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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 12, 2005 16:15:44 GMT -5
Or possible only a note to Thorny and Skvor. Why is this supposedly an embarrassing genre? Why hide all the Christian Death albums when you finally score a date with that little hipster chick you've been stalking since you saw the Libs at the Birmingham Academy? (metaphorically speaking, of course - note to partner: I didn't see the Libs and there is no hipster chick really) I want to divine the ten greatest goth albums ever. Through a collective group effort of all those willing to admit to tuning into the dark (and slightly campy) side on occasion. I'm paralysed already though, on the question of whether Pornography is a goth album. I think not, maybe. I'll start off with a no-brainer from the beginning of the blackened age of goth:  In the Flat Field My other nomination (for now) would be for the last truly good - though not truly great - goth album ever made, imo:  October Rust I should really get a blog so I can ramble on to myself without fear of contradiction. |
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Post by riley on Nov 13, 2005 17:04:55 GMT -5
As of right now, there's only one poster getting a wedgy for having started this thread, but depending on who else responds there could be more. I'm keeping score and handing them out. Post carefully.
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 14, 2005 9:22:30 GMT -5
*speaking past Riley to JLLM* About time someone started this thread~! Good work, mate. I will be sure to provide much feedback, as I have an entire "goth" sub-section to my music collection, here are some of the bands featured:
SISTERS OF MERCY
BAUHAUS
PETER MURPHY
HUMAN DRAMA
THEATRE OF TRAGEDY
ELYSIAN FIELDS
VAST
SIOUXSIE AND THE BANSHEES
PORTISHEAD (I consider "Dummy" to be extremely gothic, so swallow it)
SMASHING PUMPKINS (primarily their album ADORE...)
A GOTHIC TRIBUTE TO the SMASHING PUMPKINS (...whadid I tellya;)
FIELDS OF THE NEPHILIM
LEVIATHAN
XASTHUR
DEAD CAN DANCE
RAISON D'ETRE
DESIDERII MARGINIS
IN SLAUGHTER NATIVES
BRIGHTER DEATH NOW
AGHAST
CERNUNNO'S WOODS
DRACUL (ORDER OF THE DRAGON)
ORDO EQUILIBRIO
BURZUM
SUMMONING
BESTIA CENTAURI
A PERFECT CIRCLE
ARCHON SATANI
NICK CAVE
CRADLE OF THORNS
APOPTYGMA BERZERK
THE CURE
TYPE O NEGATIVE
JOY DIVISION
MINISTRY
MISFITS
LYCIA
ORGY
DEADSY
VIDEODRONE
MARILYN MANSON
NINE INCH NAILS
TOOL
KORN...
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 14, 2005 10:02:22 GMT -5
 PETER MURPHY love hysteria  BAUHAUS the sky's gone out  . . . . . . .   THE CURE pornography  JOY DIVISION closer  . . . . . . .   . . . . . . .  |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Nov 14, 2005 10:07:53 GMT -5
 The Cure-Faith  Skinny Puppy-Bites  Sisters of Mercy-Floodland  This Mortal Coil-It'll End In Tears  Cocteau Twins-Blue Bell Knoll |
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 14, 2005 10:37:01 GMT -5
dude - good call on the SKINNY PUPPY and Blue Bell Knoll, not to mention THIS MORTAL COIL (*d'oh!) I knew I'd omit some mandatory selections . . .
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 14, 2005 10:37:45 GMT -5
I couldn't decide between FAITH, PORNOGRAPHY, or SEVENTEEN SECONDS . . . I went with Pornography, as it is the most familiar to me.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Nov 14, 2005 14:53:52 GMT -5
Ah, yeah, I think that Skinny Puppy is just brilliant. From the minute I first heard them, I have been totally obsessed. I personally love the trancy-ness of "Faith" over anything else. For some reason, that has always been a personal favorite fo mine.
For the This Mortal Coil, it was hard to choose because I think all three of their records are essential.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 15, 2005 4:49:09 GMT -5
Wedgies be damned!
If we're counting Pornography and Closer then that's 2 clear places in most goth top tens, I imagine. It's mainly US influence that's led to the 'goth' tag being applied to both bands though. As Fat Bob himself said, if he'd walked into London's Bat Cave back in the 80's and calimed the Cure to be a goth band he'd have been pelted with mascara and drowned in a big vat of patchouli oil.
But I'm willing to admit, in hindsight, that the Americans have got their categorisation right in these cases.
I love "Faith" too Skvor. In particular the title track. But there's a hypnotic monotony to that album I just enjoy.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 15, 2005 4:53:19 GMT -5
 I know, I know... Catastrophe Ballet and Only Theatre of Pain are better. I just love the inspired warpedness of Atrocities though.  Red Lorry Yellow Lorry should be sampled in compilation form, as they were one of the best singles bands ever to grace the goth movement. |
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 15, 2005 4:56:52 GMT -5
 Elizium was the better album. But this is the more gothic and one of my favourite 3 goth albums of all time. Last one for now...  Antichrist Superstar If you can have Portishead, thorny, then I reckon there should be no problem wih me including this slab of Reznor-fingerprinted genius. |
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Post by riley on Nov 15, 2005 6:40:45 GMT -5
Have any of you guys ever kissed a girl?
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Post by luke on Nov 15, 2005 8:55:22 GMT -5
 Riley, you're such a conformist. |
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 15, 2005 9:26:50 GMT -5
haha, love it. . .
Well I did include manson (as well as several other "questionable gothics", such as korn, the pumpkins, ministry, tool, etc) in my list, and that album in particular I feel to be the most "gothic" of all his output (not to mention my personal favorite of his), so that's awesome, man.
Anyone who fails to see the gothic sensibilities in manson, korn, tool, and ministry really needs to pay more attention...
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Nov 15, 2005 10:16:40 GMT -5
I have made out with your mom many times, Riley. Mmmmm........
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