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Post by RocDoc on Jun 29, 2004 10:44:29 GMT -5
Wooo-HA! There's a fantastic and pretty thorough 'moderne fashion' summary, from a 'what were you thinking?'-perspective...
7. CHunky-heeled shoes are heinous crimes against the eyes of all who behold them...Remember this teenaged girl! Burn all of your chunky Steve Maddens if you dare be part of well-groomed society in this life! Burn the wooden heels, the plastic heels, the cut-out heels. Burn those stripper shoes!!!*
The worst thing about those shoes is that the
long-legged walk of a pretty girl is transformed into a graceless giraffe-like clomp-clomp-clomp....VERY few have any idea how to walk in that sort of shoe. They nearly all become Herman Munster. Hasn't that style faded yet?
10. really now, high school girl, buy some clothes that fit you. if you buy the small shirt instead of the extra small, everyone will still know you have a 24 inch waist. but you'll miraculously be able to breathe.
I'm not sure which are worse, the ones who are relatively thin but SO untoned that the squeeze of the jeans, the jogging tops, inevitably squeezes a roll(s) either up OR down OR around their so-called 'hot' fashion look...worse still are the ones who wear jeans or exercise clothing which look like they were bought 10-15-20 pounds ago and they're STILL parading themselves in public with this over-stuffed sausage look, all rolls of squeezed out fat n'shit.
I've always wanted to make the comment ,
'Whoa, hot outfit!
'....but I'll bet that it musta really been something back when it fit you!'
Nope, no reason to ruin someone's day that way, I guess. But jeez, they're doing their presentation a horrible dis-service.
And it does seem to be an American epidemic.
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Post by ueb on Jun 29, 2004 12:51:43 GMT -5
Fabulous list, lumen.  |
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Post by Mary on Jun 29, 2004 23:37:51 GMT -5
7. CHunky-heeled shoes are heinous crimes against the eyes of all who behold them...Remember this teenaged girl! Burn all of your chunky Steve Maddens if you dare be part of well-groomed society in this life! Burn the wooden heels, the plastic heels, the cut-out heels. Burn those stripper shoes!!!* Aw crap, I'm not a teenage girl, and I feel a wee bit implicated in this fashion crime. I must confess to owning, and regularly wearing ( not just to bachelorette parties!) an ultra-clunky pair of L.E.I. black boots with big thick square heels. I'm careful about what outfits I wear them with - I don't wear them with my more classy skirts or anything, but I often wear them with this one very punk rock really jagged black skirt I've got. They are probably a horrible crime against decency in many regards, as they also have these really gaudy straps going around them with huge double-pronged silver buckles. I promise my other shoes compensate for this atrocity by their delicacy and elegance  I'm pretty sure I commit none of the other fashion crimes on your list, though. Maybe when I was much younger I wore white bras under white on occasion, but now I just never ever wear white anymore anyway, so it couldn't possibly be an issue... Ya know what, though? The great thing about fashion rules is, if you've got enough sass and self-confidence, half the fun is breaking them and still feeling great about it! I mean, if we've learned nothing else from drag queens, surely we've learned that.....  NP: Swans - Greed/Holy Money (song: Anything From You) Cheers, M |
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Post by dolly on Jun 30, 2004 4:16:34 GMT -5
I think I'm in agreement with pretty much all Lumen's rant... how wonderfully bitchy - we just can't help ourselves from exclaiming "would you look at that? What on earth does she think she looks like?" . We all do it - to our shame One of the worst crimes in my opinion is "big boned" women (to put it politely) with their curves in all the wrong places, on a night out wearing as little as is humanly possible. I mean.... if you are going to wear a short skirt - then to squeeze yourself into the tiniest strapless/backless top possible is just plain wrong. Why do they do it? They spend the whole evening tugging the top down to try and dissguise the spillage of love handles and the rest of the time pulling down their hemline to try and cover the inevitable exposure of cellulite blancmange - yet if they just wear something with a little more coverage, it would be far more flattering. Incidentally, this look suits no one - not even the waifiest of supermodel types. It's not sexy, it's just plain tacky. |
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Post by samplestiltskin on Jun 30, 2004 12:32:34 GMT -5
"Big boned" is really no euphemism for fat people. Big-boned is big-boned. Fat is fat. Sometimes big-boned people are fat, but there's a clear distinction between the two.
I am slowwwwwwly learning to be a little more accepting of erm, fat people. It used to just disgust me to high heaven, like if I was in a club and there were fat people all around me. But you know what? Yeah they have a problem and yeah most of them could seriously get off their ass and do something about it and YEAH they should know better than to dress up like Barbies when they're clearly not Barbie-size... but man, they're people too. They have feelings and a lot of them are beautiful inside, and I'm starting to see that's what really matters.
Yeah, not such an original revelation, but a big one for me. I've spent my life chasing the 80-lb ideal and I'm only just now starting to be able to look at myself and think "Wow. I'm beautiful." It's a waste of time obsessing over weight. Be healthy and good to yourself, THINK in healthy thought patterns, and you will be happy, which ultimately equates to beauty.
but anorexic goth sickboys are still heavenly.
NP: Polly Jean, Rid of Me ("Angelene")
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Post by Mary on Jun 30, 2004 13:22:48 GMT -5
I have to say I really don't understand animosity toward overweight people. They aren't really hurting anyone but themselves. I mean, yes, serious obesity is probably a sign of gluttony or sloth or both, but fat people just have the misfortune to constantly have their vices on display - the rest of us, the smokers and the drug-takers and the lazy SOBs who can't get out of bed before 11 a.m. (that would be me) - we're just fortunate enough not to have those vices constatly on display!!
Now I know the point of a lot of these posts is that people shouldn't dress in such a way that accentuates their fat problems, but eh... maybe they think they look fine, maybe they think other people should get over it, maybe they even feel sexy - if so, good for them!!
I guess I'm posting this cause ya know, it's not only the morbidly obese who have these problems... lots of us who aren't perfectly thin and toned have problematic parts of our bodies, fat rolls that appear when we sit down wearing jeans, cottage cheese thighs, all the rest of it... it makes me pretty uncomfortable to imagine that people are so viscerally, hostilely repulsed at the mere sight of a little fat!!!! Cause I sure know I've got some.
NP: Talking Heads - '77 (song: First Week/Last Week...Carefree)
Cheers,
M
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Post by lumencandle on Jun 30, 2004 15:30:51 GMT -5
Aw crap, I'm not a teenage girl, and I feel a wee bit implicated in this fashion crime. I must confess to owning, and regularly wearing ( not just to bachelorette parties!) an ultra-clunky pair of L.E.I. black boots with big thick square heels. I'm careful about what outfits I wear them with - I don't wear them with my more classy skirts or anything, but I often wear them with this one very punk rock really jagged black skirt I've got. They are probably a horrible crime against decency in many regards, as they also have these really gaudy straps going around them with huge double-pronged silver buckles. I promise my other shoes compensate for this atrocity by their delicacy and elegance ... Ya know what, though? The great thing about fashion rules is, if you've got enough sass and self-confidence, half the fun is breaking them and still feeling great about it! I mean, if we've learned nothing else from drag queens, surely we've learned that..... MSo sorry Mary, didn't mean to implicate you, and I certainly hope I didnt offend you! Really, though, it's just my taste, and I'm no fashion editor. I wear the stupidest stuff sometimes, and yes, I break "rules" when I feel the notion. Actually, I like chunky-heeled boots 100% of the time, I have a black pair I still wear a lot, they are much comfier than skinny heels! (And as for embellishments, I'm spying a blue pair of boots with lots of buckles for this winter, too.) It's just those ridiculous brick-like high heel shoes I was referring to, especially the really tall, extra chunkies and the wooden wedges with cutouts and all. |
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Post by dolly on Jul 3, 2004 3:58:12 GMT -5
Eh up. My animosity wasn't towards overweight people at all. Far from it. It's the trying to squish yourself into something 2 sizes too small in a bid to show as much flesh as possible brigade that my semi-rant was aimed at. You see it every Saturday night down the club and it's vile.
One of my very best friends is very large, bigboned - whatever you want to call it. It's not due to greed/sloth - she's naturally that way - but you know what? She's one of the most stylish people I know. She always dresses to suit her size - and I don't mean shapeless tents - I mean latest fashion neutrals that flatter her. She's beautiful and dooesn't let others views on her size affect how she dresses or indeed lives her life.
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Post by phil on Jul 3, 2004 4:59:21 GMT -5
"I'm Beautiful"
"That's it, baby! When you got it, flaunt it, flaunt it!"
"This is the Divine Miss M
and I'm here to share with you some rare
and stimulating insight into my cosmic fabulosity.
It's really very simple. I smiply believe with all my heart:"
I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, dammit!
I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, dammit!
I'm beautiful, so beautiful, I'm beautiful, dammit!
I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, dammit!
"Go away, little girl," they used to say.
"Hey, you're too fat, baby, you can't play."
"Hold on, miss thing, what you trying to do?
You know you're too wack to be in our school."
Too wack, too smart, too fast, too fine,
too loud, too tough, too too divine.
I said you don't belong. You don't belong.
Too loud, too big, too much to bear,
too bold, too brash, too prone to swear.
I heard that song for much too long.
Ain't this my sun? Ain't this my moon?
Ain't this my world to be who I choose?
Ain't this my song? Ain't this my movie?
Ain't this my world? I know I can do it.
I'm not too short, I'm not too tall,
I'm not too big, I'm not too small.
Ooh, don't lemme start lovin' myself!
Ooh, don't lemme start lovin' myself!
I'm not too white, I'm not too black,
I'm not too this, I'm not too that.
Ooh, don't lemme start lovin' myself!
Ooh, don't lemme start lovin' myself!
I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, dammit!
I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, dammit!
It's time to call it what it is. Don't play the naming game.
Become what you were born to be and be it unashamed.
"Go away, little boy," I can hear them say,
"Everybody on the block says they think you're gay.
Hold on, my friend, do you think we're blind?
Take a look at yourself. You're not our kind."
Too black, too white, too short, too tall,
too big, too green, too red, too small.
I said you don't belong. You don't belong.
Too black, too white, too short, too tall,
too blue, too green, too red, too small.
I heard that song for much to long.
Ain't this my sun? Ain't this my moon?
Ain't this my world to be who I choose?
Ain't this my song? Ain't this my movie?
Ain't this my world? I know I can do it.
People always ask me,
"Miss M, how did you get so far
on so little?" Shut up!
Well, I woke up one morning,
flossed my teeth and decided,
"Damn, I'm fierce!" You look good!
You can be just like me! A goddess? Yeah!
Don't just pussy foot around and sit on your assets.
Unleash your ferocity upon an unsuspecting world.
Rise up and repeat after me: "I'm beautiful!"
I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful!
Can you say that?
I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful!
I don't hear you!
I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful!
Louder!
I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful!
Hey!
That's it, baby, when you got it, flaunt it, flaunt it!
Aaaaaah!
Ain't this my sun? My sun! Ain't this my moon? My moon!
Ain't this my world to be who I choose?
Ain't this our song? Ain't this our song?
Ain't this our movie? Ain't this our movie?
Ain't this our world to be who we choose?
I'm not too short, I'm not too tall,
I'm not too big, I'm not too small.
Ooh, don't lemme start lovin' myself!
Ooh, don't lemme start lovin' myself!
I'm not too white, I'm not too black,
I'm not too this, I'm not too that.
Ooh, don't lemme start lovin' myself!
Ooh, don't lemme start lovin' myself!
I'm beautiful, dammit!
I'm Beautiful (Bette Midler)
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Post by dolly on Jul 3, 2004 7:55:50 GMT -5
Bette Midler, Phil? At least it wasn't Christina Aguilera |
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Jul 4, 2004 2:23:17 GMT -5
I think it's cool when fat people mistakenly think they look beautiful. You've got to admire that amount of self-deception.
If I'm being more sensitive about it though, smoking 40 a day would solve the problem for most of these grotesque sumo dump-trucks. In the name of fashion... fuck up your lungs, not your body weight.
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Post by rockkid on Jul 4, 2004 20:52:21 GMT -5
Shopping score today….. big bottle of Fendi. Yummy.
& love that list lumen. Must be a north America wide thing.
I get what Dolly means totally. It’s not fat discrimination rather that there’s just really no need to test the tinsel strength of a given fabric.
Mirrors people use em’ they’re free.
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Post by Meursault on Jul 5, 2004 8:15:45 GMT -5
What's the feeling about jeans on men these days ladies?
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Post by dolly on Jul 6, 2004 0:41:43 GMT -5
Shopping score today….. big bottle of Fendi. Yummy. & love that list lumen. Must be a north America wide thing. I get what Dolly means totally. It’s not fat discrimination rather that there’s just really no need to test the tinsel strength of a given fabric. Mirrors people use em’ they’re free. Thankyou! I guess you phrased it better, Rockkid. I can assure you though - the Lumen list - it's not just North America....... *shudder* A fashion of the moment that has me mystified - suede wrinkley boots (any colour) under 3/4 length combats or turn-up jeans. I think it looks silly - like your pants are half-mast and you're playing at being Robin of Sherwood, or something. I tried it myself in front of the mirror the other day (when I was sure Jllm wasn't looking) and it looked bloody ridiculous. Is it just a Brit thing, or do we have any major offenders amongst us?  |
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Post by lumencandle on Jul 6, 2004 12:46:15 GMT -5
Shane, I think jeans on guys are good. I mean, they have to be the right jeans, and I dont even have TIME for that...but why do you ask?
I feel like maybe I'm ou-of-the-loop and maybe I'm last to know that guys in jeans is totally wrong or something! But me, I like it.
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