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Post by tuneschick on Jan 20, 2006 12:07:58 GMT -5
Ha!
OK, sorry I completely missed the reference to the show the first time. I'm an ass.
I loved that show when I was a kid, by the way.
And I can't watch Fear Factor - I just find it repulsive and retarded. I remember watching the first few episodes, when they actually had more to do with "fear" than just the gross factor. Maybe they still have cool challenges, but anytime I've flipped by it they're doing something involving maggots or scorpions or drinking something repulsive. Ugh.
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Post by Galactus on Jan 20, 2006 12:21:15 GMT -5
This is way more thought then I want to put into reality shows. So I'll just say this, I hate the shows that are just people arguing, backstabbing or doing realy disgusting or demeaning things for some cash. Which from what I've seen is most of them. There are exceptions. I don't necessarily agree that the audience has to participate for it to be a game show, rather it simply has to focus on the competition rather then the relationships of it's contestants. There are alot of shows that try to do both, that why I say sometimes it's hard to tell the difference. The shows that clearly incourage the worst in people are the ones I have no use for.
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Post by chrisfan on Jan 20, 2006 12:23:09 GMT -5
Just for the record, when I gave the definition that I did, it wasn't a matter of "This is what I think it takes" kind of thining. It was a matter of the technical defintions between different kinds of shows that exsist for purposes of things like awards and union contracts.
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Post by RocDoc on Jan 20, 2006 16:28:59 GMT -5
Ha! Someone admitted that they watched "Rockstar'!!
Tunes, maybe you read what I wrote, perhaps at Random 10s or Influential, about the fact that these were actually (for the most part) proven performers competing at a pretty high level, with an absolutely kickass houseband who needed to imaginatively rethink tons of 'classic rock' songs as the show went on....and all I got was 'Fuck INXS! How dare they!' when my point was just to say that it was quite an enjoyable show SIMPLY FOR actually seeing rock music performed live on a TV show...and I saw perhaps 75% of the shows and admit yeah, there was some cheese and that Dave Navarro looked totally useless as this 'guru' of modern times helping out the 'geezers' of INXS...but past all the gladhanding 'I love you guys!', the music was worth sticking around for...
FWIW, I think Survivor is a far less worthy investment of time than '24'...and then add Rockstar in there too.
TRAVEL reality shows! Now that's some cool shit...Anthony Bourdain does a great world-hopping show ('Be a traveler not a tourist') on the Travel channel...and then Globetrekker, Rick Steves and Rudy Maxa are permanent on my DVR. Tho Steves and Maxa don't get INVOLVED in a destination the way the ofetn hilarious Bourdain and the Globetrekker's hosts do...
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Post by chrisfan on Jan 20, 2006 16:38:21 GMT -5
Anthony Bourdain just does great TV period. His level of honesty just translates well.
The difference between a Survivor investment and a 24 investment has much less to do with the quality of the show (for me at least) than it does the TYPE of show. Survivor, you can watch while doing other things. If you miss a week, you can watch a quick recap and continue on with it. It fits into your life like a normal TV show. A show like 24 or Lost requires more active viewing, and if you miss a week you miss too much. I love Lost, but sometimes it's hard work keeping up with it. I get thankful sometimes when they go for a six week break from the show. It's always been my impression that 24 is the same way.
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Post by tuneschick on Jan 20, 2006 16:45:40 GMT -5
Yeah RocDoc I seem to recall your comments on Rockstar on one of the boards, but I think it was after the fact so I didn't bother bringing the board back to that.
To be honest, I was one who thought that it was a ridiculous concept - especially for INXS, a band that I LOVED when I was younger, and a band that had one of the consummate front men, IMO. I still think there's no replacing Michael Hutchence, no matter what.
I started watching it more out of curiousity, but I was pretty quickly impressed by the calibre of some of the people on there... these wasn't American Idol, with compeititors just standing on stage, singing songs and being critiqued by the judges. They wrote music, they played their own instruments, they did workshops, they PERFORMED (they didn't just sing), and some of them had really incredible interpretations of the songs they were doing...
... not to mention that these were people already working (or trying to work) as musicians, not just random kids off the street. I was pretty impressed... and yeah, didn't hurt that the house band was awesome.
There was a definite cheese factor - Dave Navarro was pretty ridiculous a lot of times. But yeah, I genuinely enjoyed a lot of the music, don't care what anyone says.
OK, I'm off to the pub for Friday brew... see y'all Monday.
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Post by RocDoc on Jan 20, 2006 16:58:38 GMT -5
Yeah CF, I definitely can see that point...but that's what our DVR is for...though like I mentioned a few posts ago, having my non-English-speaking father-in-law as my evening TV-watching buddy after our Matas konks out...THAT has made me fall behind in catching up on the backlog of series I record (way TOO easily I admit)...
..and Tunes, even tho you're very likely 'out to quaff' already, I agreed with everyone that to 'replace' Hutchence is ridiculous....and that I fully believe that this show wasn't done with that explicit intention either.
It was for some publicity, it was to get back into the public eye so the 'Best Ofs' would sell several thousand more units...yet I still hoped that maybe the one guy from the band (perma-shades and the soulpatch) who co-wrote nearly everything good that INXS ever did, WITH Hutchence might get some of his creative juices back.
That fucker Hutchence certainly stabbed HIM in the back with his stupid 'exit'...however otherwise gifted he was.
I mean, there was initially just toital shock...and then these guys had to deal with HOW it was that Hutchence actually died.
In a word, undignified...very.
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Post by chrisfan on Jan 20, 2006 17:05:25 GMT -5
Doc, DVR only works if you make the time later in the week to watch it - actively. That's my point with 24. I have a full enough schedule each week as it is. I do not have any desire whatsoever to fill another hour with TV viewing. I watch enough as it is, and I want to have time for other things like volunteering, reading, playing tennis, etc.
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Post by RocDoc on Jan 20, 2006 17:15:40 GMT -5
No different than the 3 (or was ir 4?) VCRs you said you manually input info into...it's like the tree falling in the woods, unattended...when you don't ever watch a program you chose to record.
Same as that tree; did it really fall? Does your recording then really exist?
Like my father-in-law forcing me to make my choices, you make yours.
...and yeah, there is lots of stuff I record (with one centrally located step) which I allow to get recorded over...those travel shows mostly.
But ER, Commander-In-Chief(!)and 24 DO definitely get watched....oh, and the Bourdain show, even tho I think I've seen all of them finally.
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Post by chrisfan on Jan 20, 2006 17:47:39 GMT -5
You know what Doc ... I think I need to add you to my list of 24 fans who make me hate the show!  I figure the stuff that I tape into the time I spend watching TV each week. I DO NOT WANT TO ADD ANOTHER HOUR OF ACTIVE TV WATCHING EACH WEEK ON TOP OF THE VIEWING I ALREADY DO BOTH LIVE AND ON TAPE. It's that simple. Understand? |
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Post by RocDoc on Jan 20, 2006 18:41:50 GMT -5
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Well geez, I'm glad I made this 'decision' so clear for you, but I don't know WTF you're talking about...in terms of me trying to convince you??
I'm talking totally FYI, like small-talk discussion here...
You've made it clear you dislike the idea of watching '24' a good two weeks ago when it was first mentioned here....shit, I have no desire to convert you somehow, cos I KNOW it ain't gonna happen, poles apart as we are.
Sorry to disappoint you in the fact that I'm really not that thick. Sorry.
Really.
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Post by kool on Jan 21, 2006 9:28:18 GMT -5
And I can't watch Fear Factor - I just find it repulsive and retarded. I remember watching the first few episodes, when they actually had more to do with "fear" than just the gross factor.
I think the 'gross factor' is the only part of the show worth watching. When I used to watch FF, I'd tune it to see what they had to eat, and once it was over, I didn't even care who won.
I did like the couples episodes though, maybe because they went on for weeks and you got to 'know' them better. Great stuff. I loved it when that bitch backed out just before the final stunt because she couldn't handle being in a glass coffin with tarantulas.
Oh, and Joe Rogan is hilarious. Especially in the later episodes where he seemed to 'loosen up'. I don't know why he mocks that show though. I remember on one celebrity episode he ate a Madagascar Hissing Cockroach himself.
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Post by kool on Jan 21, 2006 9:30:24 GMT -5
Shows I never bothered to watch:
M*A*S*H*
Seinfeld
Twin Peaks
X-Files
24
Those are just off the top of my head. There are many more I'm sure...
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Jan 22, 2006 9:49:09 GMT -5
I'm a series behind on 24, so I have to come on this board with my eyes shut.
I'm delighted to see Hugh Laurie pick up a Golden Globe for his portrayal of Dr Gregory House though. He's come a long way from the foppish Prince Regent in Black Adder III, or playing a chinless wonder n Jeeves & Wooster.
House is the finest piece of hospital-based TV ever. Possibly the finest US TV show I've seen in a decade. Funny, dramatic, clever, sharp... and the irascible Dr House is one of TV's great inventions. Shame it's only a cult show in the UK right now, but word will spread...
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Post by chrisfan on Jan 22, 2006 15:44:19 GMT -5
JLLM, ITA on House! As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I haveabsolutely fallen in love with the show since Christmas. And I must admit, since his acceptance speech for the Globes, I've developed a bit of a crush on Mr Laurie. When you combine that humor with his real-life accent, you just can't go wrong.
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I figure the stuff that I tape into the time I spend watching TV each week. I DO NOT WANT TO ADD ANOTHER HOUR OF ACTIVE TV WATCHING EACH WEEK ON TOP OF THE VIEWING I ALREADY DO BOTH LIVE AND ON TAPE. It's that simple. Understand?
