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Post by shin on Aug 15, 2007 21:13:54 GMT -5
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Post by Matheus on Aug 16, 2007 2:34:43 GMT -5
Damn shin, he said what we knew before this conflict started, but yet he was one of the biggest supporters.
People suck. Especially Dick Cheney.
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Post by shin on Aug 16, 2007 15:00:05 GMT -5
Now that it's clear that Dick Cheney knew exactly what would happen if the US invaded Iraq in the manner in which we did, you have to wonder why he went along with it anyway.
The only reasonable conclusion, as it turns out, is that Dick Cheney wanted to kill as many people, Iraqi and American alike, as possible. His goal was to bathe in the blood of the victims of this war.
Who knew?
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Post by Matheus on Aug 16, 2007 19:17:12 GMT -5
George Bush's America??? The blinders are on...  |
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Post by Matheus on Aug 16, 2007 19:22:41 GMT -5
"In 1997, along with Donald Rumsfeld, William Kristol and others, Cheney founded the "Project for the New American Century," a neo-conservative U.S. think tank whose self-stated goal is to "promote American global leadership."[32] One of the PNAC's positions involved urging the United States to remove Saddam Hussein's regime from power in Iraq, using "diplomatic, political and military efforts".[33] He was also part of the board of advisors of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) before becoming Vice President."
After watching the video you provided a link for, I also wonder what brought about the change of heart... I don't think it comes from a wanting to remove the Iraqi people out of a dictatorship and into "freedom." The whole concept of another country forcing a peoples into freedom is still a bit baffling to me. Force and freedom don't seem like good bedfellows... but what do I know??? I'm a social democrat, and all of us are retards.
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Post by phil on Aug 26, 2007 21:45:56 GMT -5
... According to the most reliable estimates, we have doled out more than $500 billion for the war, as well as $44 billion for the Iraqi reconstruction effort. And what did America's contractors give us for that money? They built big steaming shit piles, set brand-new trucks on fire, drove back and forth across the desert for no reason at all and dumped bags of nails in ditches.
For the most part, nobody at home cared, because war on some level is always a waste. But what happened in Iraq went beyond inefficiency, beyond fraud even. This was about the business of government being corrupted by the profit motive to such an extraordinary degree that now we all have to wonder how we will ever be able to depend on the state to do its job in the future.
If catastrophic failure is worth billions, where's the incentive to deliver success? There's no profit in patriotism, no cost-plus angle on common decency.... The Great Iraq Swindle How Bush Allowed an Army of For-Profit Contractors to Invade the U.S. Treasury www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/16076312/the_great_iraq_swindle |
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Post by phil on Aug 26, 2007 23:05:31 GMT -5
George W. Bush ...
Never travelled much outside the U.S. ...
He is chuck full of good intentions,
truly believes he got all the right answers,
he is very naive, not very intelligent
and extremely dangerous !
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Post by maarts on Aug 31, 2007 20:23:08 GMT -5
 Look very carefully...you'll see what's on his mind. |
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Post by phil on Sept 1, 2007 18:54:55 GMT -5
Isn't it what's on everybody's mind most of the time ?  ? British army chief attacks US as 'intellectually bankrupt' over IraqPeter Richards Saturday September 1, 2007 The Guardian
The former head of the British Army has attacked US postwar policy, calling it "intellectually bankrupt".General Sir Mike Jackson, who headed the army during the war in Iraq, described as "nonsensical" the claim by the former US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that US forces "don't do nation-building". He has also hit back at suggestions that British forces had failed in Basra. Mr Rumsfeld was "one of the most responsible for the current situation in Iraq," Gen Jackson says in his autobiography, Soldier. He describes Washington's approach to fighting global terrorism as "inadequate" for relying on military power over diplomacy and nation-building.Last week General Jack Keane, a US commander just returned from Iraq, said the security situation in southern Iraq was "deteriorating" and there was "general disengagement" by the British military in Basra. But Gen Jackson told the Daily Telegraph, which is serialising his book: "I don't think that's a fair assessment. "What has happened in the south, as in the rest of Iraq, was that primary responsibility for security would be handed to the Iraqis once the Iraqi authorities and the coalition were satisfied their training and development was appropriate. "In the south we had responsibility for four provinces. Three of these have been handed over in accordance with that strategy." He is also critical of the decision to hand control of planning the administration of Iraq to the Pentagon, and said disbanding the Iraqi army and security forces had been "very short-sighted". The Pentagon said divergent views were a "hallmark of open, democratic societies". |
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Post by maarts on Sept 1, 2007 20:28:56 GMT -5
Welcome Mr. Bush. Sydney is ready for your visit:  Hope you stay inside the fence. |
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Post by phil on Sept 1, 2007 20:54:37 GMT -5
What ? No pressing the flesh
and kissing babies for Junior ... ??
I'm shocked !!
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Post by maarts on Sept 1, 2007 21:00:49 GMT -5
What ? No pressing the flesh and kissing babies for Junior ... ?? I'm shocked !! we Aussies are mightily concerned about illegal migrants; we are afraid that Bush might want to escape and ask for asylum here. The fence is to keep him in. If Christmas Island, Woomera and the Children Overboard-affair has learned us anything, we cannot take those things too lightly.... |
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Post by phil on Sept 19, 2007 14:35:36 GMT -5
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Post by shin on Sept 20, 2007 0:28:01 GMT -5
I'd say that's a watershed moment in American culture, the exact moment when we pull the emergency brakes on this runaway, flaming train of a culture that's hurtling toward violent destruction and annihilation, a global pandemic of instituionalized mental retardation. That when we reach the point where we're debating whether the Earth is flat or not, that's the moment where we should rise up, fists raised, as a nation, and declare "NO MORE! NO! FUCKING! MORE! GET OFF OUR TELEVISIONS! GET OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS! NEVER BREED AND NEVER SPEAK AGAIN!"
But I'm sure Fox News will inform us that there are always two sides to every debate, and this too, shall pass.
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Post by phil on Oct 4, 2007 7:56:16 GMT -5
"severe interrogations" ... Nice euphemism ... New York Times October 4, 2007 Secret U.S. Endorsement of Severe Interrogations By SCOTT SHANE, DAVID JOHNSTON and JAMES RISEN WASHINGTON, Oct. 3 — When the Justice Department publicly declared torture “abhorrent” in a legal opinion in December 2004, the Bush administration appeared to have abandoned its assertion of nearly unlimited presidential authority to order brutal interrogations. But soon after Alberto R. Gonzales’s arrival as attorney general in February 2005, the Justice Department issued another opinion, this one in secret. It was a very different document, according to officials briefed on it, an expansive endorsement of the harshest interrogation techniques ever used by the Central Intelligence Agency. The new opinion, the officials said, for the first time provided explicit authorization to barrage terror suspects with a combination of painful physical and psychological tactics, including head-slapping, simulated drowning and frigid temperatures. Mr. Gonzales approved the legal memorandum on “combined effects” over the objections of James B. Comey, the deputy attorney general, who was leaving his job after bruising clashes with the White House. Disagreeing with what he viewed as the opinion’s overreaching legal reasoning, Mr. Comey told colleagues at the department that they would all be “ashamed” when the world eventually learned of it. Read more ... www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/washington/04interrogate.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1191495663-BzOQBXQ1B2EhMaGlHT%20oUA&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin |
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