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Post by maarts on Apr 2, 2006 4:13:06 GMT -5
Oh dolly, love your buns!  |
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Post by dolly on Apr 2, 2006 8:22:53 GMT -5
Christ on a crossed bun girl, now he’ll really get a complex! ^^^^ Nah see! - thrust a pair of sticky warm buns in a guys face and he can't stay mad for long. |
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Post by phil on Apr 2, 2006 10:06:50 GMT -5
^^^^^^^
I'm probably reading way much more than I should with this
But either way I have to agree !!
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Post by poseidon on Apr 2, 2006 14:09:13 GMT -5
Where is Mr. T? heh heh heh...
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Post by poseidon on Apr 2, 2006 14:09:48 GMT -5
Christ on a crossed bun girl, now he’ll really get a complex! ^^^^ Nah see! - thrust a pair of sticky warm buns in a guys face and he can't stay mad for long. Have an egg roll... |
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Post by phil on Apr 15, 2006 8:52:47 GMT -5
B&B law sparks Bible backlash
Denis Campbell, social affairs correspondent
Sunday March 26, 2006
The Observer
When the Government decided to outlaw people being discriminated against because of their religion or sexuality, it hoped the move would guarantee equal treatment for all of Britain's increasingly diverse population.
But nobody in Whitehall foresaw the backlash that would unfold when hundreds of committed Christians who run bed-and-breakfasts were deprived of their right to ban gays, unmarried couples and people of other faiths from staying under their roof.
Hundreds of B&B owners across the country have been writing to ministers complaining that the new rules will force them to 'betray God' and their consciences by allowing 'undesirables' to enjoy their hospitality.
'We've had a lot of correspondence from Christian B&B operators who don't want to be forced to accept Satanists, Muslims, gays and even unmarried couples as guests,' said a Home Office official. 'Protestants have been writing in saying they shouldn't have to admit Catholics because they have an issue with their religion, Catholics saying they didn't want Jews under their roof and objections from followers of other types of faith.'
The Department of Trade and Industry, which sponsored the Equality Act, has also received scores of written protests. Under the legislation passed last October providers of services to the public will not be able to refuse to deal with individuals or groups because of their religion or sexual orientation. Christian groups are demanding an exemption.
Dr Don Horrocks of the Evangelical Alliance, which represents about one million Christians in the Anglican, Baptist and other faiths, said : 'The Equality Act is being called "the bed-and-breakfast law". One B&B worker in the north has told me that he would rather cease operating than have gays staying in his house.
'Homosexuals have human rights, but so do religious people, and potentially there's a clash between them.'
The new protection for gays and lesbians is partly inspired by the case of Tom Forrest, the proprietor of the Cromasaig B&B in the Highlands, who, in 2004, refused to let two gay men share a bed in a double room. Forrest has condemned the new regulations as 'atrocious'.
A DTI spokeswoman said: 'The idea that you could say to someone "I don't like black people in my shop" is ridiculous and illegal, so why should that not be the same for religion or sexuality? We live in a modern society where people of all different religions, colours and sexuality are entitled to their human rights.'
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Post by phil on Apr 15, 2006 8:53:11 GMT -5
Satanists ... ??
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Post by poseidon on Apr 15, 2006 9:49:36 GMT -5
B&B law sparks Bible backlash Denis Campbell, social affairs correspondent Sunday March 26, 2006 The Observer When the Government decided to outlaw people being discriminated against because of their religion or sexuality, it hoped the move would guarantee equal treatment for all of Britain's increasingly diverse population. But nobody in Whitehall foresaw the backlash that would unfold when hundreds of committed Christians who run bed-and-breakfasts were deprived of their right to ban gays, unmarried couples and people of other faiths from staying under their roof. Hundreds of B&B owners across the country have been writing to ministers complaining that the new rules will force them to 'betray God' and their consciences by allowing 'undesirables' to enjoy their hospitality.
'We've had a lot of correspondence from Christian B&B operators who don't want to be forced to accept Satanists, Muslims, gays and even unmarried couples as guests,' said a Home Office official. 'Protestants have been writing in saying they shouldn't have to admit Catholics because they have an issue with their religion, Catholics saying they didn't want Jews under their roof and objections from followers of other types of faith.'The Department of Trade and Industry, which sponsored the Equality Act, has also received scores of written protests. Under the legislation passed last October providers of services to the public will not be able to refuse to deal with individuals or groups because of their religion or sexual orientation. Christian groups are demanding an exemption. Dr Don Horrocks of the Evangelical Alliance, which represents about one million Christians in the Anglican, Baptist and other faiths, said : 'The Equality Act is being called "the bed-and-breakfast law". One B&B worker in the north has told me that he would rather cease operating than have gays staying in his house. 'Homosexuals have human rights, but so do religious people, and potentially there's a clash between them.' The new protection for gays and lesbians is partly inspired by the case of Tom Forrest, the proprietor of the Cromasaig B&B in the Highlands, who, in 2004, refused to let two gay men share a bed in a double room. Forrest has condemned the new regulations as 'atrocious'. A DTI spokeswoman said: 'The idea that you could say to someone "I don't like black people in my shop" is ridiculous and illegal, so why should that not be the same for religion or sexuality? We live in a modern society where people of all different religions, colours and sexuality are entitled to their human rights.' People need to learn to "live in the moment." Life's too short for these types of discriminations (and that is what it really boils down to religious or not.) I wonder what the zealous will do the day they meet their maker? |
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Post by melon1 on Apr 15, 2006 16:01:36 GMT -5
Accepting gay couples at a bed and breakfest is equivalent to allowing gay sex at your place. If there were some way to garantuee that gay sex didn't take place at Christian bed and breakfasts then I think it would be actually wonderful, actually necessary, to accept them in. Look, Christians, most of us, believe homosexuality is forbidden by God and proclaimed as a sin by Him. Is that OK? It's as if people who run a Christian "half-way house" have to allow people to continue drinking and drugging after coming under their roof. Even though I hoped to never have to return to this subject, such articles make it damn near impossible. When we normalize homosexuality, then people are forced to respect and be confronted by it. Or "tolerate" it, would no doubt be the correct terminology for the typical leftist. Since "tolerance" is such an admirable trait with a daily changing definition. Why do people have to make things so damn difficult? Is it possible that there would be less actual hate towards homosexuals, rather than simple disapproval of their lifestyle like I posses, if they didn't insist on shoving their "lifestyle" down the throats of people who don't want to be confronted with it?
Then comes the whole demonic theory of "that would be the same as saying you don't want to be confronted with black people and your prejudice shouldn't be respected in any degree." Do you see how crazy things have gotten? Am I making any sense here? If not, lemme know where I went wrong.
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Post by phil on Apr 15, 2006 16:10:52 GMT -5
Am I making any sense here?
Aboslutely-none-what-so-ever !!
Doesn't matter as long as you don't open any B&B ...
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Post by rockysigman on Apr 15, 2006 16:12:08 GMT -5
How is a gay couple on vacation needing a place to crash at night "shoving their lifestyles down [anyone's] throat"? Most instances in which I hear people complaining that the gay "lifestyle" is somehow being forced on people are really matters of gay people trying to live normal lives. The only way, in some people's views, that homosexuality would not be shoved down anyone's throat is if it was completely hidden, and they could pretend it didn't exist.
I don't want Evangelical Christian dogma shoved down my throat. And yet if I demanded that people stop expressing their religious views in my presence so that I could pretend they didn't exist, wouldn't that be wrong?
I'm not saying gay people should be fucking in the middle of the streets. I'm just saying two gay guys having brunch together, and maybe even enjoying spending time in public together, is not shoving anything down anyone's throats, it's just two people living their lives.
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Post by rockysigman on Apr 15, 2006 16:17:43 GMT -5
I guess business owners have the right to turn away whoever they choose. But it doesn't mean they aren't bigots.
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Post by chrisfan on Apr 15, 2006 18:27:55 GMT -5
I won't even touch on the notion that the majority of Christians believe that homosexuality is forbidden by God, and how exactly you concluded that. I am absolutely baffled at the notion that inn keepers, or anyone else, believes it is possible to prevent sin from happening under their roof. I don't do a very good job of making sure it doesn't happen under my own roof - and I live by myself and don't run an B&B.
What do the B&B owners do to ensure that unmarried couples aren't having sex in their inns? If we accept that your views, T, are the norm for Christians, what do they do to ensure that married couples are not engaging in oral sex in their inns? Do they do a count of soaps, towels, and bathrobes before checkout to make sure there is no stealing going on? What measures are taken for families occupying rooms to ensure the kids are obeying their parents?
It is absolutely ludicrous to believe that anyone can wage enough control over their own home let alonea B&B to make sure it is a sin free zone.
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Post by Galactus on Apr 15, 2006 18:55:29 GMT -5
Fantastic points. It's a sham. Rocky's right, until homosexuals are repressed and shamed to point that no one has to publicly acknowldge they exist they will complain about it being shoved down their throats.
Do we need two threads for this?
I hope no one at the inn likes the buttsexin.
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Post by poseidon on Apr 15, 2006 19:25:17 GMT -5
I won't even touch on the notion that the majority of Christians believe that homosexuality is forbidden by God, and how exactly you concluded that. I am absolutely baffled at the notion that inn keepers, or anyone else, believes it is possible to prevent sin from happening under their roof. I don't do a very good job of making sure it doesn't happen under my own roof - and I live by myself and don't run an B&B. What do the B&B owners do to ensure that unmarried couples aren't having sex in their inns? If we accept that your views, T, are the norm for Christians, what do they do to ensure that married couples are not engaging in oral sex in their inns? Do they do a count of soaps, towels, and bathrobes before checkout to make sure there is no stealing going on? What measures are taken for families occupying rooms to ensure the kids are obeying their parents? It is absolutely ludicrous to believe that anyone can wage enough control over their own home let alonea B&B to make sure it is a sin free zone. I confess...I once stole a terry cloth robe from the Hilton... |
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