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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 23, 2004 10:21:48 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]I am against completely quitting anything that's not an addiction. I've been drinking almost nothing but water since I was thirteen years old, but that doesn't mean I'm not above the occasional Pepsi. If our society would drink soda as it was meant to be drank- as a sweet treat, even a dessert- then there'd be no hazard with the stuff.
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luke, I fully agree with this. Rules are meant to be broken. Every once in a while I sneak a treat, just as you have explained. Absolutism is something I am not inclined to agree with.
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Post by Ampage on Sept 23, 2004 10:23:25 GMT -5
I know shit like that happens everywhere, but from what I understand KFC is one of the few who have their very own farms solely for their use (or abuse as it were). Yes, gone are the days of slicing a chickens throat in one fell swoop and hanging it upside down for all the blood to drain out, but there are still reasonable and responsible ways to get things done and KFC isn’t one to take the time or money to do so. So with that, and because Pamela Anderson told me to, I won’t eat there. ;D
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 23, 2004 10:24:14 GMT -5
[glow=orange,2,300]I doubt that anti-sugar book would do me much good. I've read Animal Liberation, Fast Food nation, and all sorts of similar stuff, and I have no problem whatsoever with eating meat every day, and chowing down on the monthly dose of McDonald's or KFC.
Hope I don't sound too harsh, thorny! I'm not trying to attack you for your personal choice or anything of that nature. Just stating my belief that I think total abstinence in the face of anything but prior addiction is usually a pointless idea.
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No, not at all. In fact 'twas I who must've come across "too harshly", if I implied that my having "quit" refined sugar was that hardcore, or absolute.
I have reduced my former refined-sugar intake by at least 90%.
To someone such as me -- who was a bonafide SUGAR JUNKIE of far beyond-appropriate measures of intake -- cutting back that intake by a drastic percentage became necessary, is all.
Ya dig?
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 23, 2004 10:27:43 GMT -5
As for the book SUGAR BLUES not doing you any good -- I wholly disagree with that sentiment. Anyone who reads it will be sure to benefit from the knowledge contained with in: historical and health-wise. You should really give it a gander, for shits & giggles if nothing else.
I have been surfing the tides of chaos ever since I can remember.
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Post by luke on Sept 23, 2004 10:33:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I actually wouldn't mind reading Sugar Blues. It does sound interesting and it is something I probably need to know about.
Also, thorny, I dunno if you were sounding too "harsh." It's just that sometimes (and this is a good thing!) your posting can sound a bit dramatic and absoslute, even though the intention is usually there to be seen.
Amp, hoo-boy did I laugh when I saw that Pam Anderson KFC sign. That's really funny.
Peter Singer always argued that if we quit with the factory farming and became more responsible with killing our food, then everyone would end up a vegetarian anyway because it'd be so damn expensive not to be one.
Me, I eat at KFC because it's so goddamn delicious. And because I have all these two-for-one buffet coupons. Even Riley still gets the shakes when he catches a whiff of the Colonel's secret herbs and spices, I believe.
I'm hungry. But it fucking RAINED this morning, so I didn't get to go running so there's no way I'm eating some crap like fried chicken...
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 23, 2004 17:00:46 GMT -5
Man, I am so with luke on the "not caring" one whit about how "gross" or "cruel" the truth behind fast food might be . . . I can't explain it, so I'll let luke's post on it speak for the both of us. Yeah luke . . . I know just what you mean about my posting style . . .and how "absolute" it comes across. I think it's merely a side-effect from my conviction. Something I need to work on (not my conviction: that I like perfectly well the way it is -- I mean I need to work on my writing so that I may improve it to the point it doesn't come across with such a degree of absolutism . . . or something. NAH!!!!!, fuckit I'll just keep on bein' me.  See U around laterZ |
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Post by RocDoc on Sept 23, 2004 18:54:52 GMT -5
Now you DO know that ingested carbohydrates(ie refined sugars AND then all breads, noodles, potato-type starches, fruit sugars, milk sugars)are one sometimes two biochemical reactions away from conversion into sugars in the body. Which either have to be used right then or available insulin truns them into storage forms, the most long term and inaccessible of which is fat.....the fructoses, sucroses, maltoses...ALL of the -ose endings float around in ya regardless of having bailed on 'refined' sugars.
Which is NOT to say that dumping 'sugar' isn't a great idea....but largely, depending on what OTHER health problems you already have...or what health problems you have a tendency toward either genetically, systemically or behaviorally...the dumping of sugar from your diets is just a start.
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Post by luke on Sept 24, 2004 8:59:30 GMT -5
Well, being that I got an F in Biology 101 my first time around, and now on my second I've already flunked the first test...I guess it's safe to say that no, I didn't know that.
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 24, 2004 13:01:30 GMT -5
Now you DO know that ingested carbohydrates(ie refined sugars AND then all breads, noodles, potato-type starches, fruit sugars, milk sugars)are one sometimes two biochemical reactions away from conversion into sugars in the body. Which either have to be used right then or available insulin truns them into storage forms, the most long term and inaccessible of which is fat.....the fructoses, sucroses, maltoses...ALL of the -ose endings float around in ya regardless of having bailed on 'refined' sugars. Which is NOT to say that dumping 'sugar' isn't a great idea....but largely, depending on what OTHER health problems you already have...or what health problems you have a tendency toward either genetically, systemically or behaviorally...the dumping of sugar from your diets is just a start. Totally. It's just a start for me towards a healthier diet. If all of us featured built-in 'refined-sugar detector gauges', which of us would have the needle perpetually in the red? Speaking for myself, and from experience, I know that I always had that needle pushed into the red, ever since I was a kid. So eventually (6 months ago to be exact), I realized it was time to do something about that. My needle has now relaxed into the normal, mid-range area; it is no longer in the red. And I'm real glad about that. But yes -- it is just a "start". I also avoid spaghetti and carb-type shit a lot these days...what I've got to start working on is eating more green leafy salads and the like. I love salads, I just don't bother with them enough. For now, I try a wide variety of foods, veering towards 'natural' foods whenever I can, have dumped nearly all preservative-laced shelf-life products, and drink water water water every day. But tonight, I'm gettin drunk! Been invited to a local dive with some friends . . . a motley mix . . . should be interesting. As long as I don't bike away from there into an accident. heh heh |
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Post by Ayinger on Feb 11, 2005 11:00:29 GMT -5
I need to find some Zotz.....I don't do candy much but the last week I keep searching the aisles for them....*sniff* maybe they don't make 'em anymore....
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Post by pissin2 on Feb 11, 2005 12:06:54 GMT -5
Tom Morello told me not to eat at Taco Bell.
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Post by Thorngrub on Feb 11, 2005 12:39:45 GMT -5
And you'll do what he says by god.
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Post by pissin2 on Feb 11, 2005 12:41:05 GMT -5
The hell I will. Taco Bell rules!
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Post by Thorngrub on Feb 16, 2005 13:48:36 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I forgot. I'll second that! Screw Tom Morello!
*seriously though, them beef & potato burritos are awesome huh*
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Post by wayved on Aug 27, 2005 0:05:58 GMT -5
Fuck Kicking Sugar! Try kicking cigarettes! They smell bad, they make you cough after too many, try to kick them you get pissed off and antsy. You get looked down upon by your peers when you smoke "oh look hes got his security blanket" says the asshole who cheats on his wife or:
"those thingsll kill yaz" says the man who pickes his nose and leaves the residuals wherever they may be flung.
I know smokings bad for me. I dont want to die young. I dont want my son to smoke. I want to quit. I would say Quitting KFC is easy (just find another fried chicken place---hahahaha!) but I know people who are addicted to food too...I eat right and exercise but I just want to live my life without smokes. Any ex-smokers who have tips (without drugs--people keep saying Welbutrin--forget that!) would be greatly appreciated.
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