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Post by Kensterberg on May 17, 2006 18:07:47 GMT -5
Once when I went to see Neil Young, on the Music In Head Band tour, the guy behind me kept telling his girlfriend they'd leave after he played Rockin' The Free World. I kept wanting to tell him to shut up, he isn't going to play it. Why would you pay 50$ for a ticket and hinge it all on one song? The hit even. It makes no sense to me. People like that drive me crazy. Especially with bands like NY and Pearl Jam...you should really know by now these aren't play the hits bands for the most part. If they do great, if they don't you still got a great show. If I shelled out $50 (American) to see Neil Young, I'd have to have some assurances that some or all of the following would make an appearence: RITFW; The Needle and the Damage Done; Hey Hey, My My; Like a Hurricane. If he didn't play any of those, my evening would be much less then complete. But yeah, with someone like Neil (or PJ, or Bruce) you don't go saying "they better play X" because the odds are pretty good they won't. I saw that in AMG's review of Springsteen's Live in NYC set, they bemoan the fact that Bruce didn't play many hits, instead concentrating on fan favorites. Hell, if that setlist was lacking in any way, I sure don't see it. |
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Post by tuneschick on May 17, 2006 18:12:56 GMT -5
That happened when I saw R.E.M. the second time too. They played a lot of cool stuff I didn't expect, and every second song I'd hear the guy behind us say "what is this?" (even to songs like So. Central Rain - only one of the best R.E.M songs ever - and Driver 8.) Then after every song he'd yell "What's the Frequency Kenneth!" or "Man on the Moon!" Think those are the only two songs he really wanted to hear. I just don't get it, man.
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Post by kool on May 17, 2006 18:13:11 GMT -5
I was way more than surprised when Frusciante got back in the band. Really? I think I always expected that to happen especially after hearing of Navarro's departure. I remember not being surprised at all when I heard of his return. I think at this point though, if Frusciante leaves again the band will split. He's left too much of a mark on the Peppers' sound, especially with the last 2 albums. |
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Post by kool on May 17, 2006 18:17:04 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever left a concert without thinking "oh, I wish they had played song X". Except for Bowie, with his vast discography, many classics are obviously going to be ignored, so he was excused. As were the Stones, although I remember wishing they had done "Under My Thumb".
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Post by Kensterberg on May 17, 2006 18:28:56 GMT -5
When I saw U2 the first time, I really wanted them to play Gloria and I Will Follow. They played 'em both, one right after the other, fairly early in the set. I was in heaven ... of course I was in heaven for the entire show, but that was the most I've ever wanted a band to play a particular song(s), and they did not disappoint.
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Post by tuneschick on May 17, 2006 18:31:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it's pretty natural to really really really want a band to play a particular song - but ONLY being there to hear that song, or yelling it out 60 times throughout the night? So wrong.
When I went to Social D, they played a couple of songs that I love that I never, ever expected to hear live. I almost cried. Mike Ness just reads my mind so well.
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Post by Kensterberg on May 17, 2006 18:35:43 GMT -5
R.E.M. is another band where I could care less if they played anything that ever got on the radio. As much as I love Man on the Moon or Losing My Religion, I'd be just as happy (probably happier) if they played I'll Take the Rain, Try Not to Breath or Bittersweet Me (for example). But if they did play So.Central Rain, I have to admit I'd be absolutely in heaven ... or beyond. Just like if they played Perfect Circle.
speak out sometimes, but try to win ...
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Post by Galactus on May 17, 2006 18:37:38 GMT -5
Once when I went to see Neil Young, on the Music In Head Band tour, the guy behind me kept telling his girlfriend they'd leave after he played Rockin' The Free World. I kept wanting to tell him to shut up, he isn't going to play it. Why would you pay 50$ for a ticket and hinge it all on one song? The hit even. It makes no sense to me. People like that drive me crazy. Especially with bands like NY and Pearl Jam...you should really know by now these aren't play the hits bands for the most part. If they do great, if they don't you still got a great show. If I shelled out $50 (American) to see Neil Young, I'd have to have some assurances that some or all of the following would make an appearence: RITFW; The Needle and the Damage Done; Hey Hey, My My; Like a Hurricane. If he didn't play any of those, my evening would be much less then complete. But yeah, with someone like Neil (or PJ, or Bruce) you don't go saying "they better play X" because the odds are pretty good they won't. I saw that in AMG's review of Springsteen's Live in NYC set, they bemoan the fact that Bruce didn't play many hits, instead concentrating on fan favorites. Hell, if that setlist was lacking in any way, I sure don't see it. He's played either Like A Hurricane or Hey Hey My My everytime I've seen him. If he's doing an acoustic set on that tour you can bet he'll do Needle or I Am A Child. I've seen him five times and I haven't seen RITFW yet...I've seen some killer versions of Cortez though...make you forget all about RITFW... |
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Post by kool on May 17, 2006 18:38:37 GMT -5
I am one of those who is not hot on RHCP funk era music, but love Californication and By the Way..the latter was my fave album of that year (2002?) If this is the case, I think it's safe to say you'll love the new album, since it seems to combine elements from both of those albums with a splash of BSSM, especially on the 2nd disc. You'll probably just skip 2-3 funky tunes. There's still another 25 or so for you to enjoy.  Todays SA favourite: "She Looks To Me". Really a fine track. I never paid much attention to it at first, but it really is a highpoint on Mars. Great guitars on it too. Almost reminds me of Bends-era Radiohead. |
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Post by Galactus on May 17, 2006 18:39:44 GMT -5
There's always songs I hope they play but rarely a song where if they don't play it the show will be ruined for me.
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Post by Kensterberg on May 17, 2006 18:45:32 GMT -5
I Am a Child is one of Neil's absolute worst songs, IMHO. Sugar Mountain is so much better, it's amazing that the two were written by the same guy. It also amazes me that Neil keeps putting 'em right next to each other in his catalog. Sugar Mountain is one of the best songs about moving from childhood to adolescence (and adulthood) ever written, but I Am a Child is a hackneyed, cliched version of the same thing. I'd get up and go to the lobby if he started playing I Am a Child. Well, I'd at least boo a little ... under my breath, where the Neil-nuts couldn't hear me.
Similarly, while I appreciate the guitar pyrotechnics that Cortez the Killer can bring out, I really don't like the song. The lyrics are a junior high version of the Spanish conquest, and just spoil the whole thing IMO.
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Post by rockysigman on May 17, 2006 23:21:12 GMT -5
I was way more than surprised when Frusciante got back in the band. Really? I think I always expected that to happen especially after hearing of Navarro's departure. I remember not being surprised at all when I heard of his return. I think at this point though, if Frusciante leaves again the band will split. He's left too much of a mark on the Peppers' sound, especially with the last 2 albums. I'm assuming that, at the time, you weren't aware of what Frusciante had been up to since he'd left the band. I think most people who had followed him since he left RHCP assumed that he was going to die long before he had a chance to rejoin the band. The dude was seriously beyond an addict. That video of that Dutch TV station interviewing him at the height of his addiction is one of the most frightening thing I've ever seen. There's no way that anyone who saw that would ever believe that Frusciante would ever be healthy enough to rejoin the band. |
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Post by Adam on May 17, 2006 23:40:04 GMT -5
I saw clips of that tv interview on the VH1 Behind the Music episode. That was frightning.
He really fucked himself up. I bought the recent issue of Guitar World that features a cover story with him. He bares his arms in several photos and they're so fucking scarred and abused from his addiction (and the fire he was involved in, I think).
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on May 17, 2006 23:47:26 GMT -5
After reading Scar Tissue (the Kiedis bio), I'm still amazed that he isn't dead. Its funny, that no matter how junkie-d up he was, Kiedis always looked healthy & robust. That boy has a good constitution.
If Alive had been the first PJ song I'd ever heard, I would've hated them with a burning passion. As luck would have it, I first heard (& saw) Even Flow. I don't know if it was the riff or Eddie's tumbling locks, but they hooked me good.
Of all the many gigs I've been to in my life - and I'm a gig whore because I can often get tickets for free - the band with the most consistent setlists probably has to be Marilyn Manson. You'll not walk out of their concert disappointed by the setlist if you like the band. Janes Addiction, too. They always have good setlists & deliver on the encore also.
Beastie Boys tend to sometimes waste their potential for an awesome setlist.
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Post by Adam on May 17, 2006 23:51:40 GMT -5
I've been wanting to pick that book up. Is it good?
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