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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Sept 26, 2007 9:14:45 GMT -5
Oh yeah, and for some classic Chicago style post rock from the 90s....get some Toe. Ryo is right, those guys rule.
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Post by upinkzeppelin2 on Sept 26, 2007 17:37:23 GMT -5
Mmmkay, here's a project fer ya Skvor (and whoever else wants to participate):
What are the 5 best albums from the 10 bands/artists I listed in order from 1 to 5? That may be hard, but give it a try if you will. I might buy all 5.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Sept 27, 2007 8:43:55 GMT -5
1. Slint "Spiderland"
2. Cocteau Twins "Blue Bell Knoll"
3. Talk Talk "Laughing Stock"
4. Brian Eno "Another Green World"
5. Tortoise "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"
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Post by maarts on Sept 27, 2007 8:51:28 GMT -5
Slint- Spiderland is their magnum opus, the self titled one ain't bad. I also like (David) Pajo's solo-albums- not post rock by any means but very nicely crafted introverted music.
Dif Juz- Extractions is a top, top effort. Perhaps a bit more freestyle but very good too is HuReMiCs but that may be out of print. Extractions is produced by Robin Guthrie and has a bit of that Cocteau Twin-echoed sound in it but not to a degree where it inhibits the various players. It's definitely a jazzrock-album I had never heard in this indie-style before and very nice indeed!
Durutti Column- Vini's touring again under this name. I'm a fan of his early Factory-output like The Return Of the Durutti Column, LC and Without Mercy. It's mostly little guitar miniatures which are nicely structured and in the production of Martin Hannett sound like they've been recorded in a swimming pool. Pick up the excellent compilation Lips That Would Kiss (actually the title of my favourite track and more of a throwaway thing but it reminds me a bit of Mike Oldfield picking on his guitar at will). There's a Best Of double disc available too that came out a few years ago that does the trick. Reilly's later work has become a bit more rock-orientated and I lost a bit of interest so I can't really give advice on that era.
Cocteau Twins:
1. Victorialand- a more relaxed, almost completely acoustic affair between Robin & Liz Fraser. Great, calming entry iont their world. If Liz's voice doesn't do it for you here, forget about the rest.
2. Treasure. Their full tilt best rocking album, scaling all sorts of heights. Has drum machine so be wary.
3. Blue Bell Knoll. Their best wrought sonically, great songs,, sort of CT by numbers but it's very digabel and pleasant to the untrained ear. Note the stupid songtitles.
4. Heaven or Las Vegas- I've been a bit off and on enamoured with it, perhaps because some of the tracks are so ,matter of factly' but I've learned that many uninitiated to the Twins seem to be able to 'get' this album better. Personally I'd like to let them listen to Garlands, their raw debut, where Liz's vibrato curls around the echoing guitar of Robin Guthrie and the bouncing basslines of Will Heggie- people say it sounds dated but I couldn't give a flying fuck- it is a masterpiece!
5. Lullabies To Violaine- compiling their EPs from the early awkward days (Peppermint Pig) to the latter day ambient experiments. The Twins were a grand EP-band, when that modicum was so fashionable on 4AD and delivered some great moments- 4AD and Creation were the masters of awesome EP-releases. This has most of their strongest moments on it- Echoes In A Shallow Bay, Aikea-Guinea, Spangle Maker...fantastic material.
bonus ball- Cocteaus at the BBC. Their Garlands-set with Gordon Sharp (Cindytalk, This Mortal Coil) is absolutely fan-tas-tic!!
Eno- just get everything. He's done too much in so many different ways, just empty your pockets and immerse.
Tortoise- I only know Millions Now Living Will Never Die and believe that to be their best. Never really got a feel for them.
TD:
1. Phaedra
2. Logos (Live at The Dominion, London)
3. Tangram
4. White Eagle
5. Atem
6. Thief
There's a greatest hits available that got most of their best moments on Virgin on them. I like their pure classic electronic albums the best. Honorable mention for Pergamon which has some of Edgar Froese best guitarwork on it. Not post-rock at all but i always saw them as one of the bands through which you could hear the development of synthesizers through the 60s to now through. pioneering for sure, not everybody's cup of tea and, sadly, not always as crucial as they could be. their last 15 years of recording material is very patchy indeed, to say the least.
Bark Psychosis- Hex is a must if you want to discover the early roots of post-rock. I've drawn parallels with Talk Talk and that still stands. Godspeed has listened to them as well. Darker but equally as good is Codename:Dustsucker, released in 2005. I'm probably the only one who has that album....
Talk Talk- Spirit of Eden- masterpiece! The Colour Of Spring- a close second, more pop and direct but brilliant, brilliant moody songwriting. More introverted and also great- Laughing Stock (on the Verve-label, mind!). In its wake- the Mark Hollis-solo album which I've re-evaluated and really have started to appreciate now.
iLIKETRAINS- I got two of their EPs (Progress Reform and The Deception)and they are like an expanded version of Interpol-like rock with gothlike tendencies. Like them very much but don't rate them as post-rock. Can't wait to hear their LP.
Will this do?
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Sept 27, 2007 8:52:02 GMT -5
If you want my top ten post rock of all time though, it goes like this:
1.Slint "Spiderland
2.Godspeed You Black Emporer "Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven"
3.Mogwai "Young Team"
4.Mono "One More Step And You Die"
5.Sigur Ros "Takk"
6.Eluvium "An Accidental Memory In Case Of Death"
7. Fridge "Happiness"
8. Lift To Experience "The Texas-Jerusalem Crossroads"
9. Red Sparrows "At The Endless Dawn"
10. Tarentel "We Move Through Weather"
Tortoise "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Sept 27, 2007 12:39:58 GMT -5
iLIKETRAINS- I got two of their EPs (Progress Reform and The Deception)and they are like an expanded version of Interpol-like rock with gothlike tendencies. Like them very much but don't rate them as post-rock. Can't wait to hear their LP. The new album is growing on me quite a bit since I last commented. I think they did have some post-rock dynamics, but they've rowed back from that on the album, with the exception of "Spencer Perceval". That song remains both their best, and their most post-rock influenced. |
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 27, 2007 12:59:57 GMT -5
I'll have to check out that new iLIKETRAiNS...
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Sept 27, 2007 13:44:50 GMT -5
I'm going to be the dissenting vote I think on the new one. "Spencer Perceval" is a great great track but it angered me how much it stood out against the so-so-ness of the rest of the album. I don't think it's as good as previous efforts.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Sept 27, 2007 13:45:08 GMT -5
I'm seeing Mono tonight, by the way. So awesome.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Sept 27, 2007 14:23:36 GMT -5
You know....Spiritualized is some pretty Ace stuff, man. I'm jamming "ladies and gentleman, we are floating in space" for the first time in years and it's just amazing.
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Post by maarts on Sept 27, 2007 15:12:55 GMT -5
Seconded on Spiritualized. I played the first one a few days ago and I'm still trippin'.
Haqve fun at Mono!
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Sept 27, 2007 15:50:52 GMT -5
It's weird, man. Mono is opening up for High On Fire, which I like, but that is going to be a really weird paring I think.
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 27, 2007 17:13:08 GMT -5
I'm seeing Mono tonight, by the way. So awesome. No fuckin way. Holy shit |
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 27, 2007 17:15:00 GMT -5
I'm trying to see if I can go see Mono w/High On Fire in New York City, Monday, Oct 8 - as I will be in Boston at that time. It's but a 5 hour drive; the only thing is, the next day, Tuesday, Oct 9, I'd drive right back to Boston and then another 2 hours further north to Portland, maine, for KORN !
Still. It would be totally worth it to see mono again. . . in new york city . . .w/High On Fire. . .
you're right, skvor... 'tis a most unusual pairing, indeed...
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Post by upinkzeppelin2 on Sept 27, 2007 21:13:31 GMT -5
Will this do?
It certainly will and I appreciate maarts and skvor. You guys make me realize how vast the ocean of music is and in all honesty I can't see how ya'll have listened to THAT much music. But that's cool. Just ordered Spirit Of Eden yesterday and am looking forward to it. From how you described it in that PM, maarts, I think it's right up my alley. It probably won't be long before I order Another Green World.
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