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Post by Meursault on Jun 16, 2005 12:52:12 GMT -5
Understood.
But ask yourself, how can I change the things around me, so I stay #1, and remain #1 well into my old age.
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Post by pissin2 on Jun 16, 2005 12:59:23 GMT -5
I usually ask myself "what do I need to be number 1 for?
What is this some kind of competition?
Fuck that."
Then I go drink some beers.
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Post by Meursault on Jun 16, 2005 13:01:20 GMT -5
Mmm beers.
Are you in school or working, or looking for work, applying to school, drinking beers?
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Post by pissin2 on Jun 16, 2005 13:06:21 GMT -5
I'm working, and unfortunately not drinking beers at the moment.
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Post by Meursault on Jun 16, 2005 13:11:03 GMT -5
Is this a job you could sneak some in?
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Post by pissin2 on Jun 16, 2005 13:26:51 GMT -5
I've never tried that. Although there are many times I wish I did.
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Post by samplestiltskin on Jun 16, 2005 13:48:30 GMT -5
Kids....a woman's first sighting of the gateways of hell.
I understand how you feel (if that's you that impregnated the lady in question) but man.. as many things as kids will get you (a man to stay with you maybe, more money from the government, tax breaks) I still have to wonder what the HELL anyone would want them for.
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Post by Ampage on Jun 16, 2005 13:58:18 GMT -5
Dogs are a much better choice.
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Post by samplestiltskin on Jun 16, 2005 14:08:54 GMT -5
I completely agree. Shorter life span, more grateful, cheaper, and fuzzy.
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Post by Meursault on Jun 16, 2005 14:14:42 GMT -5
I am not having any kids right now, and I don't really see the need to.
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Post by RocDoc on Jun 16, 2005 20:00:25 GMT -5
Alcohol makes me do stupid things I regret heartily later (like striking up friendships with people I would normally beat back with a stick.)
The last idea brought a major guffaw of self-recognition...I mean it's great to be forgiving, even accepting of the cretins you sometimes/often meet while fucked up in bars...but my god, the times I've ended up in 'friendships' with people I would have nearly instantly otherwise asked to get the fuck away from me...women, guys...didn't matter.
Tho I guess it's the part of being drunk in public..and then there's me generally also being a happy drunk..I only want to get along with everybody, basically for the reason that I'd rather no-one fucks with me, trying to pick a fight or simply just be an asshole.
I'm not there to act-out the shit that's gone bad in my life.
If that's what they're there for, I wish that they work that deal with someone else, not me.
So basically I'm friendly. Trying to just get some respect in return.
But I've definitely ended up with some crazy fucks treating me like some long lost buddy, when all I wanted was to chill out. Tho it should be obvious, that's still far from being all bad, but boy, I've had FAR too much information thrusted on me by some very strange people at some well-inebriated moments.
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Post by Thorngrub on Jun 17, 2005 12:02:07 GMT -5
Women: a kid's first sighting of the gateways of hell. j/k  |
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Post by ScottsyII on Jun 18, 2005 5:57:29 GMT -5
I understand how you feel (if that's you that impregnated the lady in question) but man.. as many things as kids will get you (a man to stay with you maybe, more money from the government, tax breaks) I still have to wonder what the HELL anyone would want them.
Well for me because, and I know this is probably showing my age now, they bring more to your life than personal benefit. You have them and you realise it all isn't about you or your needs and interests anymore. You see yourself in a different light and you come to realise your own quirks through seeing them develop their own.
Nah, they aren't easy and it often feels masochistic what you are doing, because they frustrate, they run you down and they make you tired these little - uns.
But honestly it's only when you have them and you see your own eyes looking back at you and smiling and saying "my daddy" that you get a MASSIVE sense of pride, happiness... and plain ol' humility. Believe me, Ive been looked at that way by my daughter, and it's priceless. Better than anything I've ever done purely for my own needs. Better than any night out drinking, better than even my favourite album or piece of music. Better than passing college, getting my first job... it surpasses the lot, and it changes you from the very core of who you are.
So why do people have kids? Because they get to a point where life isn't about just them, and they want it to be about something more. Essentially every other experience in life is about the self, aside from raising kids or looking after the sick, or people with needs.
I love my kids, one of whom is genetically related to me, one who isn't. My life is a zillion times more incredible since they entered my life, both of them. I can't even think about what life was like without them. And I realise why that is the case. They are now very much what I am all about.
Just thought I'd add my $0.02 on that topic... :-)
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Post by ScottsyII on Jun 18, 2005 6:49:20 GMT -5
I really hope that didn't come across as sanctimonious or or preachy, was just kinda trying to break down the ideas why people have kids based on my own experiences, I wasn't trying to give the impression that it is selfish not to have kids or anything like that, hey its perfectly cool not to have 'em, it's not everyone's cup of tea... I just think that for some people its the perfect way to have more in their lives, and thats why they do. Some people have other goals in life and that is perfectly cool... I mean, in this world where we are fast running out room fpr every adult to aspire to being a parent...
So yeah, dn't take my previous post as me telling you all of for being self obsessed for not having kids, etc... more so, it was my explanation for why I love having kids in my life and why I'm hoping Mellie and I have one more at least... once I am finally with her in the States of course!
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Post by ScottsyII on Jun 18, 2005 6:52:40 GMT -5
But ask yourself, how can I change the things around me, so I stay #1, and remain #1 well into my old age.
But isn't this why the Western world is so fucked up now??! Truly it seems to me that our complete dependence on an individualistic way of living is making more problems and breeding more assholes in the world than ever before...
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