JACkory
Struggling Artist
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Post by JACkory on Nov 29, 2005 9:31:26 GMT -5
[sarcasm]Oh...that makes sense. The pitfalls of C&P. For some reason I was expecting an actual response to the post itself...as I'm pretty sure melon was well aware of the unorthodox syntax of the article and was in no need of a proofreader's grammatical advice. After all, it is time consuming to edit a poorly written cut-and-pasted article... Silly me for not gettin' it...[/sarcasm]
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Post by Kensterberg on Nov 29, 2005 9:40:53 GMT -5
Not to belabor the point, but this is actually one of the big problems I see in my students' papers. I've had students hand in work where a single paragraph goes on for a page and a half! It's crazy, I tell ya.
One of my old Prof's used to say that a perfect paragraph would have only three sentences: topic, body, conclusion. According to him, if you had more than five or (at most) six sentences together, you really had multiple paragraphs, or were being extremely redundant. Very few people can write more than five sentences that are actually on the same topic.
While this stuff sounds silly, I've found that it's actually quite effective in practice. Editing paragraphs for length is something that I always do with work I'm turning in -- whether it is for court or academic purposes. I don't always do it with posts here, simply because it would be too much work if I'm rushed for time. As Abraham Lincoln is reported to have written, "I'd have written you a shorter letter but I didn't have time."
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JACkory
Struggling Artist
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Post by JACkory on Nov 29, 2005 10:21:02 GMT -5
Yeah, that's cool. I was just hoping to make the point that when someone posts messages on the boards, they deserve a response, not a grammar lesson. That said, I confess that I have made posts that were little more than nagging about certain posters' propensity to cut-and-paste the opinions of others as a shortcut to making an effort to express their opinions in their own words. I don't know that if that falls under the same umbrella and means I should take a dose of my own medicine, but whether it does or not I just felt like saying what was on my mind. Peace.
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 29, 2005 10:26:16 GMT -5
I have missed out on the last "X"-amount of pages/postings, and you know what - ? - @this moment, I don't particularly care to gloss over them, or catch up. Perhaps, should it become necessary in a future exchange, I will be forced to do so. Until then, I am just popping in here to say "Hi".
"Hi"
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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 29, 2005 10:55:55 GMT -5
Heh. Maybe if we were discussing Geber you might take more of an interest.
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Post by kmc on Nov 29, 2005 12:53:07 GMT -5
I'm going to buy this tomorrow, thanks ken. If you do get this, DED, pick up December's Harper's magazine for the companion piece and criticism. Let me know how you like it. I'll probably get a copy sooner or later.
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Post by shin on Nov 29, 2005 13:27:58 GMT -5
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Post by poseidon on Nov 29, 2005 13:35:05 GMT -5
Fanny Crosby, the dear blind sister who has helped millions to see, [also]wrote these words in 1869:"If you don't put a few spaces here and there and a couple of judiciously placed paragraphs in your text nobody will be able to read the damn thing." Fanny, of course, being blind, had no such problem ... LOL. Ha.
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 29, 2005 14:20:40 GMT -5
Heh. Maybe if we were discussing Geber you might take more of an interest. I stopped eating baby food a few generations ago. * * please duly note misuse of sarcasm
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Post by Rit on Nov 29, 2005 22:36:18 GMT -5
i'm here to send out a sincere apology to JAC.
i haven't read any of the prior pages, i don't really want to see what was talked about today (or yesterday). This religion topic is like playing with fire.
so, this is a sorry for acting like a jerk.
also, Patlogi is a twit.
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Post by Kensterberg on Nov 29, 2005 22:39:25 GMT -5
i'm here to send out a sincere apology to JAC. i haven't read any of the prior pages, i don't really want to see what was talked about today (or yesterday). This religion topic is like playing with fire. so, this is a sorry for acting like a jerk. also, Patlogi is a twit. Very cool of you Rit. At least IMHO.
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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 30, 2005 0:28:20 GMT -5
You mesmerize slowly Till I can't believe my eyes Ecstasy controls me What you give just serves me right
Without warning you're here Like magic you appear I taste the fear
I'm so afraid But I still feed the flame
In the night Come to me You know I want your Touch of Evil In the night Please set me free I can't resist a Touch of Evil
Aroused with desire You put me in a trance A vision of fire I never had a chance
A dark angel of sin Preying deep from within Come take me in
I'm so afraid But I still feed the flame
In the night Come to me You know I want your Touch of Evil In the night Please set me free I can't resist a Touch of Evil
Arousing me now with a sense of desire Possessing my soul till my body's on fire
A dark angel of sin Preying deep from within Come take me in
I'm so afraid But I still feed the flame
You're possessing me
Judas Priest
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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 30, 2005 0:46:29 GMT -5
It would be far better to be of no church than to be bitter of any
To be like Christ is to be a Christian
Truth often suffers more by the heat of its defenders than the arguments of its opposers
William Penn
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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 30, 2005 1:05:17 GMT -5
William Penn was a good man. He was the only Government official in history to keep his treaty with the Native Americans.
William Penn was the first great hero of American liberty. During the late seventeenth century, when Protestants persecuted Catholics, Catholics persecuted Protestants, and both persecuted Quakers and Jews, Penn established an American sanctuary which protected freedom of conscience. Almost everywhere else, colonists stole land from the Indians, but Penn traveled unarmed among the Indians and negotiated peaceful purchases.
He insisted that women deserved equal rights with men. He gave Pennsylvania a written constitution which limited the power of government, provided a humane penal code, and guaranteed many fundamental liberties.
For the first time in modem history, a large society offered equal rights to people of different races and religions. Penn's dramatic example caused quite a stir in Europe. The French philosopher Voltaire, a champion of religious toleration, offered lavish praise. "William Penn might, with reason, boast of having brought down upon earth the Golden Age, which in all probability, never had any real existence but in his dominions."
Penn was the only person who made major contributions to liberty in both the New World and the Old World. Before he conceived the idea of Pennsylvania, he became the leading defender of religious toleration in England. He was imprisoned six times for speaking out courageously. While in prison, he wrote one pamphlet after another, which gave Quakers a literature and attacked intolerance. He alone proved capable of challenging oppressive government policies in court.
one of his cases helped secure the right to trial by jury. Penn used his diplomatic skills and family connections to get large numbers of Quakers out of jail. He saved many from the gallows.
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Post by Nepenthe on Nov 30, 2005 1:16:36 GMT -5
Thomas Jefferson, a man that accomplished a lot. I don't think he quite followed the morals and values of Jesus.
ahhhh his Trail of Tears
So virtuous and moral......
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