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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 31, 2006 15:23:48 GMT -5
I can answer that question for you kMc and they are called Kraftwerk. Stockhausen? No. |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 31, 2006 15:25:02 GMT -5
Plus Silver Apples, Can & Tangerine Dream...Granted Kraftwerk did something vastly different with it but to say they are without influences is kind stupid. Um, dude, you can say that for Early Kraftwerk(like EP 1 and 2) but the beast of "Autobahn" and there on is pretty much all them. From them inventing their own instruments and technologies all the way up to their songwriting, it was pretty much wholly them. To my ears they just didn't sound like any body else. I think it says something as well when in 2006, a full 30 years later, you are still being sampled to the hilt and making hits for Missy Elliott. |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 31, 2006 15:26:40 GMT -5
I think also the reason why you don't hear Beck in bands is because it would be so recognizable.
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Post by samplestiltskin on Oct 31, 2006 15:39:51 GMT -5
thorn - i can absolutely see beck putting forth new material that will enhance his impact on music. i don't really think of him as a 90s phenomenon at all.
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 31, 2006 17:03:37 GMT -5
Yep, he's still mixin that bitches brew, for realz
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 31, 2006 17:04:05 GMT -5
In a very real sense - - Beck's importance goes way beyond the 90s. Which is more than you can say for most 90s acts (straightup).
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Post by sisyphus on Nov 1, 2006 0:24:00 GMT -5
Murmer influenced the sound of a great many bands (though no one ever exactly copied it). It also broke open the burgeoning scene in Athens and up through the Carolinas. Bands like Let's Active and Love Tractor got deals in large part b/c of R.E.M.'s (relative) success. And just as (if not more) significantly, R.E.M. showed that a band could be on a "minor-major" label (IRS) and maintain their creative integrity. R.E.M. were also one of the stalwarts of eighties college radio -- indeed, the format owed a huge debt to the band. These are all objective measures which quantify Murmer's importance. It marks a signpost for the beginning of what we would now call the American indie scene. Without Murmer (and R.E.M. in general) you don't get Pavement, Dinosaur, Jr., and bunches of others. That is "importance." oh how i worshiped R.E.M. back in the day.... 'specially document. |
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Post by sisyphus on Nov 1, 2006 0:26:11 GMT -5
i love beck.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Nov 1, 2006 18:57:49 GMT -5
Man, I just found "Green" on vinyl the other day and man, what a very great record. It might be my favorite record of the entire REM catalog. Every single song on that album is just stellar.
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Post by Ryosuke on Nov 1, 2006 22:11:54 GMT -5
This thread has convinced me that I'm not a music geek. I have absolutely zero interest in whether a band is "important" or not, so that means that I am in fact not a geek, but a well-adjusted member of society. So what if I spend hundreds of dollars on music every month, I'm still not a geek. Hell yeah.
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Post by Kensterberg on Nov 1, 2006 22:17:44 GMT -5
You're a geek, too, Ryo. You're in denial, but you're still a geek.
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Post by Kensterberg on Nov 1, 2006 22:20:53 GMT -5
Man, I just found "Green" on vinyl the other day and man, what a very great record. It might be my favorite record of the entire REM catalog. Every single song on that album is just stellar. It's nice to hear someone else say that Green is a great record. "You Are the Everything" and "Hairshirt" are among my favorite R.E.M. ballads, and "Orange Crush" is one of my fave rockers from them. |
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Post by Ryosuke on Nov 1, 2006 22:24:58 GMT -5
Green's great. I actually thought you were one of its haters, Ken. Who was it then? JAC?
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Post by Kensterberg on Nov 1, 2006 22:30:25 GMT -5
The only R.E.M. album I don't love is Around the Sun ... which is truly awful. All the rest have at least some parts I simply adore. Some days I like Green even more than I like Document. Other days it's the other way 'round. But I love both of 'em.  |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Nov 1, 2006 23:04:35 GMT -5
"Orange Crush" used to give me nightmares when I first heard it. It's one of the creepiest songs I have ever heard with one of the best rhythm sections on a track anywhere. One of the things that I really love about the album is Stipe's performance. I really just feel like that was the height of his powers as their front man.
Dude, Ryosuke, I hate to break this to you but you are a total geek. You are one of us, man. Don't forget it. ;D
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