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Post by Paul on Jan 17, 2006 10:54:47 GMT -5
Choosing a best album of all time is damn near impossible.
London Calling is pretty close, as is Abbey Road, as is Arthur: Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire.
Personally I don't think choosing one can be done. I see and understand everyone's agruments for LC, White album, VU & Nico, and Pet Sounds; but IMO for best cohesive rock album, I'd say Abbey Road beats them all. My personal favorite is the White album, but as noted earlier, it's more like 4 really good solo albums, as opposed to a Beatles album.
Now, if everyone would go listen to Arthur, you may all change your minds as to what the best rock album of all time is....
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Post by Rit on Jan 17, 2006 10:56:21 GMT -5
The Beatles VS the Velvets (in a nutshell)
(*or a possible justification of why Rocky called the Velvets ahead of their time*)
The Beatles claims to godhood rests on their being the most universal and central to the “canon”. But The Velvets are even more universal by virtue of the fact that they embodied more well-rounded values.
eh? Okay, see… The Beatles were universal because they wrote catchy pop tunes, which is a convention that artificially empowers the musician(s), by creating a bracket around him or her and his/her relationship to the audience, via the gigantic Music Industry that mediates between audience and artist. So far, so good. This is the normal run of things.
The Velvets instead liberated all the fringe elements and were genuinely the humanitarians of the ‘Scene’, coz they made music as true to themselves as they possibly could, IN SPITE OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY…….. which alerted anyone with integrity enough to see it that here was a real spark of artistry and liberating music best expressed
….which has occurred throughout rock and roll history ever since, time and time again, scores of artists have referenced the Velvets for being the most important SPARKS to their IMAGINATION and the way they see themselves in meaningful ways.….. & Lou Reed still managed to be a highly accessible writer, no matter that he was writing the songwriting rules up from scratch with no reliance on foppish Tin Pan Alley shite
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Post by Kensterberg on Jan 17, 2006 10:56:23 GMT -5
WTF Thorn?
I saw those posts via the ten most recent posts page, and thought this was from the Best/Worst Album Cover thread.
Maybe you wanna put down some words to explain what this was all about?
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 17, 2006 11:01:22 GMT -5
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 17, 2006 11:07:02 GMT -5
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 17, 2006 11:08:17 GMT -5
WTF Thorn? I saw those posts via the ten most recent posts page, and thought this was from the Best/Worst Album Cover thread. Maybe you wanna put down some words to explain what this was all about? If you have to ask, you'll never know* * funky muthafucka... |
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 17, 2006 11:10:26 GMT -5
holy god. that's not exactly coherent, Thorn. what are you trying to say? What am I trying to say? You mean after posting 60 pics many of which are arguably fine candidates for "Best Album", you mean to tell me you're so daft that you can't get my point? |
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 17, 2006 11:12:05 GMT -5
The purpose of my posting merely album COVERS rather than muddying the point with WORDS is because I so happened to believe that was a PERFECTLY COHERENT way of making the point obvious.
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Post by shin on Jan 17, 2006 11:13:33 GMT -5
You mean 59 fine candidates. Korn does not belong.
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Post by Galactus on Jan 17, 2006 11:14:19 GMT -5
Thorn you seriously think Vapor Trails might be the greatest album ever made?
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Post by Rit on Jan 17, 2006 11:14:49 GMT -5
Paerl Jam doesn't belong either.
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Post by Rit on Jan 17, 2006 11:15:43 GMT -5
what, no Piper?
no Billy Joel?
no Opeth?
no Shania Twain?
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 17, 2006 11:19:10 GMT -5
Often we find there is a problem with the QUESTION and therefore my "point" is its DUMB to try and single out one greatest album. Not to get in the way of everyone's fun, of course, do carry on, by all means, I just think it's rather silly, is all. Said 60 albums pictured above only go toward showing this. I could easily conjure 60 more perfectly valid candidates for consideration - - lord knows I only touched upon my personal tastes. There's a world of hip-hop, rap, country, jazz, classical, punk, post-rock etcetera that I barely even touched upon, not to mention having skipped over entire generations of supremely valid candidates.
Where the fuck is my Johnny Cash? Willie? Jimmi? Janis? What about Bauhaus or Joy Division? The Who . . .The Stones . . . The Allman's . . . Steely Dan . . . Tchaikovsky . .. where's the early ambient pioneers-? Steve Reich . .. Terry Riley . . . . my 60 albums represent such a thin slice of the overall brilliance out there .. . . where's all the R&B soul greats on my list -? Otis -? Aretha -? Sam Cooke -? Where's the Grateful Dead? the Jefferson Airplane? Deep PUrple? Black Sabbath? Blue Oyster Fucking Cult?
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Post by Galactus on Jan 17, 2006 11:19:57 GMT -5
Thorn I'd say maybe five of those could reasonably be argued as the greatest album ever. Maybe you missed the first post, the whole point of this is you have to explain why you picked what album you picked. The whole point is the words. I'm tired of people calling an album the best ever and having nothing more to back it up then "well, it just is". If you're speaking on purley subjective terms then fine whatever you want can be, but if you're going to enter on an intellecual level you've got to have more. It's an academic excercise...of course there's no "right" answer.
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 17, 2006 11:21:17 GMT -5
Thorn you seriously think Vapor Trails might be the greatest album ever made? The reason I include it as a *viable candidate*, is because of this phenomenon known as "improvement" and "evolution" in dedicated and talented musicians. To entirely dismiss any competent musician's latest work may not be giving them entirely enough credit they may very well deserve. Hence the inclusion of such fine candidates for consideration as King Crimson's impeccable musical statement The Power To Believe. RUSH's outta-the-ballpark latest effort is no exception for such consideration. That is all there is to it. |
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