Best Albums of the 00s?

[luke]

And Ken, your comment about Toxic, "disassociate it from Britney", is part of the problem. Way too much is spent on if its "cool" to like/listen to someone. So she hit one out of the park this year, good for her and any listener that can admit to it. That song truly is an ass shaker.

Thing is, this song SHOULD be disassociated with Britney. It deserves a WAY higher spot than number thirteen, and you have to be fucking tone def not to ADORE this tune, but let's face it, what the hell did Britney Spears have to do with this song? So her voice was electronically dubbed into one of the catchiest hooks in the history of music. She's not singing on it, she's not showcasing any talent, she's just having her voice manipulated into a computerized instrument by (and everyone loves these guys, from the hippest of hipsters to the teenybopperist of teenyboppers to the thuggest of thugs) the Neptunes. Seriously, this is a Neptunes song, and that's why it's so great. Britney's talentless, boring, hillbilly slut ass did el zilcho to make this song great. They could have computerized my fucking grandma singing, and this song would have been just as good. This is a tune about the Neptunes, not Britney and, sadly, there wasn't anything remotely catchy on the rest of this wretched, dismal album.

And oh yeah, now for my mandatory Toxic plug...

www.localh.com/toxic.mp3

[patlogi]

"Toxic" made me a Britney Spears fan. I really like that song. Before hearing "Toxic" I never listened to a Britney Spears song.

One of the best albums of the 2000's I think is "American Life" by Madonna. Although her least successful, I find it her most intimate and spiritual. Exceeding "Ray Of Light" in how personal those songs are written and performed.

My least favorite song is "Hollywood." My most favorite is "Nothing Fails" and "Love Profusion."

Think the next time I see Britney's "My Prerogrative" I'll purchase it.

[Weeping_Guitar]

KenHolzman said:

Though the anti-rock bias of the folks who compiled this list was a bit much, IMO. I would have expected to see "Slither" and something from All That You Can't Leave Behind in this list myself, but maybe that's just how out of touch I am at this point.

Woah, where was "Beautiful Day"? That's the big rock single of the present decade. When it comes to what a single's function is, that one was perfect. It was heard everywhere, brought great anticipation for the the upcoming record, and is still often heard a few years later.

[patlogi]

"Ray Of Light" remains my favorite Madonna album though. Love that video.

[lunatic96]

I think you guys are forgetting that pitchfork hates U2. And they're too busy copying stylus/ilm to have original opinions anymore.

[luke]

Pitchfork is such a joke. I think that amp's summation of them, the bit about how you never know why they feel the way they do about a song but you know they're giggling whilst typing, is spot on. They hate "big" rock, and they hate British hype. But they love the REALLY poppy stuff, because it makes them feel like they're this special part of "ironically cool" land. Fuck them, really, they should all die of "douche fuck who spends too much time in front of a computer trying to look intelligent" cancer.

Really, though. I look down on them as I do people who give Britney Spears credit for "Toxic", or idiots who think that American Psycho was "all in his head." Aggravating and ignorant.

[NdY]

Their numbers one and two were dead on. Not even fucking close.

And cry foul over PFork all you want, but they're still the best at breaking legit indie music on the web. Hell, they were smart enough to realize that the Killers are a farce, what more do you want?

[NdY]

Oh, and I'm fairly certain that the Neptunes did not have their hands in "Toxic". It is damn catchy though.

[riley]

I wonder if they've had their hands in Britney?

[riley]

I think Pitchfork are useful if you don't get hung up on what little wieners they are. I mean what are they doing that's really that different than what we do around here, but without sponsors and mandates? Most of us are just as annoying when we've just heard something and step up to the keyboard, it's just not our job.

They are in the know, which makes it easy to pick up on new and interesting shit we might not otherwise have access to.

Plus their office space is probably the one place in the world they can all congregate with 100% certainty that none of them will get wedgies.

[luke]

OKay, so I may come out as an ignorant cockface on the Neptunes issue, but still. Point stands.

[pattentank24]

Yes Pitchfork is pretentious,and Stylus right now is my favorite of the indie websites(except metacritic.com where you can read any review written or typed)
But look out how some little wuss like Rob Sheffield @ Rolling Stone makes his living writting puff record reviews about what they wear or who's dating who rather than just talk about the album,so all these "indie dweebs" do is write some overblown hype with a thersarus of big-words to back their silly little attempt to get-back at everyone who can't sit around and actually
TALK about the music they hear

I feel the same way about Movie critics when you find one who shares your taste,usually at least 75% you can understand where They're coming from even if you disagree.

I always find "in the know" to be a stupid classification for I-have-no-life-besides-what-other people-percieve-as-important behavior.

[pattentank24]

The Top 100 break down in 2 sentences or less
Yes or No on my list
100-81

100.Fischerspooner- Emerge
I like'd it better before hearing the 1,000th time and now I prefer their cover of the 13th (N)

99.T.I.-Rubberband Man
NO WAY i'm sick of this crap being popular(statement mainly due to my location in Atlanta you will hear this in every club at least 5 times on a night out) (N)

98.Fabulous- Breathe
It's alright but nothing worthy of this list at least it's not his Biggie rip-off "Baby"(N)

97.White Stripes-7 Nation Army
97? THIS IS A TRAVESTY easily one of the top 30 at least
but hey they ripped Elephant too (Y)

96.Eminem-The Real Slim Shady
Cute,Funny,Poppy not on my list (N)

95.Johnny Boy-You are the Generation
**raises hand** "What is This" (-)

94.Basement Jaxx-Where's Your Head At?
This is more like it a trippy funhouse dance romp maybe top 40 (Y)

93.Usher-"Yeah"
93? (WHAAT?) C'mon I thought the open was the new "Smells Like Teen Spirit" for this generation("LET'S GO) crackS my 100 barely(YEAHHH)* (Y)

92.Clipse-Grindin
So this is where the Neptunes Dynasty really got going
not on my list though (N)

91.Cameron- Hey Ma
Camron use to be a freestyle fiend("Glory") now he's the Good Charoltte of rap today (N)

2 out of 10


90.Black Dice- Come Toaster/Endless Happiness
DFA,DFA,DFA, rules but not enough to make my list with this one (N)

89.Kanye West-Through The Wire
Sorry this isn't the Grammys,good track not top 100 though (N)

88.TV on The Radio- Staring at The Sun
Genuis does anything this decade sound anything like this top 20 (Y)

87.Freelance Hellraiser-A Stroke of Genius
This is where my love affair of mash-ups began
Top 40 if I include Mash-ups on my list (Y)

86.Clinic-Distortions
OOOH Pitchfork reminds you their still Indie I enjoy and respect Clinic Not on the list (N)

85.Arcade Fire-Neighborhood #1 Tunnels
I didn't realize this was a single("Power Out"?) but it's a great introduction to Funeral for those who haven't heard the album Makes the top 100 (Y)

84.Dre-Forgot About Dre
Yep another reminder when your bored by a weak Dre track(Still Dre) he bitchslaps you with Eminem hungry on the mic Top 70 (Y)

83.Jay-Z-Big Pimpin
You have to wonder how sick that arrangement is while UGK get their only mainstream love as guest stars
Top 50 (Y)

82.The Postal Service-Such Great Heights
Was I the only one dissapointed they used Iron and Wire's version in Garden State than this? Top 30 (Y)

81.Kanye West- Jesus Walks
His Best Single,His best Work since The Blueprint with Jay-Z Pitchfork starting to hate on Kanye (81?) Top 50
(Y)

9 OUT OF 20

[NdY]

Patten, if you haven't heard the Johnny Boy song you have to go find it online. Like right fucking now. It's pretty much a Phil Spector homage done by two British chicks who, as far as I've heard, haven't done anything else. Lifts the ever famous "dum, dum dum ching" from the Ronettes "Be My Baby" (also famously stolen by Jesus and Mary Chain in "Just Like Honey"). Pitchfork had it at number 50 on their 2004 list, yet amazingly it made the top 100 of this list... I think it's brilliant, to say the least.

[Weeping_Guitar]

luke said:

and they hate British hype.

That sums up their crapiness, British hype is usually onto something.