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Post by Thorngrub on Aug 31, 2005 13:18:21 GMT -5
All the better to balance out my wonderful life.
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Post by Rit on Sept 12, 2005 15:32:56 GMT -5
great board, Thorn.
i want to discuss William Blake with anyone who'll have it.
i fear an imminant rash of posts on Blake in anycase....
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 12, 2005 16:04:07 GMT -5
One of my favorite Star Trek original episodes is when the evil aliens with superpowers over people make the crew do all these goofy things. They make Spock crawl around and recite part of The Tyger. His voice straining, he starts, "Tyger tyger, burning bright... in the forests of the night..." That's about as far into Blake as I can go with you, Rit.  |
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 12, 2005 16:32:37 GMT -5
I guess it says something about Star Trek - just the fact that they expected the viewership to recognize the Blake poem. That episode also had the much-bally-hooed "first inter-racial kiss on telelvison," when the evil alien made Captain Kirk and Uhuru kiss (shocking!)
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Post by Rit on Sept 12, 2005 16:46:38 GMT -5
that's good enough, Strat-o  Apparently, all of Blake's poems are explorations of psychological states, or of seeing everything (person, idea, perception, it doesn't matter what) as allegory for the Prinicipalities or Daemons which govern human behaviour. Which is a really deft and sharp way to view things.... why? becuase, and consider that Blake views the following things as daemons... Bereft of memory/history, one's understanding of the way society evolves will be naive at best. Bereft of imagination, the world resembles only a Grand Mill turning its wheels, a mechanistic sequence of cause and effect. Bereft of a healthy spirituality, one's inner daemons will be pointed towards the so-called "small idols" and vague concepts of the beyond - so that all good intent will eventually turn to competitive cruelty of one form or another. (Blake doesn't spare the organized religions of his scorn - he calls them Tyrants, plain and simple) there's more, but i can't bring to mind all the different archetypes at the moment. --- Blake seems to me to be one of the most genuinely humanist souls i've ever read, tempered with Nietzschean insight (but not as dour as Nietzsche) as well as a Dr Samuel Johnsonian robust humour and love for his fellow man. But there is a severe Prophetic streak in him, which paints the dichotomy of Good and Evil a little too firmly. (even still, he's not as bad as the run of the mill Millenarians, because Evil is capable of Good in his philosophy) |
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Post by maarts on Sept 12, 2005 18:34:59 GMT -5
Uh...I got a Tangerine Dream-album which contain sung versions of Tyger Tyger, Smile and Alchemy Of The Heart....
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Post by Kensterberg on Sept 12, 2005 18:38:02 GMT -5
... which I would pay money to avoid ever hearing!
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Post by poseidon on Sept 12, 2005 20:30:37 GMT -5
Reading Volume One of the jewish mysticism known as...Kabbalah:  |
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Post by phil on Sept 12, 2005 20:38:57 GMT -5
Say hello to Poseidon for me, will ya ??
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Post by poseidon on Sept 12, 2005 20:46:29 GMT -5
Sorry about that Phil, decided to go with my birth sign (gemini)...that, and I don't have a beard... Next book to buy (when I save the $$$)  |
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 12, 2005 21:11:57 GMT -5
So how about you introduce yourself, Mercury, and clue us in as to any aliases we might recognize you by, or how you happened to locate the site. I really hate mysteries, and this one is going to be extremely short-lived, I fear.  Oh, and while I'm getting all highbrow with Star Trek, that's also the episode where Kirk gives a horsey ride to the midget (again, forced by the evil alien). It's a beautiful poem, though. But how does, "fearful eye," rhyme with " symmetry"? |
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Post by poseidon on Sept 12, 2005 21:22:40 GMT -5
So how about you introduce yourself, Mercury, and clue us in as to any aliases we might recognize you by, or how you happened to locate the site. I really hate mysteries, and this one is going to be extremely short-lived, I fear. Oh, and while I'm getting all highbrow with Star Trek, that's also the episode where Kirk gives a horsey ride to the midget (again, forced by the evil alien). It's a beautiful poem, though. But how does, "fearful eye," rhyme with " symmetry"? It is I Strat-O...the gweat and powerful PATLOGI. Thought I'd start posting again. Miss me? And for those interested in what your astrological sign and tribe might be (according to Judahism): Tribe Mother Mathers Halevi Judah Leah Leo Aries Issachar Leah Cancer Taurus Zebulun Leah Capricorn Gemini Reuben Leah Aquarius Cancer Simeon Leah Pisces Leo Gad Zilpah Aries Virgo Ephraim Rachel (Asenath) Taurus Libra Manasseh Rachel (Asenath) Gemini Scorpio Benjamin Rachel Sagittarius Sagittarius Dan Bilhah Scorpio Capricorn Asher Zilpah Libra Aquarius Naphtali Bilhah Virgo Pisces |
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 12, 2005 21:42:58 GMT -5
So, what happened to your board there at the end, when it ceased making sense? I don't think "patlogi" has ever been here, actually. Shoot me an email and convince me otherwise. Because you are not likely to continue here at this rate.
I think Rit was discussing Blake...
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Post by maarts on Sept 12, 2005 21:44:54 GMT -5
strat-0, I think the correct line is:
Tyger Tyger, burning bright
In the forests of the night
What immortal hand or eye
dare frame thy immortal symmetry?
And Christ- Pat, why not posting under you own name again? As if anyone wasn't gonna notice it was you after posting that Kabbala-stuff?
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 12, 2005 22:01:08 GMT -5
You're right, Maarts, but
"hand or eye"
still doesn't rhyme with
"fearful symmetry"
I think he was saying "eye" as "eee." Damn me for trying to rely on my feeble memory - of course I garbled it! Is that a Bowiglouism?
Tyger Tyger, burning bright
In the forests of the night
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
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