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Post by Ryosuke on Apr 1, 2008 6:18:22 GMT -5
Doesn't happen often enough to discourage me from going to concerts.
Same as above. And if it happens, the guilty person will usually look so embarrassed that you kind of feel sorry for him/her.
Honestly, this doesn't bother me in the least.
I don't see shows at arenas.
Everything is overpriced where I live. Also, I usually see about four or five shows a month, and I still manage to stay solvent.
Again, everything is overpriced where I live. Plus, I don't really need alcohol to enjoy live music.
Yeah, bad PA can take away from a good show. Agreed.
Bands that bother hiring a DJ for their gigs usually choose good ones, from my experience.
If the supporting act is someone I don't care to see, then I'll just arrive late.
Don't these people usually take the second floor seats or something (assuming that the venue is large enough to have seats like that)? I'd much rather be down on the floor with the rest of the crowd, and I can honestly say that I've never ever been bothered by them.
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Post by skovrecky on Apr 1, 2008 8:34:17 GMT -5
Again, everything is overpriced where I live. Plus, I don't really need alcohol to enjoy live music.
I love you, dude! I've totally stopped drinking at gigs so that I can get more merch. I just smoke alot of cigerettes and drink coca-cola. It's much cheaper that way.
I still go to about 3 to 4 shows a week but I'm usually the guy followed by a cloud of smoke in the back, watching the band intensely and keeping on with "the lurk".
I hate arena shows though and I despise seeing bands anymore from the 90s "alt" scene. I went to NIN and I have never seen a lamer late 20s/early 30s age bracket in my life. Those people should go back to doing drugs.
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Post by Ryosuke on Apr 1, 2008 9:00:34 GMT -5
Okay, if I went to four shows a week, I'm not so sure I could stay solvent:)
The thing I hate the most about going to shows is probably how my muscles ache the following morning (if it was a physically demanding show, that is).
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Post by RocDoc on Apr 1, 2008 13:37:55 GMT -5
Ten reasons why I love going to gigs: ... 7. Bad sound quality is a relative thing at most shows; I adjust my position in the venue accordingly. I won't even bother going to a show if I'd have to be stuck in the nosebleed seats (unless I'm relatively certain I can bumrush the floor... which I've done on many occasions). The Japanese post-rock band MONO almost destroyed my hearing once - my ears buzzed for 3 days after their show -- but I seem to be back to normal, now. Maybe going to all these heavy metal shows (not to mention Pink Floyd back in the 80s) has strengthened the "muscles" of my hearing. I don't know; I'm still enjoying the hell out of local shows nearly every week, be they heavy deathmetal, or otherwise. ... ....- my ears buzzed for 3 days after their show -- but I seem to be back to normal, now. Maybe going to all these heavy metal shows (not to mention Pink Floyd back in the 80s) has strengthened the "muscles" of my hearing.physiologically and anatomically impossible, sorry. the nerve cilia lining the semi-circular canals in your inner ear get flattened out by that sort of decibel-age and the more over-and-over-and-over it happens, the blood supply at the base of each cilium get pinched offf. then they die. or if they somehow hang on they're ½ to 3 quarters flattened down, making them near useless for lots of very interesting frequencies that you useta distinguish pretty easily. and their death screams are the 'eeeEEEeeEEEee' of tinnitus. my sad realization of how badly i'd fucked up my ears with some pretty nutso volume, was when my wife and my bro-in-law were walking through some woods on a farm in the middle of nowhere in lithuania and they both stopped telling me 'nightengales! listen!' and i'm like 'really? no, i can't hear them.' and they wouldn't believe me because they were telling me it was the clearest that they ever remember hearing them...so they're like 'c'mon. listen one more time, THERE!' nope, nothin' but 'eeEEeeEEee'...fuckin' shit. it is really one of the more valuable things you have. watch it.
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Post by RocDoc on Apr 1, 2008 13:45:31 GMT -5
of course THAT brother-in-law is the one with whom 2 summers ago, i went to see judas priest (queensryche 2nd-billed) and who sat 8th row CENTER with me, with no hearing protection whatsoever.....
big metalliste back home in the 'old country' with lots of 'loud' under his belt, tho i've also got ten years on him.
the nightengale thing was back in 1998 however....i wonder if he could still hear them now?
hey, you wanna dance, ya gots ta pay the band...
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Post by Thorngrub on Apr 1, 2008 14:21:12 GMT -5
physiologically and anatomically impossible, sorry. the nerve cilia lining the semi-circular canals in your inner ear get flattened out by that sort of decibel-age and the more over-and-over-and-over it happens, the blood supply at the base of each cilium get pinched offf. then they die. or if they somehow hang on they're ½ to 3 quarters flattened down, making them near useless for lots of very interesting frequencies that you useta distinguish pretty easily. and their death screams are the 'eeeEEEeeEEEee' of tinnitus. my sad realization of how badly i'd fucked up my ears with some pretty nutso volume, was when my wife and my bro-in-law were walking through some woods on a farm in the middle of nowhere in lithuania and they both stopped telling me 'nightengales! listen!' and i'm like 'really? no, i can't hear them.' and they wouldn't believe me because they were telling me it was the clearest that they ever remember hearing them...so they're like 'c'mon. listen one more time, THERE!' nope, nothin' but 'eeEEeeEEee'...fuckin' shit. it is really one of the more valuable things you have. watch it. Hey Roc - thanks for this info man, really. I've always wondered about that. . . and what you say makes sense, and besides, I'll take your word on it. Just the thought of losing a portion of my hearing is enough to make me feel pretty sad about it. I wonder if I can hear nightingales sing. . .
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Post by RocDoc on Apr 1, 2008 17:54:21 GMT -5
it's happened to jac and it's happened to maarts....enough so that it HAS become a burden.
ain't a one of us bulletproof to that...
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Post by Ayinger on Apr 1, 2008 18:26:55 GMT -5
Count me on that burden list. Dave Hole, August 2001; Knickerbocker Saloon, packed house but a former employee of mine had a table right up front (and right in front of his PA),,,,wish I'd never taken the invite for the empty chair there... His 'steelonsteel' slide guitar madness rings in my ears to this day.
not fun.
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Post by RocDoc on Apr 1, 2008 22:07:22 GMT -5
oh, i sat on the side of the stage in front of the friggin' pa speakers WAY too many times too, basically i wanted a decent proximity to the performer and thinking 'aw it's not THAT loud...'
and oh yeah i remember being pierced to the center of my brain by someone wailin' an overdriven slide guitar....i mean to the point that i'd go fucking cross-eyed from the sound. it was nuts.
ooo! ooo....i remember going to a monsters of rock show at comiskey park with molly hatchett, thin lizzy, santana and journey where we went right to the stage, then sidled up along the stage left speakers (before the music had started) and then cut back into the packed crowd sitting on the outfield grass, til we found a group of people who were suitably mellow and who took us up on our offer to smoke our reefer with them if they didn't kick our asses out of there.
but it was SO-o-O-o-O fucking loud. i grabbed cigarette butts off of the grass and jammed the filters into my ears....
it WAS a fantastic show too.
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Post by phil on Apr 1, 2008 22:37:39 GMT -5
Butts in your ears ... YIKES!!
Being deaf from one ear, I'd always park myself at one side of the stage as close to the speakers as I could when I took pictures at rock concerts ... People always thought I was crazy ! LoL !
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Post by phil on Apr 1, 2008 22:40:50 GMT -5
Skvor ... There are still indoor venues where you can smoke ... ?
That's one thing I don't miss in small blues bars where at one point, you couldn't even see the stage because the smoke was so thick ... !
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Post by Ryosuke on Apr 1, 2008 23:59:56 GMT -5
I don't know about Austin, but I'm not sure if an indoor music venue where you're not allowed to smoke even exists in Tokyo. I'm a non-smoker, but I've never minded people smoking at clubs, and I think I'd actually miss it if was ever banned (not that that's likely). But then again, I don't really see shows at bars per se, so maybe that's different.
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Post by Thorngrub on Apr 2, 2008 9:51:53 GMT -5
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Post by skovrecky on Apr 2, 2008 10:34:08 GMT -5
Skvor ... There are still indoor venues where you can smoke ... ? That's one thing I don't miss in small blues bars where at one point, you couldn't even see the stage because the smoke was so thick ... ! Depends on where you go in Austin. Most of us don't really pay attention to the smoking ban. If you go to Emo's, most of it is Outdoors and most of the places where I see shows don't really care. I'm sure it will all change, soon though. Soon enough, prohibition will be marched back out and you basically will have to stand there with a glass of water and some seaweed sticks. They'll probably stop selling coca-cola because it will be "too high in fat". At that point, I'll just serve bootleg whiskey, grow tobacco, and do shows in my backyard. Because you know, everyone lives forever and no one ever dies.
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Post by phil on Apr 2, 2008 11:27:03 GMT -5
Because you know, everyone lives forever and no one ever dies.But ... Dying of lung cancer is an awful way to go ... Painful and slow too ...
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