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Post by rockysigman on Jun 22, 2006 19:16:12 GMT -5
Everyone is accepting your viewpoint in exactly the same manner that you are accepting theirs. That's the point. Everyone here is accepting of other viewpoints, but only so long as the person expressing them is themselves fair minded, respectful, open, and not a complete dillhole.
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 22, 2006 19:36:48 GMT -5
PEW, you seem to have the emotional intelligence of a three-toed tree sloth. You've managed to irritate, if not out-right piss off, pretty much everyone who has had any non-musical discussion with you. Go back and read the responses you've gotten -- you're not engaging in any sort of mind-expanding discussion, you're baiting people to get a rise out of them. And then you try to hide behind this "oh I'm just curious and trying to understand you better" bullshit, which everyone here sees through.
Seriously, go back and read the responses to your posts over the two or so weeks you've been here. In the beginning, people were giving you the benefit of the doubt, giving you a new start (despite the fact that at the old RS you proved yourself to be nothing but a troll), and our reaction has become more and more adversarial as you've done more and more trolling here.
I'd love to have more diversity of opinion here on CE, but exactly what opinions have you offered? You've said that you absolutely oppose abortion, but have refused to elaborate your reasons. Every time someone tries to attach a position or label to you, you refuse it, but don't explain what your opinion is or why you hold it. Frankly, at this point I'd do more for "diversity of views" here if I let one of my dogs paw at the keyboard for fifteen minutes. The results would be no less coherent, no less illuminating, and fewer people would be pissed off as a result.
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Post by kool on Jun 22, 2006 19:48:30 GMT -5
"What you have effectively done, is to enter a party/meeting held at someone's home, and then proceeded to make an arse of yourself by spoiling the party for many of the people there and make it look less inviting to those peering through the windows. What we have effectively done is then eject you from the party. That you then want to invite a neighbour around to arbitrate your ejection strikes me as extraordinary." Sounds like an awfully good reason to ban someone to me. An individual has absolutely no right to go to a private web site and then just piss people off, which is what you did there -- and are well on your way to doing here. Who have I pissed off here? I look at it like this, if I throw a party I'm gonna want the people to feel free to express themselves. I mean if someone comes and just agrees with everything the host says, then that's gonna be a pretty fucking boring party. Bottom line is this... It's his party and he'll ban you if he wants you,
ban you if he wants to,
ban you if he wants to.
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Post by strat-0 on Jun 22, 2006 19:50:27 GMT -5
Ken, I once let my cat make a post at RS.com (really), and I think it was better received than most of PEW's posts. I'm taking the liberty of posting this here as well as at the Roe v. Wade Battleground at CE, just in case anybody misses it there (since this issue is cropping up in several places). Please direct your responses there, if you wish to respond, so we can have it all at one place. Perhaps I should have put the initial post here, but I didn't. So sue me. So the board admin acknowledges the guy is a troll? Well, as I said before, what constitutes being a "troll" can be rather subjective. I think many of us here have displayed at least some type of troll-like behavior at some time or another (some more than others!) That said, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck... PEW has exhibited many classic troll behaviors and tactics. On the other hand, we enjoy very broad latitudes here; all members are valued, and bannings are taken seriously and only done after several warnings, much consideration, and usually after many complaints on the boards and by PMs. If said "troll" provides more amusement than disruption, and doesn't break established rules too badly, I don't see the harm. I think some here haven't had so much fun since Tuatha's evolution thread (not that she is a troll - only her boyfriend is). Stick around at your pleasure, Paul, but be advised that after years of posting at RS.com and other message boards, most of the membership here are quite savvy to all the ways of trolls. The ones that don't already view you as a baffoon are coming to that conclusion quickly. Just be yourself, and not a "troll." Below are two links to some very good troll info: the first is from Wikipedia. It is rather troll-sympathetic -- I believe because the article itself is such a troll magnet that it has been toned down to the point of being a white flag, and trolls of course can edit it at whim. Still good info. PEW, please read this article and see if you can find yourself in there. I did, several times. Others will too. The other link is to a pretty good article from the author you cited. I found the link at the site that banned you. This info might be edifying to some of our members. It also illuminates some of the difficulties facing moderators and administrators in dealing with trolls and when members "feed the trolls." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_trollmembers.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm |
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 22, 2006 20:19:17 GMT -5
PEW, you seem to have the emotional intelligence of a three-toed tree sloth. Three-toed sloth? Seriously Ken, what's the point of these insults? What's teh purpose of these childish gradeschool playground tactics? Does it make you fell better to call me a name? Is that why you do it? Everyone is accepting your viewpoint in exactly the same manner that you are accepting theirs. That's the point. Everyone here is accepting of other viewpoints, but only so long as the person expressing them is themselves fair minded, respectful, open, and not a complete dillhole. Dillhole? What's with the gradeshcool playground name calling tactics? Look I accept everyone's opinion here. That doesnt mean i have to agree with it. And it doesnt mean that I cant express my own opinion even if it isnt the same as everyone elses. |
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 22, 2006 21:15:15 GMT -5
I'd love to have more diversity of opinion here on CE, but exactly what opinions have you offered? You've said that you absolutely oppose abortion, but have refused to elaborate your reasons. Every time someone tries to attach a position or label to you, you refuse it, but don't explain what your opinion is or why you hold it. Ken I said that I oppose Abortion because it is the destruction of human life. Did you really not catch that? |
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Post by frag on Jun 23, 2006 0:06:44 GMT -5
So is stepping on an ant hill, no? The universe is in motion! The soul exists!
Shut the fuck up.
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Post by frag on Jun 23, 2006 0:07:16 GMT -5
sorry, i been drinking
you're still retarded as all hell. though
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 23, 2006 0:09:11 GMT -5
I'd love to have more diversity of opinion here on CE, but exactly what opinions have you offered? You've said that you absolutely oppose abortion, but have refused to elaborate your reasons. Every time someone tries to attach a position or label to you, you refuse it, but don't explain what your opinion is or why you hold it. Ken I said that I oppose Abortion because it is the destruction of life. Did you really not catch that? Are you a vegetarian? Have you ever taken an anti-viral medication? |
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Post by frag on Jun 23, 2006 0:17:17 GMT -5
rocksalot, this guy really annoys me. Make him shut up.
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Post by Ryosuke on Jun 23, 2006 0:22:56 GMT -5
Ken I said that I oppose Abortion because it is the destruction of life. Did you really not catch that? Are you a vegetarian? Have you ever taken an anti-viral medication? A vegetable has a life too so there. |
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Post by frag on Jun 23, 2006 1:02:34 GMT -5
and if all matter has a consciousness, then so do the keys that we're all pressing to converse. bunch of serial killers, the lot of us.
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Post by shin on Jun 23, 2006 1:17:00 GMT -5
I already said, the answer is to wrap yourself in Saran wrap in an oxygen tank and never breathe.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 23, 2006 10:34:51 GMT -5
Ken I said that I oppose Abortion because it is the destruction of life. Did you really not catch that? Are you a vegetarian? Have you ever taken an anti-viral medication? Sory. I left out the word 'human' in my reply to Ken. It sohoud read that I am against abortion because it is the destruction of human life. As for eating meat, yes I do. I think it is our obligation as homo sapiens to preserve our species. Meat provides nutrients that man needs to survive. Anyway Rocky are you comparing killing an unborn baby to slaughtering a cow??? |
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 23, 2006 10:41:13 GMT -5
Are you a vegetarian? Have you ever taken an anti-viral medication? Sory. I left out the word 'human' in my reply to Ken. It sohoud read that I am against abortion because it is the destruction of human life. As for eating meat, yes I do. I think it is our obligation as homo sapiens to preserve our species. Meat provides nutrients that man needs to survive. Anyway Rocky are you comparing killing an unborn baby to slaughtering a cow??? Again, I don't think of a zygote as being the killing of a human. But regardless, I made no comparison anyway. I was just getting clarification on where you drew the line in the life that you value. You now have thrown in the word "human", but since you didn't before, at the time it seemed as though perhaps you considered destruction of all life equally. Do cows or viruses have souls in your view? |
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