hours. And raising children at the same time. If they don't go for a run on a regular basis, perhaps they're just fucking exhausted from their horrific daily schedules, and not just lazy slobs. I'm not trying to say everyone who's fat is a victim of society. Far from it. But there is a reason why obesity and poverty tend to run together, and blaming it all on laziness masks the extent to which the problem has a significant social and political component. This is, at least, true in America - I'm not sure how true it is elsewhere. ... Apart from all of this, as far as laziness being an ugly trait in people...I guess I'm ugly. Sloth is definitely my sin. Cheers, M |
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Post by Paul on Jun 26, 2006 9:30:24 GMT -5
that you can move your hand up and down and make go "ffffttttttt" This cracked me up. Paul, sounds like you're already having more luck in kicking that particular habit than I ever did (granted, I'm the queen of anti-willpower.) That's awesome. Tunes, well over the weekend I didn't drink too much, but I had another bottle(s) of wine (Pinot Noir and Sauvignon Blanc) and didn't cave! I remained cigarette free, and I didn't even smoke weed either! Just drank wine. Speaking of, that Sauvignon Blanc is good stuff (had a bottle of Kendall Jackson)....My girlfriend, who likes white wine more so than red, asked me to try it, and I loved it; looks like I got a new summer drink. Normally I stay away from white wines, but perhaps I'll explore a few varities during the heat of summer.... The best way to kick one addiction is to replace it with another. I've been weed-free for almost 2 weeks now. I think its about that long, and thats the longest I've gone without in years. To combat the cravings, I just drink more wine. Only theres nothing to replace drinking with.
Very true; I enjoy getting my drink on....I'm no lush, but I like sipping down a bottle of red once or twice a week, or if I'm hanging w/ the boys, a few bottles a cold beer. I haven't gone weed free for two weeks in a while....I'm scaling back though, mainly just b/c I'm trying to save cash though... What kind of wine do you like? |
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