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Post by kool on May 17, 2006 4:44:58 GMT -5
Yes, I prefer Mars. It has more standouts. I might include a couple of ballads after all to break the monotony. They'll probably be the title track which I really like, Hard To Concentrate and [maybe] Wet Sand. btw, love the new avatar.  |
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Post by Paul on May 17, 2006 7:58:37 GMT -5
Theres nothing ground-breaking here, whatsoever. Its kinda like a novice guide to the Chili Peppers sound for people who already have the greatest hits but don't know anything else about them. I don't see anything wrong with them sounding like they normally do. That's kind of an unfair criticism. Pearl Jam recently released an album that was praised as being a "return to form" [ie, sounding like their old selves once again]. Maybe the Peppers should follow their example and also release a couple of shit albums and then come back with another Peppers-by-numbers disc like Stadium Arcadium so that everyone can appreciate them for what they are once again. A fucking brilliant band and one of the finest America has to offer... I read a lot of rewiews/post saying Avocado is a return to form; I guess it kinda is, but, well, maybe I'm biased, but I don't think they every really lost their form. Binaural and Riot Act get blasted, but really those albums are both pretty good, they just take a lot of getting used to. The new album is kinda just more straight forward and doesn't take as many odd detours (aka fillers); oh, and Stone and Mike are really, really loud. |
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Post by Paul on May 17, 2006 7:59:55 GMT -5
I've seen Radiohead live and indeed, they weren't all that good. They didn't do "Creep" either. That pisses me off. That bloody song put you on the map you bastards and the people want to hear it. People paid to see you and they should get what they want. I hate it when bands do that... I saw Radiohead in 1998, they played "Creep"; it was their closer. They also played a mind bending version of "Paranoid Android". |
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Post by Paul on May 17, 2006 8:04:04 GMT -5
But dude, Alive is a really shitty song. So is Jumpin' Jack Flash, for that matter. I dig both of those songs. I used to hate 'Alive', but after listening to 10 a few weeks ago I found a new appreciation for the song. It's a little corny sure, but I guess it's the Ray Davies nostalgia in me which brings back fun memories. Plus the jam at the ending is fantastic. JJF isn't my favorite Stones' song, but I dig it; it's like quintessential Stones, and a rock staple. /my 2 cent multiple part rant. |
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Post by rockysigman on May 17, 2006 8:07:14 GMT -5
I'm finding different favorites every time I listen to the new album, but here are a few that I'm really liking at the moment, for what it's worth...
She Looks to Me
Strip My Mind
Slow Cheetah
Tell Me Baby
Make You Feel Better
Storm in a Teacup
Wet Sand
Especially in Michigan
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Post by Kensterberg on May 17, 2006 8:46:50 GMT -5
I'd actually be disappointed if I went to a PJ gig and they wasted the time playing Alive ... Evenflow would be fine with me, or Black (though I'm kind of sick of Black), but Alive is (still) bloated and over the top. Absolutely unnecessary, given how many legitimately great songs PJ has cut.
I didn't like Creep much when it came out (Barry Manilow does grunge was how I described it, I believe), and still don't. But I wouldn't get upset to see it in a Radiohead set-list. Or not.
Still haven't heard anything from Stadium Arcadium other than the single, so I can't comment on the main thread here.
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Post by bowiglou on May 17, 2006 15:02:47 GMT -5
I am one of those who is not hot on RHCP funk era music, but love Californication and By the Way..the latter was my fave album of that year (2002?)
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Post by Kensterberg on May 17, 2006 15:11:54 GMT -5
Agree with you on those last two records, Bow. By The Way is the best thing the Peppers have ever done, IMHO. Big late career renaissence IMHO.
I don't think I'll pick up the new one until it shows up in the used bins.
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Post by rockysigman on May 17, 2006 15:28:55 GMT -5
The new album has a pretty solid mix of things they've done in the past. Lots of funky stuff, but also plenty of songs in the vein of the last couple albums.
Out of all of those huge early '90s bands, how many people would have picked RHCP as the one still going the strongest (arguably) 15 years later?
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Post by Paul on May 17, 2006 15:38:47 GMT -5
^^^^^^
After One Hot Minute, not many people would've guessed it....
As noted before, I kinda like that album; it's not nearly as bad as most people/critics would lead you to believe.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on May 17, 2006 16:21:30 GMT -5
I was way more than surprised when Frusciante got back in the band. Still, while we all knew that the 1 2 punch of "Mother's Milk" and "Blood Sugar Sex Magick" was hard to beat, their last three records (I'm including the new dbl album) have been pretty ace. "One Hot Minute" wasn't as bad as everyone said it was, it's just the album that followed "BSSM" and that made it seem just awful comparatively.
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Post by luke on May 17, 2006 16:25:51 GMT -5
Plus, One Hot Minute came out at an awkward time in the 90s. Circa 95-96, everyone wanted their old early 90s heroes to come and make a huge comeback and reclaim music from the Spice Girls and Candlebox. Critics didn't want to hear One Hot Minute, No Code, Tiny Music...Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop, the s/t AIC, or Down on the Upside.
They wanted their heroes to return to form, and when ALL of them moved on in a different direction, people bitched and moaned. Even though every album I just named is top notch, and in some cases contained the best stuff those bands ever did.
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Post by rockysigman on May 17, 2006 16:52:42 GMT -5
That's a mighty good post, Luke.
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Post by Galactus on May 17, 2006 17:55:26 GMT -5
Once when I went to see Neil Young, on the Music In Head Band tour, the guy behind me kept telling his girlfriend they'd leave after he played Rockin' The Free World. I kept wanting to tell him to shut up, he isn't going to play it. Why would you pay 50$ for a ticket and hinge it all on one song? The hit even. It makes no sense to me. People like that drive me crazy. Especially with bands like NY and Pearl Jam...you should really know by now these aren't play the hits bands for the most part. If they do great, if they don't you still got a great show.
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Post by kool on May 17, 2006 18:06:03 GMT -5
Plus, One Hot Minute came out at an awkward time in the 90s. Circa 95-96, everyone wanted their old early 90s heroes to come and make a huge comeback and reclaim music from the Spice Girls and Candlebox. Critics didn't want to hear One Hot Minute, No Code, Tiny Music...Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop, the s/t AIC, or Down on the Upside. STP's Tiny Music... is ace! I didn't buy at first even though I liked the couple of singles because I made the mistake of reading mostly bad reviews, but when I found it dirt cheap I couldn't resist. I just wanted "Big Bang Baby" but I ended up loving the rest of that record just as much. As for "Down On The Upside", as much as I loved Soundgarden I could never really get into that one. There are about 3-4 songs on that that are top notch, but the rest are filler IMHO. Half of "One Hot Minute" is excellent, the other half is pretty noisy, and at times bland IMO. But "Coffee Shop" is still one of the best songs they ever did... As for No Code, I'm one of the few PJ fans who loved that one from the day I first bought/listened to it. I still think it's one of their finest... |
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