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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 8:41:24 GMT -5
And Hendrix in my twisted mind will always be stoner rock; or stoner blues, or whatever the hell I'm supposed to call it.
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 11, 2006 11:30:08 GMT -5
Hendrix . . . just a stoner
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 11, 2006 11:31:02 GMT -5
"postindieprepunkaltmetalpsychedeliccountryfusionblues "
This really is as good as any a description of what KORN is, right there.
Rather a perfect summation of their hybrid sound.
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Post by shin on Jan 11, 2006 14:26:54 GMT -5
And Hendrix in my twisted mind will always be stoner rock; or stoner blues, or whatever the hell I'm supposed to call it. Just as long as you understand that you're incorrect, ok. |
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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 15:28:21 GMT -5
ah! went on a stoner kick a few years back with the great aforementioned Kyuss "Blues For Red Sun" being one of the first pick-ups. Others that followed: ORANGE GOBLIN "Frequencies From Planet Ten" ORANGE GOBLIN "Time Traveling Blues" both that I recently mentioned being killer IMO over any of their later output which swung away some from the 'smokier' stoner sound that I so dug on these two releasesSHEAVY "Electric Sleep" total Ozzy soundalike singer and riffs attempting to matchSPIRIT CARAVAN "The Last Embrace" 'deze dudes can get their fuzz on -- this double-CD gets ya what ya needTROUBLE "Psalm 9" 1984 and Metal Blade gave us Chicago's Trouble debut. Sabbath blended with some early Priest and VERY satisfying. Cover of Cream's 'Tales of Brave Ulysses' caps a kickass album! Can also recommend 1991's "Manic Frustration" if you can find it.ATOMIC BITCHWAX former Monster Magnet guitarist Ed Mundell was originally the backbone of this act and their 1999 debut remains the best pick IMO.MONSTER MAGNET fuuuccckkkk, take your pick of any of the earlier shit, esp. "Spine Of God" & "Dopes To Infinity" SOLACE "13" release that also gets put into the 'Sabbath-wannabeclone' bin with Sheavy, tho' a bit more rougher about the edges than that bandold Pentagram Fu Manchu and NICE fuckin' call on the HENDRIX! shit, toss on side 3 of "Electric LadyLand" with 'Rainy Day'/'1983'/'Moon, Turn The Tides'....yeah Thanks. The above mentioned bands, less Hendrix, & Fu Manchu, I don't know a thing about....I've never listened to them. Is this what shin referes to about stoner rock? I've alway figured stoner rock to be mainly lots of classic rock tunes...Hendrix, some CCR (like "Keep on Chooglin'" live), some Doors, Pink Floyd (the last two could be acid rock)...I gues I'm confused. what is the sound of stoner rock supposed to be? |
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Post by shin on Jan 11, 2006 16:14:38 GMT -5
Cook, download "Gardenia" by Kyuss, you'll figure it out pretty quickly.
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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 16:16:15 GMT -5
Cook, download "Gardenia" by Kyuss, you'll figure it out pretty quickly. Will do. I'll report back later.... |
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Post by shin on Jan 11, 2006 16:31:26 GMT -5
www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:11953Hah, if you think it's hard to figure out what stoner rock really is, don't even bother trying to figure out what stoner rock's cousin "doom metal" is...I still haven't figured it out myself... Cook, you should also check out the Desert Sessions (Kyuss/Queens of the Stone Age's Josh Homme leading an allstar jam session in his desert studio). It will have equal parts jam rock and stoner rock, should appeal to a classic rock fans such as yourself 
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 11, 2006 16:39:48 GMT -5
www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:11953Hah, if you think it's hard to figure out what stoner rock really is, don't even bother trying to figure out what stoner rock's cousin "doom metal" is...I still haven't figured it out myself...  |
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Post by Thorngrub on Jan 11, 2006 16:48:41 GMT -5
Some others would be Cathedral, Katatonia, Saint Vitus . . . even Electric Wizard is pseudo-doomy, with a stoner feel thrown in for good measure. Candlemass was the first doom I ever heard, and it turns out they are considered to be the originators, despite some arguments saying Black Sabbath pioneered the genre. I personally side with those who give Candlemass the credit, because Sabbath only toyed around with the sound, after helping to kickstart the entire metal movement, they went on to a more solid heavy rock feel. Whereas Candlemass's every song is a pronounced dirgelike doom anthem to be hailed as the real thing. As far as I know, they have stayed relatively true to that sound ever since.
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Post by fredrum on Jan 11, 2006 17:43:57 GMT -5
Is stoner rock fused with jam rock really encapsulated in the song "Shepherd's Pie"? Damn. shepherds pie shepherds pie im a gonna get me some shepherds pie. |
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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 17:59:35 GMT -5
Haven't listened to the song yet, buy I know a little of Kyuss, and I have one QOTSA album...I always figured that sounded more like metal in a way, no? My freinds and I have used the term stoner rock for years, I suppose that's why I think of many classic rock bands...Like when CCR jams on "Keep On Chooglin", my friends and I were like, they must be high, that's stoner rock....I guess the name has completely changed from when I used it loosely to describe rock bands that play, or at least sound like they're stoned. That's why I immediatly thought of Hendrix....which I still think of as some sort of stoner rock. When I listened to Kyuss in the past, I thought it just sounded like a new wave, alt rock meets metal kind of sound.....goes to show what I know.
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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 18:04:20 GMT -5
Considering some of my friends run a record store (I'm a silent partner), I'm gonna get my hands on some Kyuss....If I like it, watch out, cause I'll end up breaking down every nook and cranny of their sound, as I've done w/ the Kinks lately, then I won't shut up about them.... Anyway, aren't there multiple volumes of the Dessert Sessions? If so, what do you recommend?
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Post by shin on Jan 11, 2006 18:12:41 GMT -5
There are 10, usually lumped in duos. I'd say go for 9&10, the sound is a bit more realized.
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Post by rockysigman on Jan 11, 2006 18:13:45 GMT -5
I think the term "stoner rock", like lots of other terms that are applied to various types of music, has kind of developed a particular meaning that might not be obvious to people running across it for the first time. As it so happens, there is a subgenre of hard rock that has been dubbed "stoner rock" by its fans and by lazy reviewers. But without knowing about that particular usage, I think it's perfectly reasonable to apply the term to all the stuff that Paul has applied it to here.
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