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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Nov 15, 2005 10:17:41 GMT -5
Personally, I think one of the greatest classics of the "goth" genre would definitely have to be the first Dead Can Dance record. Man, what a great record that is. Would many of you agree that 4AD could possibly be the greatest goth label ever to exist?
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 16, 2005 6:24:51 GMT -5
 Riley, you're such a conformist. ;D |
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 16, 2005 6:27:04 GMT -5
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 16, 2005 6:27:58 GMT -5
Personally, I think one of the greatest classics of the "goth" genre would definitely have to be the first Dead Can Dance record. Man, what a great record that is. Would many of you agree that 4AD could possibly be the greatest goth label ever to exist? Yes, 4AD and Beggars Banquet. |
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 16, 2005 6:38:09 GMT -5
Thorny - I used to have frequent arguments with an ex-girlfriend over whether Tool had a gothic element. I reckoned they did, and that even a later track like "Third Eye" would have been right at home on albums like The Sky's Gone Out. But she said I was talking shite. I'm with you mate. Adore[/b] is another good call. The artwork, the predominant mood of the piece without Chamberlain, the lyrics... no-one can tell me that isn't a goth album. Even on Machina Corgan kept a gothic feel on tracks like"Crying Tree of Mercury" and "Glass and the Ghost Machine" or whatever that latter one was called (my two favourite tracks on the album).  |
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Post by rockkid on Nov 16, 2005 7:48:27 GMT -5
So glad to see someone (JLLM I think it was) included Andersons work.
Out right goth symphonic some of it was Ciao Edie et all
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 16, 2005 8:10:08 GMT -5
Ha! See that Riley? A girl! On the goth thread. That's 'cos goths are babe magnets mate.
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Post by riley on Nov 16, 2005 8:15:39 GMT -5
Who did you think I was planning on sub contracting to deliver said wedgies? Rockid is here to hang all you weirdos up on door hooks by your arses. Don't kid yourself.
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 16, 2005 8:49:56 GMT -5
Yep -- 4AD ; Beggars Banquet ; and one of my personal faves, COLD MEAT INDUSTRY baby  I haven't heard that Cult album dreamtime in 4ever Question 4U: I happen to be of the opinion that the "Godfather Of Goth", the Original King who spawned that entire scene, so to speak, would be none other than DAVID BOWIE. I find it kinda ironic, since precious little of his music could actually be considered "goth" itself. Yet nonetheless, I believe he was the singlemost powerful inspiration for the progenitors of that movement, Peter Murphy & Bauhaus. Hence making DAVID BOWIE the *actual*, true progenitor of goth. Whaddaya say to that . . . ? |
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 16, 2005 8:52:09 GMT -5
*Projekt Records*
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 16, 2005 8:53:08 GMT -5
Murphy was a total and utter Bowie impression back in 79 - voice, haircut, pale, skinny androgeny. It was obvious hero worship, and it was their cover of "Ziggy Stardust" that broke them in most countries. Good call.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Nov 16, 2005 10:16:59 GMT -5
I would have to say it was a conglomeration of David Bowie, Lou Reed, Brian Eno, Syd Barrett, and even Jim Morrison.
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Post by luke on Nov 16, 2005 11:45:39 GMT -5
Goth chicks are pretty hot.
Real goth chicks, mind you. The ones with the figures and the skin for it. Not those big'uns who shop at the fat version of Hot Topic, or the ugly ones whose skin looks all raunchy when magnified like that. But the real ones.
And I always found Corgan's attempts at goth to be sad, sad indeed. He's a goddamn alterna-hippy, and he knows it. Should've paid more attention to Pavement...not when Malkmus was bashing them, but when he said not to cut your fucking hair.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 17, 2005 8:28:52 GMT -5
So glad to see someone (JLLM I think it was) included Andersons work. Out right goth symphonic some of it was Ciao Edie et all You know what really pisses me off about The Cult? The fact they after they released two interesting, fantastic albums Billy Duffy suddenly decided he was an all-action guitar hero and they turned into a bunch of wannabe-Americans. Electric and Sonic Temple (yeah, sure, "Edie" was a good song to be fair) are generally wank of the very worst sort always produced when a bunch of pale-arsed Limeys forget they're from somewhere like Bootle and start watching too many Bon Jovi DVDs. The saddest aspect of it is I still remember a photo on the wall of my local of Astbury and Duffy draped in a huge stars n' stripes banner, while one of their pieces of dross from Sonic Temple played on the jukebox, and all the local rock guitarists who should have been lapping that shit up in theory were just pissing themselves at the lamentable standard of Duffy's inept fret-wankery anyway. Tosser. |
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 17, 2005 8:30:50 GMT -5
On the other hand, it did lift their profile in the US, so you could say it paid off commercially
just like U2's Yankee-ass-kissing godawful Joshua Tree bollocks.
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