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Post by NdY on Feb 5, 2005 17:52:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't go as far as to say that NME is dead on with all of their flavors of the month.
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Post by Reservoir on Feb 5, 2005 21:59:52 GMT -5
very true, and they may have been "the libertines weekly' for most of 2004, but at least they have the energy and guts to get off their arses and find new stuff. whether they're right or not is probably secondary to their willingness to wear their hearts on their sleeves. the very fact that they have flavours of the month shows a willingness to champion a band that you wouldnt otherwise see in the press for weeks, perhaps months.
for example, without them i can guaruntee that you wouldnt have that bloc party album you've been enjoying so much. the NME has the power to make or break a british band, and they made them, just as they made franz ferdinand and will make the arcade fire and the bravery in the uk where they are almost completely unknown.
they may not be the best UK indie rag, but they're the most influential, and i'd rather folk read that than Q, who named keane band of the year.
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Post by maarts on Feb 5, 2005 22:50:50 GMT -5
Toxic is a tune? More like a hysteric violinloop with a beat, capable of being performed by any singer who is not afraid to sigh and gush into a microphone.
Reservoir, if I may ask, since you mentioned The Libertines, have you heard any music of Pete Doherty's new band Babyshambles? I read the crazy interview Q tried to do several months ago with him in regards to his split with his former band so I kinda got curious- I found last years' Libertines-album fairly disappointing so is Doherty's new band 'better'?
Not that taking a dysfunctional member of a band out of the equasion is bad but how crap were for instance The Pogues'-albums without Shane MacGowan? Waiting For Herb....brrrr!
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Post by NdY on Feb 6, 2005 0:59:02 GMT -5
for example, without them i can guaruntee that you wouldnt have that bloc party album you've been enjoying so much. Okay. Most likely not true, but whatever floats your boat dear. |
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Post by NdY on Feb 6, 2005 6:05:30 GMT -5
Someone deleted a post. Who's gulity?
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Post by Reservoir on Feb 6, 2005 11:14:27 GMT -5
Ndy, you cant deny that the NME is responsible for building up plenty of UK bands and getting their names out there...what NME are usually accused of is turning on that band once they get bored of them. whatever, they've been championing bloc party for months and months now, building up the hype.
aahh, maarts, babyshambles. a topic i could chat on about for a while. babyshambles are slightly heavier than the libs, none of the fey harmonies and sweetness. harder guitar sound too. the album is due spring/summer around here i believe, but if they actually make it i'll eat my hat.
cos here's the thing. doherty is the only reason babyshambles are big. he's such a messiah figure in britain that any venture of his will be massive no matter how good or otherwise. plus, he's a hellraiser and a mess and not in the good way like he used to be. he's in jail as we speak after failing to raise bail for a charge of assualt and blackmail. in december he failed to show up for a gig in london and the crowd rioted, ending up in the bouncers fashioning cat o' nine tails out of guitar leads and whipping the bejesus out of the fans...that kind of thing. its all going wrong.
that said, if you get them on a good day they're amazing live. i've seen them on a good day once and they blew me away, but i've also been cancelled on. dont hold out for anything amazing from them...they're nowhere near as good as the libs and are losing members, cancelling shows, spending the weekends in the cells...it's not looking good.
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Post by maarts on Feb 7, 2005 7:57:27 GMT -5
I thought the name Babyshambles was well chosen for the band...acting like the first half of their moniker and subsequently describing your career with the latter part....
Wow, that never happened to me in a moshpit!
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Post by pattentank24 on Feb 7, 2005 15:04:14 GMT -5
Top 100 Albums of 2000-2004 is up by everyone's favorite Pitchfork.com and Radiohead bashers you've been warned
Enjoy,lots to discuss later
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Post by someone on Feb 7, 2005 15:31:50 GMT -5
That's easily the worst list I have ever seen.
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Post by Weeping_Guitar on Feb 7, 2005 18:18:41 GMT -5
Liked:
039: Radiohead - Hail to the Thief could be worse
021: Radiohead - Amnesiac this actually might be the Radiohead album I listen to the most, which is saying something. that is if you don't count my 24/7 OK Computer obsession a month back
016: The Strokes - Is This It love it or hate it, it belongs this high
008: The White Stripes - White Blood Cells super
006: Sigur Rós - Ágætis Byrjun hard to argue against
001: Radiohead - Kid A has any album been disected as much as this one this decade?
Dissapointed:
094: The Strokes - Room on Fire too low
089: Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand too low
011: Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot this album is THE album of the current decade, even 11 is way too low
OK:
086: Björk - Medulla I still don't know what to think of this
071: The Shins - Oh, Inverted World just bought this, probably about right spot
032: The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots maybe too high, i don't know, it's a fun record
Where the heck are they?:
White Stripes, Elephant
Bjork, Vespertine
Beck, Sea Change
Bob Dylan, Love and Theft
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Post by rockysigman on Feb 8, 2005 0:33:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure I fully understand how Funeral ended up so low after they named it the best album of 2004, while several other 2004 albums came in higher. Figure that one out.
And I still stand by my stance that White Blood Cells is the worst of the Stripes' albums. Both De Stijl and Elephant should be on that list somewhere.
Agreed that YHF is easily a top 5 record of the decade thus far, if not #1.
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Post by riley on Feb 8, 2005 3:17:22 GMT -5
 easily top 3. i'm afraid #27 just doesn't cut it. try again boys. that must just be their first rough draft. |
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Post by ScottsyII on Feb 8, 2005 5:23:08 GMT -5
I am about to peruse that list... should be interesting! As for YHF.... good album, enjoyable, but for some reason I never quite took to it as much as alot of other posters did... I'm probably not as much a Wilco person as alot of people here, but its a solid recording, and I don't think 11 is too bad a place for it... I personally wouldn't call it the best of the decade thus far, but I can see how it could garner such enthusiasm in it's listeners!
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Post by Dr. Drum on Feb 8, 2005 8:13:35 GMT -5
I liked YHF at first but I’ve become moderately dissatisfied with it over time and I rarely ever play it anymore. I like Tweedy/Wilco doing country, rock’n’roll, chamber pop, etc. but I don’t think they’re nearly as successful when they go for that Krautrock/noise thing...
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Post by Weeping_Guitar on Feb 8, 2005 9:00:34 GMT -5
And I still stand by my stance that White Blood Cells is the worst of the Stripes' albums. Both De Stijl and Elephant should be on that list somewhere. Agreed that YHF is easily a top 5 record of the decade thus far, if not #1. Shite, I forgot De Stijl was 2000s too. It's, of course, relative as to "worse" when it comes to Stripes records, but White Blood Cells is just a shot under Elephant for best with the other right just a nick under them. |
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