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Post by sisyphus on Apr 26, 2006 1:05:46 GMT -5
here's one example of marina abramovic's work: (it was strange that in my dream i was so certain it was her...)
from wikpedia:
Rhythm 0, 1974
To test the limits of the relationship between performer and audience, Abramovi? developed one of her most challenging (and best-known) performances. She assigned a passive role to herself, with the public being the force which would act on her.
Abramovi? had had placed upon a table 72 objects that people were allowed to use (a sign infomed them) in any way that they chose. Some of these were objects that could give pleasure, while others could be wielded to inflict pain, or to harm her. Among them were scissors, a knife, a whip, and, most notoriously, a gun loaded with a single bullet. For six hours the artist sat immobile, allowing the audience members to entirely direct the action.
Initially, members of the audience reacted with caution and modesty, but as time passed (and the artist remained impassive) several people began to act quite aggressively. As Abramovi? described it later:
“The experience I learned was that…if you leave decision to the public, you can be killed.” ... “I felt really violated: they cut my clothes, stuck rose thorns in my stomach, one person aimed the gun at my head, and another took it away. It created an aggressive atmosphere. After exactly 6 hours, as planned, I stood up and started walking toward the public. Everyone ran away, escaping an actual confrontation.” (Daneri, 29; and 30).
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Post by sisyphus on Apr 26, 2006 4:52:48 GMT -5
by the way, all those question marks replacing the c at the end of Abramovic's name are just a letter that didnt translate well in the cut and paste... basically, a c with an accent above it that gives it a "ch" sound.... abramovich...
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Post by sisyphus on Apr 26, 2006 9:20:22 GMT -5
more on marina abramovic, and interview with "the tribe" about one of her more recent 12 day performances....salman rushdie and susan sontag gave her presents... www.tribes.org/cgi-bin/form.pl?karticle=26Performance's only life is in the present. Performance cannot be saved, recorded, documented, or otherwise participate in the circulation of representations of representations: once it does so, it becomes something other than performance. -Peggy Phelan, Unmarked- |
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Post by rockkid on May 17, 2006 7:09:40 GMT -5
Strangest dream last night. I was a teen again (put it at around 16 which oddly enough would be round the time my Nana died).
Dreamt I lived in this house not unlike the one in that movie Pacific Heights (the house of my youth looked nothing like it).
Anyhow for some reason my Nana had a tiny very tiny gun. Sort of like a Derringer.
For some really strong reason I just new if I went up to the top floor with her glass of milk I’d see the after math of a shot to her head.
So I didn’t go, instead I walked away from the house going up hill for what seemed like ages all the while babbling on a cordless phone (which never would’ve had that kind of range) trying to persuade the police to come.
I can’t remember prior parts of the dream except I do know there was some sort of weird lead up (other strange goings on in the house).
Now my Nana never shot herself in real life & I never lived in a house like that one.
Hmmmmmmmmm, what gives?
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Post by strat-0 on May 24, 2006 15:31:16 GMT -5
Don't know, Rock. I have lots of strange ones.
The soundtrack to my dream two nights ago was an old James Gang tune that played several times. I haven't heard it in probably 15 years and I couldn't think of the name of it in the morning. I did a Google of some lyrics that I could remember ("forget the past") + Joe Walsh, and that was enough to come up with it: Take a Look Around. Great song with this thunderous Hammond B3 part. I had it in my head all day. I finally ordered a James Gang CD at Amazon that has it. Then it finally receeded back into the background of my brain and I had a hard time even remembering the tune today. I think I used to have it on a cassette, or somebody did...
Joe Walsh is so much better than the stuff of his they play on the radio or anything with the Eagles.
You will never see me
Walking around feeling low
You will never hear there
Goes a man who doesn t know
Too many roads to walk
Too many things to do
Too many words to talk
Moments too few
I don't think you know
Though you've been told a million times
Its not clear to see
Unless you read in between the lines
Look out your window
When did it start?
Nothing's for certain
It's just a part
If you're feeling low, no
And your world comes tumbling down
If you see how time stops
Better take a look around
Good things must end
They never last
Look to tomorrow
Forget the past
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Post by strat-0 on May 28, 2006 19:30:40 GMT -5
Ha, ha! The CD came today and I've been giving it a spin. Dream imitates life... Life immitates dream...? I'd forgotten how good the old Walsh stuff is, and it had been so long since I'd heard it. "The Bomber" just rocks. I used to do a pretty good cover of the slide work in that one. Just down and dirty stuff. Then it got to "Take a Look Around" - man, I've got fucking tears in my eyes right now! Something about that Hammond B3 maybe. Maybe just 'cause it is such a blast from the past that I hadn't heard in so long, and just a great piece of music. I'm very glad I dreamed it out of nowhere the other night. Everything's going to be OK, ya dig?  |
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Post by samplestiltskin on Jul 30, 2006 22:07:04 GMT -5
lately it takes me a long time to really wake up, i guess i wander around babbling insanities for a minute or so before i cross completely back over from dream world. my roommate says last week i opened my eyes after falling asleep in my giant chair and asked him if he'd seen my finger, that i was looking for it and i thought i probably needed to go to the hospital. i still have all my fingers. i'm glad i don't remember that dream.
rock that dream was awful! maybe you were just too hot while you slept and had just a randomly weird nightmare..
hi!!!!! i am back, just in time to have my internet disconnected yet again so i can move. i heard there were award shows. i miss this place, but lately i've been finding porn that isn't mine on my computer and i have a hard time sitting in a chair that my roommate has probably been sitting naked in. really helps cut down on internet geekiness. i will probably get around more when i live by myself again. soon!
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Post by samplestiltskin on Sept 6, 2006 11:35:13 GMT -5
had the weirdest, worst dreams these last few days. the first night i blamed it on cheese. now i'm not sure...
last nite i dreamt of kids wearing giant poofy round frames they could have rolled around in, they were hung up on the fence of a hotel and thrown to the garbage men when they came. sometimes i was one of the kids and sometimes i was the one who threw them. ??
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Post by wayved on Sept 7, 2006 23:48:28 GMT -5
Samples: woah!
My dream last night:
I was living in a house with alot the people I know. It was a huge house. Then we all had to go canoeing. WHAT???
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Post by samplestiltskin on Sept 8, 2006 9:05:51 GMT -5
Sometimes you just have to go canoeing!
I've been taking borax homeopathy for my nightmares, it really works! Doesn't help you sleep any better, but at least when you wake up six times a night it's from halfway pleasant dreams.
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Post by wayved on Sept 9, 2006 0:33:12 GMT -5
Borax homeopathy? Are you kidding? What is that?
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Post by samplestiltskin on Sept 11, 2006 12:44:54 GMT -5
um.... well homeopathy is basically the science of treating symptoms with tiny-tiny amounts of poisonous herbs which CAUSE your symptoms; the tiny amount activates your immune system just enough to fight the symptom. for instance, i take borax homeopathy for nightmares, because borax causes (among other things) bad nightmares and sleep disturbances. it tricks your immune system into fighting your symptom naturally. not addictive at all.
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Post by samplestiltskin on Oct 17, 2006 9:58:16 GMT -5
So I am curious to see what anybody thinks of this, because I did not know what to tell my roommate when he told me this last night:
He has a half-brother who he grew up with. They have always had the same recurring dream, up until a few years ago. They call the dream figure The Shadow Man, he is terrifying but never really does anything. He walks into the room, just a black figure with no features, and sometimes would bend over and peer deeply into the face of the sleeper, and they would wake up screaming in terror. They were waking dreams though, they both claim they were not asleep when they saw him. My first thought was abuse, but it happens to them wherever they are sleeping, whether they were at college, in friend's houses, whatever. It's just creepy to me. I don't want him bringing this shadow dude to my house.
So what do you all think? I just dont' see how they could both have the same recurring dream just randomly.
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Post by sisyphus on Oct 19, 2006 1:08:45 GMT -5
dreams are utterly whacky for me these days. the other night i dreamt that a naked 80+ year old man with an erection was chasing me around inside the extensive labyrinthine bowels of some kind of church.
glad you have your fingers, samps.
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Post by samplestiltskin on Oct 19, 2006 9:47:04 GMT -5
Egh, that's awful. How old are you..... and how old is Thorn? ;P
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