ClubberLang
Struggling Artist
think for yourself, question authority
Posts: 288
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Post by ClubberLang on Sept 15, 2005 20:37:46 GMT -5
yeah, it's all funny and shit but i'm serious.
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Post by maarts on Sept 15, 2005 20:42:05 GMT -5
So am I.
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ClubberLang
Struggling Artist
think for yourself, question authority
Posts: 288
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Post by ClubberLang on Sept 15, 2005 20:43:25 GMT -5
So would it make any difference to you if I say 'Sorry guys'? Even though I wasn't involved? And, about 140 other subscribers here? Again, I'd love to have you back and contribute. What's a trial or debate gonna resolve? What's gonna happen is just a repeat of moves made on this chessboard ages ago. Strat and Chrisfan are gonna argue that you had been warned. You are gonna argue the stupidness of it all. Nasty words (like the 'Nazi'-part you used earlier) are gonna get thrown back and forth. I doubt if anyone's gonna apologise. It's a game of one-upmanship which ultimately no one's gonna win. I'm not gonna get involved in anything further for it's not my place, not my battle. I can only say this: I'd love you all to come back. I'm not gonna take sides. I reach you my hand. I see more value in an in-depth description of the upcoming NFL-season than in using yuor energy for this debate. Whatever happens next, I won't hold anything against you. Please, consider. Great posts Maarts, i respect your wishes. I also respect the people here who aren't getting a fair shake due to "comic book posts". Sounds ludicrous right? Exactly. it's about time somebody stood up and said what was rweally going on here. I deceided that ui'm gonna fire the first shot. And i'm not even republican! I also want to know if it is worth posting here or not. If i mention the devil or spiderman....am i gonna be banned? If my avitar has an anti-jesus fish is it gonna be deleted? if i say that barry Bonds is still on roids am i gonna get repremanded? I want to be a part of this community but i also want the lines in bold so i know what i'm up against. I also want the otrher people here to be represented and their voices be heard. Cause a ton of shit that goes on here is bullshit. |
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Post by Rit on Sept 15, 2005 20:44:45 GMT -5
if you don't let Pissin back, who's gonna ride your wild horses to the zoostation to see the fly on the wall under ultraviolet light doing its acrobat thang until the end of the world? i know you're just trying to throw your arms around the world, but love is blindness and it can be so cruel. someday then, perhaps we'll see the return of the One, even better than the real thing, baby. Achtung!
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on Sept 15, 2005 20:52:02 GMT -5
I just think everyone should chill & either get along or zone out.
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Post by chrisfan on Sept 15, 2005 20:55:59 GMT -5
So would it make any difference to you if I say 'Sorry guys'? Even though I wasn't involved? And, about 140 other subscribers here? Again, I'd love to have you back and contribute. What's a trial or debate gonna resolve? What's gonna happen is just a repeat of moves made on this chessboard ages ago. Strat and Chrisfan are gonna argue that you had been warned. You are gonna argue the stupidness of it all. Nasty words (like the 'Nazi'-part you used earlier) are gonna get thrown back and forth. I doubt if anyone's gonna apologise. It's a game of one-upmanship which ultimately no one's gonna win. I'm not gonna get involved in anything further for it's not my place, not my battle. I can only say this: I'd love you all to come back. I'm not gonna take sides. I reach you my hand. I see more value in an in-depth description of the upcoming NFL-season than in using yuor energy for this debate. Whatever happens next, I won't hold anything against you. Please, consider. No need to include me in in Maarts ... I am only a moderator. No different than Clubber or you actually. I do not have the power to ban anyone. |
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Post by phil on Sept 15, 2005 22:45:42 GMT -5
If Clubberlang has been banned...
how come he can post ??
Now I'm confused !
For the record, your honor...
I don't care much for banning people but I don't care either for people who
employ obstruction tactics (like posting cartoons images) for the sole purpose
of annoying the people they have(mostly stupid)arguments with ...
As far as I'm concerned, I stopped reading most of Pissing posts
a long time before he was banned and will continue to do the same
if and when he comes back.
As for Clubberlang, he said himself he stopped posting here for more than a year
and I don't think we ever said a word to each other when he was here
but HÉ ! Like they say, "the more the merrier" ...
And this is the last thing I have to say on this matter ...
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Post by phil on Sept 15, 2005 22:48:51 GMT -5
I sure hope ~Layla~ will be Clubber's defense attorney ...
I can already see the sparks fly ... 
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Post by someone on Sept 15, 2005 23:58:32 GMT -5
I got banned for a month too. For saying jerkoff. I cried for days.
Quite frankly, I'm perfectly content just reading this board, and not participating in it most of the time. I post on CE mainly, and it's just because everyone on there is so freaking insane. It's the best collection of delusion I've ever come across. Sure, I get personal, and I call names, but that's my posting nature. I'm not gonna apologize for it.
However, I think it's obvious that there is a bias towards certain posters that don't exist for others. There was a backlash against an isolated group of posters who, even on the RS boards, didn't run in the same circle or have much contact with most of the regulars here. On RS, I had the Advice Lounge, I had the (dearly departed) Sex Board, Kath's football board, and the main boards for bashing louee and calling out retards. So yeah, most of the people here I don't know. But that doesn't mean I'm against talking to new people. I ventured here and there on boards outside of CE here, and was met with little to no response. Which is fine.
But you've all made Pissin some kind of scapegoat. He wasn't the only one who participated in Comic Events. He certainly isn't the only person who says "offensive" things. Pissin is a funny guy and means no harm. You wouldn't know that because you were too convinced he was a blathering idiot trying to stir up trouble, but I don't think he was ever sincere in his supposed "offensiveness". He found it funny, you didn't. It's just a dfifferent sense of humor. But jesus, I've seen rocdoc say some really bloody awful things to shin and vice versa. I've insulted stratman and chrisfan with sincerity. amp told someone his wife was disgusting and went on a personal tirade, yet, all of us still post here. But Pissin is the boards personal demon. Get real.
I've never understood why it was up to US, the outcasts, to try and make nice with everyone, when a lot of were met with resistance and indifference within the first week of the creation of these boards.
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ClubberLang
Struggling Artist
think for yourself, question authority
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Post by ClubberLang on Sept 16, 2005 8:35:43 GMT -5
I got banned for a month too. For saying jerkoff. I cried for days. Quite frankly, I'm perfectly content just reading this board, and not participating in it most of the time. I post on CE mainly, and it's just because everyone on there is so freaking insane. It's the best collection of delusion I've ever come across. Sure, I get personal, and I call names, but that's my posting nature. I'm not gonna apologize for it. However, I think it's obvious that there is a bias towards certain posters that don't exist for others. There was a backlash against an isolated group of posters who, even on the RS boards, didn't run in the same circle or have much contact with most of the regulars here. On RS, I had the Advice Lounge, I had the (dearly departed) Sex Board, Kath's football board, and the main boards for bashing louee and calling out retards. So yeah, most of the people here I don't know. But that doesn't mean I'm against talking to new people. I ventured here and there on boards outside of CE here, and was met with little to no response. Which is fine. But you've all made Pissin some kind of scapegoat. He wasn't the only one who participated in Comic Events. He certainly isn't the only person who says "offensive" things. Pissin is a funny guy and means no harm. You wouldn't know that because you were too convinced he was a blathering idiot trying to stir up trouble, but I don't think he was ever sincere in his supposed "offensiveness". He found it funny, you didn't. It's just a dfifferent sense of humor. But jesus, I've seen rocdoc say some really bloody awful things to shin and vice versa. I've insulted stratman and chrisfan with sincerity. amp told someone his wife was disgusting and went on a personal tirade, yet, all of us still post here. But Pissin is the boards personal demon. Get real. I've never understood why it was up to US, the outcasts, to try and make nice with everyone, when a lot of were met with resistance and indifference within the first week of the creation of these boards. A Fucking Men |
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Post by chrisfan on Sept 16, 2005 8:42:31 GMT -5
Since others not involved in this have offered their views on the topic, I'll do the same, and this will be all I say on it.
I've been banned from other forums before. I've had temporary bans, and permanent bans, for being too argumentative. I thought the action was BS. I thought that primarily because there were multiple people participating in being argumentative, and I was the only one banned. It indicated to me that it was okay to argue, as long as you were arguing points that the moderators agreed with. As a result of being banned, I quit going to those boards. My attitude was that if they were going to be run in such a fashion, they were obviously not running a forum I wanted to be a part of. They weren't my boards, and there were others that i could participate in that are run in a way I find to be more to my liking
I can understand your frustration in being banned - I've felt it. What makes absolutely no sense to me is to keep fighting to be a part of a forum when you appear to so disapprove of the way things are run. Internet discussion boards are not a democracy. Anyone can start one, and they get to set the rules.
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 16, 2005 8:48:36 GMT -5
Its about time someone said what someone just said. PIssin HAS been made a scapegoat here - cruelly, and unusually. I will say that the general overall index of 'posting fun' has diminished considerably since his banishment - - and its not simply because of a lack of his own posts. It is because of an extended, ripple-effect, which goes out to affect others (obviously not the few who are happy & smug about Pissin's banishment). There has been noticeably fewer postings around here, overall less activity, its just not as fun as it used to be. If forgiveness is truly a worthy endeavor, if forgiveness actually "works", if forgiveness is something the few in control here are capable of considering and implementing, perhaps you should give it a try, and see if it doesn't lighten things up around here, and bring back a higher degree of posting activity. And you know what happens after you forgive - - everybody then forgets. And its back to a normal, vibrant posting community stacking up too many posts across too many boards to keep up with. As it stands now, the trickle of posts that do come through are easily kept up with -- after awhile, it just gets boring.
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 16, 2005 10:34:34 GMT -5
Clubber, you've already gotten a full explanation by email, but you continue to refuse to accept it or just can't understand it. That's your problem, not mine or anybody else's.
This kind of shit is all you are interested in doing here, but nobody else is interested in it. I've explained before, you were not banned. If you were banned, you obviously would not be able to post here. There is no need for your theatrical "trial."
If you want to use the forum, by all means, use the forum. Do as others do and discuss anything you want. But for crying out loud, please stop with the bitching and moaning and histrionics!
As far as Pissin goes, my email address is widely available, yet I haven't heard from him. I have invited you or anyone from the Sedaka group to pass this along to him, yet my inbox contains no message from Pissin. This can only mean that he is not interested in posting here if he can't offend everybody and disrupt discussions. At least one member had left the forum because they were tired of his offensive behavior. This was disclosed only after Pissin was banned and the member returned. The consideration of other members must taken into account, you see, and not just the whims of a couple of disrupters.
Since you insist on an "explanation" and bringing this dead horse up yet again publically, I have edited portions of the email correspondence with you in hopes that you will finally be able to understand it. Please review the rules (which were necessary only because of Pissin and you) before you post again.
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 16, 2005 10:38:54 GMT -5
Hi, Clubber -
Here is your explanation. First of all, you are not banned, and neither are Someone and Kenny. Your accounts have been deactivated for an automated 30 days (Kenny has worked around that and as long as he acts like an adult, I see no reason to deactivate his other account).
Frankly, I don't know why you would want to remain a member of the Castaways forum. You hadn't posted there in nearly a year, and the first thing you do when you return is to insult the forum, then you go on to bitch about it and insult the moderators. Here is your post:
I was browsing this board and saw this thread. I haven't posted in almost 2 years. What would you do to get posters like me to come back to this slobitorium?___
[You then went on a tirade, bitching and moaning all over the place.] What do you expect, man? As far as "being warned" goes, after your post saying that the moderators here are nazis, I posted, "Care to elaborate? Read the rules first." [You then continued with your tirade and insults.]
I figured you didn't read them or didn't care. The only time you ever come here is to bitch about the forum and its moderators. You were "just browsing this board" indeed! Shmuck! You must think we're all pretty stupid. Listen, all I have ever done at this forum, ALL I HAVE EVER DONE, is to try to host a message board where people can speak freely and have discussions about just about anything, from music to current events, and anything else. That can't happen when you have a few people whose only goal and mission in life is to disrupt the discussions and derail the boards. Of the 100 or so members who are active, nearly ALL enjoy the boards and carry on in these discussions like adults (or on some boards, have fun like kids). Only a very tiny fraction want to try to cause chaos, disruption, and give offense to everyone. I'm sorry, but that won't be allowed.
I have very seldom had to ban anyone or even delete posts. "Vibe" is the only real person that has ever been banned (other than Pissin). Pissin has had some deliberately offensive and grossly antagonistic crap deleted before. I don't like having rules at all, but they are only necessary because of people like you and Pissin. But rules are not hard and fast. Were you to say something insulting to me in the context of an actual topical discussion, that would be an entirely different matter. But it is obvious that you caught wind of Pissin's getting banned and so you came over for the sole purpose of stirring up shit and trying to disrupt things. Sorry, dude, that won't fly. And Pissin will remain banned indefinitely.
I don't know what Pissin and these other particular crybabies at Shin's forum said, but let me tell you what happened:
Pissing went on a disruption spree at the current events board, posting large comic book pictures. The joke was tolerated for days. Many people, from all walks, first asked him to stop, then complained about it, then he was asked by the moderator, then told by the moderator, and then warned more than once. People with dialup could hardly even read the board. He continued, demonstrating that what he was seeking was to be banned. So he was. Since Shin's is a closed forum, I don't know what was said there, but I know what happened here.
Kenny was let back in, but then he started up with the same shit, and so he was temporarily deactivated.
We have a thread for complaints. They too, need to be civil. That's just the way it is. Everybody else seems to understand that, and they are happily discussing everything from A to Z right now. Most everybody is friendly and respectful to each other. We like it. Yeah, we have a few flame wars from time to time - Shin and Doc have had some doozies, and I haven't interfered in them. They are adults and this is an open forum. But people who want to try to destroy the forum will be shown the door.
I think you have some real issues, man. The whole Knight thing that started the Shin boards and that you egged on was completely unnecessary from the start. When it became clear what had happened, he was reinstated immediately, but you and some of the others just went on and on and on and on about it. I think you guys would be happier at Shin's place. You can bitch about what a nazi strat-0 is over there, and about how bad this forum sucks. If you want to post at the Castaway's forum, you will need to check your "anti-authority syndrome" at the door. I'm really just a regular guy, and a pretty nice one in fact. There's nothing special about me - I just used to post at RS.com.
strat-0
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 16, 2005 10:49:51 GMT -5
Rules
This forum is intended to allow maximum freedom of expression and enjoyment for all members. As such, many of the standard rules that are found on most forums do not apply here. That is not to say that there are NO RULES at all. I posted a standard set of rules on the Welcome board, which I borrowed simply as an example for those who may have never read any before. I have refined them slightly here, to better fit our forum.
It is up to the board moderator of each board to determine what is appropriate on their board. Please make posts that are appropriate to the board. You will find that on some boards, "anything goes" (almost) and that others are more traditional and stay close to a topic. There will always be some "off topic" posting, though, and that's OK.
- No spamming
- No posting excessively large pics, size or kb-wise. Try to keep it under 350X350 and a few kb, otherwise it takes a long time to load, which is an annoyance for those with slow modems. (Does not apply to photo or art boards. Actually, this will only be enforced in cases of excessiveness or maliciousness.)
- No excessive swearing and shit
- No excessive flaming
- No insulting the staff pertaining to board management. Constructive suggestions and criticisms are welcome.
- No porn and no gory pics
- No malicious disruptions of boards
- No insults to members on grounds of religion, race, sexual orientation, etc.
- No Santa Worship, real or satirical. Aside from being offensive to many, this can get the site attacked or shut down
- No assumed or 'fake' multiple identities for troll purposes
There is some flexibility to these rules; they are intended as a guideline. Common sense and courtesy are your best guides.
[edit: I made a few more refinements]
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