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[loudaab]

kenholzman said:

Um, I don't see a "George Bush defense" anywhere in my post to you, PEW. Please elaborate. Or better yet, explain to me how my mistatement is a "lie" while yours isn't. I don't see a meaningful distinction between them. If you do, please elaborate.

You called me a half-informed idiot in the Gerald Ford thread. Since this is your opinion of me, then you should not realistically expect me to get any more than half of my facts right.
On the other hand I have made no such nasty claims about you. Therefore I do not have the expectation that you have your facts all wrong.
In otherwords, because of your own judgement, when I misquote something it is expected and no appology is neccesary. When you do it however it is a blatant lie.

[Galactus]

loudaab said:

kenholzman said:

Um, I don't see a "George Bush defense" anywhere in my post to you, PEW. Please elaborate. Or better yet, explain to me how my mistatement is a "lie" while yours isn't. I don't see a meaningful distinction between them. If you do, please elaborate.

You called me a half-informed idiot in the Gerald Ford thread. Since this is your opinion of me, then you should not realistically expect me to get any more than half of my facts right.
On the other hand I have made no such nasty claims about you. Therefore I do not have the expectation that you have your facts all wrong.
In otherwords, because of your own judgement, when I misquote something it is expected and no appology is neccesary. When you do it however it is a blatant lie.

Wow, honestly, just wow...

[loudaab]

ded said:

loudaab said:

I'm suggesting SOME white people will tout an artist that is uncompromising in their black pride in order to cloak their WMG (white man's guilt). Not all. Certainly there are white folk who appreciate James Browns music on a less superfical level. But because James Brown was so unapolgetically black he is a beacon for those who want to cover up their WMG--I've seen it happen.

So you've decided that, in fact, a majority of Brown's white fans suffer from "WMG"?

I didnt say its a majority of all jB's white fans. It is a good portion of those that I have run across--especially those whiteys from the Suburbs and from Yuppies.

[Kensterberg]

loudaab said:

kenholzman said:

Um, I don't see a "George Bush defense" anywhere in my post to you, PEW. Please elaborate. Or better yet, explain to me how my mistatement is a "lie" while yours isn't. I don't see a meaningful distinction between them. If you do, please elaborate.

You called me a half-informed idiot in the Gerald Ford thread. Since this is your opinion of me, then you should not realistically expect me to get any more than half of my facts right.
On the other hand I have made no such nasty claims about you. Therefore I do not have the expectation that you have your facts all wrong.
In otherwords, because of your own judgement, when I misquote something it is expected and no appology is neccesary. When you do it however it is a blatant lie.

You know, you just can't argue with logic like this.

[Galactus]

loudaab said:

ded said:

So you've decided that, in fact, a majority of Brown's white fans suffer from "WMG"?

I didnt say its a majority of all jB's white fans. It is a good portion of those that I have run across--especially those whiteys from the Suburbs and from Yuppies.

Do they tell you they only like him because they feel guilty about racism? Are you so personable as to get them to admit it?

[loudaab]

ded said:

loudaab said:

I didnt say its a majority of all jB's white fans. It is a good portion of those that I have run across--especially those whiteys from the Suburbs and from Yuppies.

Do they tell you they only like him because they feel guilty about racism? Are you so personable as to get them to admit it?

They admit it non-verbally. We have all been blessed with the gift of conscious existence, no? We can percieve the universe around us and make deductions about it. If we see someone who is in a hurry and is driving in heavy traffic then gets stuck behind a bus. We can deduce they are pissed off by their body language, their gestures, their facial ecpression etc. Did this person actually tell us they are pissed off? No. But as perceptive human beings we can figure it out, cant we?

[Kensterberg]

loudaab said:

ded said:

So you've decided that, in fact, a majority of Brown's white fans suffer from "WMG"?

I didnt say its a majority of all jB's white fans. It is a good portion of those that I have run across--especially those whiteys from the Suburbs and from Yuppies.

There are still Yuppies? Where? Since those were "young urban professionals" in the early to middle eighties, the youngest "yuppies" are now pushing fifty -- not exactly young! And demographically, most have (like RocDoc) moved out into the suburbs or exurbs. I don't think a fiftysomething exec or lawyer living in the outskirts of a major urban area (for example) fit into any meaningful definition of the term "yuppy."

Or has Chicago somehow managed to preserve a selection of these now-rare creatures, and if so, do you guys keep them in their natural habitat? Do you have a supply of '80's Bimmers and Saabs for them to drive? I bet you guys even keep a couple of cases of Bartels and James wine coolers handy to take the stress off them while they slave over their 286 PCs with their classic green-screen monitors. Better make sure you snatch up the last stock of 5 1/4 inch floppy discs for them to use -- and whatever you do, pray that these "yuppies" don't ever find out about this whole "internet" thingy, that'll completely ruin their integrity!

[Galactus]

loudaab said:

ded said:

Do they tell you they only like him because they feel guilty about racism? Are you so personable as to get them to admit it?

They admit it non-verbally. We have all been blessed with the gift of conscious existence, no? We can percieve the universe around us and make deductions about it. If we see someone who is in a hurry and is driving in heavy traffic then gets stuck behind a bus. We can deduce they are pissed off by their body language, their gestures, their facial ecpression etc. Did this person actually tell us they are pissed off? No. But as perceptive human beings we can figure it out, cant we?

So they sweat or look up a lot when they're talking about James Brown...give a little too much information, that sort of thing?

[Kensterberg]

I'm also curious ... just how many white JB fans are there in the suburbs of Chicago? And how many have you personally "observed," PEW?

[Kensterberg]

loudaab said:

You called me a half-informed idiot in the Gerald Ford thread.

BTW, this isn't an opinion, it is a verifiable fact. Just ask Shin. Or Rocky. Or DED. Truthiness is an absolute defense to slander, and so is truth itself.

[loudaab]

ded said:

loudaab said:

They admit it non-verbally. We have all been blessed with the gift of conscious existence, no? We can percieve the universe around us and make deductions about it. If we see someone who is in a hurry and is driving in heavy traffic then gets stuck behind a bus. We can deduce they are pissed off by their body language, their gestures, their facial ecpression etc. Did this person actually tell us they are pissed off? No. But as perceptive human beings we can figure it out, cant we?

So they sweat or look up a lot when they're talking about James Brown...give a little too much information, that sort of thing?

There are many different ways. Each person is an individual and each person has their own unique 'tells'. In our Corporate Consumer Culture alot of people mark out their identity by associating themselves with certain pop icons. It could be a movie or a tv show or a pop star or a sports team, etc. Look at nearly any MySpace profile and you will see dozens of films, tv shows, musical artists, etc that the person lists as a way for the viewer to 'understand' who they are and what they are about. Now, very few people want to be thought of as contributing to hidden racism, so one quick fix is to identify yourself with a black artist who is the epitome of blackness, aka James brown.

[Galactus]

Would you like to know the truth, Paul Edward Wagemann?

[phil]

Here an idea guys ...

Keep Bozo here on this tread alone and try to ignore him everywhere else
so I won't have to waste my time "fast-forwarding" these senseless arguments that are bound to follow this clown around ...

Thanks !!

[Ryosuke]

loudaab said:

kenholzman said:

Um, I don't see a "George Bush defense" anywhere in my post to you, PEW. Please elaborate. Or better yet, explain to me how my mistatement is a "lie" while yours isn't. I don't see a meaningful distinction between them. If you do, please elaborate.

You called me a half-informed idiot in the Gerald Ford thread. Since this is your opinion of me, then you should not realistically expect me to get any more than half of my facts right.
On the other hand I have made no such nasty claims about you. Therefore I do not have the expectation that you have your facts all wrong.
In otherwords, because of your own judgement, when I misquote something it is expected and no appology is neccesary. When you do it however it is a blatant lie.

Words fail me.

[kool]

By PEW from that blog, in response to someone criticizing his POV.

I'll be honest with you (as I always am). I've TRIED to like funk and I've TRIED to like Hip Hop. And I just dont. Now some people would say that I dont like them because I'm a racist. You know there are people who would say that--in fact people HAVE said that to me. But if I was truly a racist, then I actually would go out and buy HipHop records and buy Funk records and champion these artists to hide my guilt. But I dont. Although I have seen people who do. That's white man's guilt. It's real, it exists and most people dont like to admit it.

This is so retarded. If you honestly believe that, then you are in fact, a racist for even thinking of something like that.