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Post by Paul on Apr 7, 2006 8:08:39 GMT -5
Rush had good songs? *runs for cover*how can a young dude like you, who loves mostly old guy music, not like Rush? Geddy Lee; can't stand his voice, can't get past it. Makes me cringe like the Doors make Mr. Holzman cringe.... I do think they are very talented, and have [for the most part] pretty good music, but I can't get past Mr. Lee's voice. Plus I'm not into fantasy, story style lyrics....I like first person, and/or political/social commentary. I know Rush gets into the latter, but they do it in a sci-fi kinda way, and it just ain't my bag. I don't flat out hate Rush, I just don't have the desire/interest to listen to them. Oh, I do think the music they pull off for a 3 piece is quite impressive though.... |
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Post by Dr. Drum on Apr 7, 2006 10:35:34 GMT -5
I can see that we still have much work to do here, Riley.  |
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Post by riley on Apr 7, 2006 10:38:13 GMT -5
i don't know Doc. if it wasn't the voice thing, maybe there would be a chance. few have been swayed from the Geddy Voice objection over the years.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Apr 7, 2006 10:42:04 GMT -5
True, but Holzman started off the same way and look at him now - ¾ converted at this point. |
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Post by Paul on Apr 7, 2006 10:45:09 GMT -5
One of my old roommates was really into Rush; I tried and tried to listed, but never could embrace them....It's been about a decade since I last bothered w/ them.
I don't think I'll ever get over Mr. Lee's voice. Music = Good, Vocals = not so good IMO.
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Post by Kensterberg on Apr 7, 2006 10:53:31 GMT -5
True, but Holzman started off the same way and look at him now - ¾ converted at this point. I wouldn't say 3/4 converted ... but I'll acknowledge that Moving Pictures is a fine record, and Spririt of the Radio is an absolutely ace single. Seriously, for anyone who wants to make the effort to get past Geddy's (gawdawful) screeching, Moving Pictures is the place to start. In fact, just stay the hell away from anything before Permanent Waves. Do that, and you've got a shot at being intrigued by the (albeit sometimes pointlessly) virtuoso playing. And for anyone who has ever wondered what the middle ground between Yes and the Sex Pistols would sound like, there's a bunch of Rush from the middle to late eighties that provide an answer. I know waaaaay too much about Rush for someone who isn't a fan.  |
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Post by Dr. Drum on Apr 7, 2006 11:29:19 GMT -5
The half-hearted swipes at Geddy’s vocals and the band’s musicianship aren’t fooling anyone, Ken. Very perceptive post. I’m guessing you’ve got everything from Permanent Waves to Presto hidden away in your back closet.
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Post by Galactus on Apr 7, 2006 12:57:02 GMT -5
When my brother started listening to Rush I couldn't stand Geddy's voice either, in time I realised I was just being picky. His voice is no worse then alot of eighties metal metal guys...I guess if you just don't like any of that I can understand.
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Post by Thorngrub on Apr 7, 2006 13:17:22 GMT -5
One of my old roommates was really into Rush; I tried and tried to listed, but never could embrace them....It's been about a decade since I last bothered w/ them. I don't think I'll ever get over Mr. Lee's voice. Music = Good, Vocals = not so good IMO. Give the new RUSH a chance, Cook. Geddy's voice has mellowed considerably . . . and their latest album, VAPOR TRAILS (a true return to form in this Rush fan's opinion), showcases the blunted edges of his voice, now several notches lower in pitch (presumably from having worn out his vocal chords over the years). In any case, I personally was gleeful at having listened to VAPOR TRAILS for the first time - astounded is more like it -- cuz the album is that good. I did not care for Counterparts nor Test For Echo all that much, to be honest. And those 2 albums stand out as pretty much being the sole exceptions from their immense catalog of albums. Yes, ol' thoRny here believes every single other Rush album is worthy of greatness, except those two. (And I'm perfectly willing to admit I may have not lent a generous enough ear to em; some have tried to convince me that Counterparts is really good; but I just didn't dig the "back to basics" sound of Stick It Out, it grated on me, and made me think they had descended several notches below par from their ordinarily progressive sensibilities. I.E, Rush ain't no "garage band" . . .) In any case, VAPOR TRAILS is an amazing recording. I absolutely love how Geddy decided to completely eschew the computer effects in favor of allowing Alex to showcase his extreme guitar talents: In lieu of the computer programming that graced their last decade of albums, Alex has been allowed to alter the tones and textures of his guitar playing, resulting in an absolutely solid rock music experience. Meanwhile, Geddy has been left to play that bass in a fashion that would leave even Les Claypool down on his knees in abject worship. Yes. It's about time somebody championed Geddy Lee as quite possibly being the greatest bass player ever in the history of rock. The man is light years beyond his contemporaries. I have no qualms admitting to you guys that I love Rush like no other band - - sure; I love Floyd and Korn and Tool and bunch of others -- Bob Dylan, Nick Drake, Eno, Bowie, T-Rex, Primus, Tom Waits, all these bands/artists inspire love in me. But for some reason, none of this "love" is quite as heartfelt as it is for the guys in Rush. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the 3 guys in Rush feel like freakin' uncles to me, like I'm their favorite nephew. Like they're part of my extended family, or something. RUSH was the very first live concert experience of my life. 1982, Moving Pictures Spring Training Tour, in Little Rock, Arkansas (where I went to high school). You could say they changed my life. Here it is nearly a quarter of a century later, and RUSH proudly holds the #1 position as the one band I've seen live more times than any other: 13 times baby. **Whoa . . . just realized: koRn has *tied* w/Rush now, since I just caught em last month for the 13th time, as well. There you have it. |
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Post by Paul on Apr 7, 2006 13:39:46 GMT -5
When my brother started listening to Rush I couldn't stand Geddy's voice either, in time I realised I was just being picky. His voice is no worse then alot of eighties metal metal guys...I guess if you just don't like any of that I can understand. I'll admit I'm picky as can be...but his voice just isn't that good to me... I'm not a big metal fan either; in fact I hate most of it w/ the exception of the first 4 Metallica albums. |
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Post by Ayinger on Apr 12, 2006 22:17:47 GMT -5
Here: this 22-y/o video clip should prove why "Anthem" is the tops!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmtuiCQYdOw&search=kirshnerReally about fuckin' priceless!! Check out the "stage" show here --- hell, you can even see Neil behind the drumkit he had back in the early 70's...... |
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Post by riley on Apr 13, 2006 5:10:16 GMT -5
That's awesome Don. Cheers.
Truth be told, I'm awfully glad Geddy's vocals did eventually level out, but even more glad they worked through the whole Zeppelin blues rock stuff they started with.
Let it never be uttered again however that Alex Lifeson does not deserve a place alongside all the guitar legends whose company he is so often excluded from.
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