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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jan 24, 2006 16:19:05 GMT -5
Yes, that record will be out very soon. Apparently it's a return to the "Keep It Like A Secret" sound after "Ancient Melodies" was a bit of a let down. I've heard that the new one is going to be phenomenal.
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Post by lunatic96 on Jan 27, 2006 22:53:04 GMT -5
My favourite 3-song stretch on TMA is "The Cold Part", "Alone Down There" and "The Stars Are Projectors". I get the feeling that's the exact part of the album you're referring to as a momentum killer? I like long, sprawling, and preferably miserable songs though. The last 3 minutes of "Life Like Weeds" being a perfect case in point. The subtlest of Mousegasms. Yeah, that's the part of the album I'm talking about. Two of the songs are great, but they kind of suck the life out of the album. Pretty much all the songs on TMA are great, it's just about 15 minutes too long. If it were up to me I'd cut "A Different City", "I Came as a Rat", and "Lives" They're all good songs, but none of them are especially essential. I love the long miserable modest mouse songs as well, I just think they work better by themselves. Whenever I listen to "The Stars are Projectors" by itself it's awesome, but in the context of the album I'm just waiting for "Paper Thin Walls" to start so the album starts rocking again. |
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Jan 28, 2006 7:15:21 GMT -5
I love the guitar in "Lives". Plus even I can actually play along to that one, so I say keep it.
But yeah, "I Came As A Rat" is on Everywhere & His Nasty Parlor tricks, so if ever forced to trim the album for some reason that's the one track I'd cut.
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Post by luke on Jan 30, 2006 11:42:11 GMT -5
Wow, I really don't like any of the long, miserable songs too much outside of the concept of the album. That transition from complete depression into waking back up makes the album, but outside of the album, none of the songs really hold up.
I love "I Came as a Rat", but yeah, heard it before. "Lives", on the other hand, is probably my favorite track on the album behind "Life Like Weeds."
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Post by luke on Jan 30, 2006 11:43:25 GMT -5
As for Interstate 8...well, it's like saying Bleach is your favorite Nirvana album. You don't really mean it, and it's really not as good as any of the later stuff, but it's the one your least sick of because it never connected with you for as long as the others did.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Jan 30, 2006 15:01:06 GMT -5
Bleach really is my favourite Nirvana album. I've only ever played it 3 times though. I've played Nevermind maybe 3000 times and now it makes me feel stressed and unwell to hear more than 5 seconds of any song on there. Seriously, I have to turn any of their radio songs off the second they play the first scuzzy power chord.
I dunno where this is going. Except maybe that you have a point. It's probably why I occasionally decide Adore is better than Siamese Dream.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jan 31, 2006 13:44:53 GMT -5
You couldn't be more wrong in your assesement, luke. For one thing, Interstate 8 was done AFTER "This Is A Long Drive....." and it wasn't to much fanfare. As a matter of fact, it's not that it didn't connect, it's that when it came time to put the EP back into print, UP Records went away due to the guy that owned it dying of HIV(a subject Brock wrote about repititiously on Good News). So it's languished in an out of print status for years now and it doesn't look like it's coming back anytime soon. For one thing, you go to any Modest Mouse concert and for those of us who have been fans for a long time, you can tell by the sing alongs and general enthusiastic applause that "Interstate 8", "Sleepwalking", "Edit the Sad Parts" when played live. These songs became major watermarks for the feelings that I can relate to and continue to carry in my life. As a matter of fact, the lyrics on "Interstate 8" have probably connected with me more than any other record they have released since. The other great thing about it is that the EP is filled with the original four track recordings of Modest Mouse done in Brock's garage, the "Live in Sunburst, Montana" sessions as they have been called, and I personally think it's great. I don't feel like they have lost alot of edge since then either.
Personally I think this kind of reasoning that you've put out is damn near ridiculous. If it wasn't for "Bleach", I wouldn't have "In Utero", which is my favorite record by Nirvana. You have to start somewhere. Maybe if you'd attacked posturing ignorant class and attention starving trust fund baby hipsters as it being a token response that they don't bat at eye at, then yeah, you might be onto something. However, I don't think it's that easily generalized and the point was lost on me all together, unfortunately.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jan 31, 2006 19:28:36 GMT -5
That is no way a diss at you though, luke. Just wanted to say that.
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Post by Rit on Feb 2, 2006 21:24:24 GMT -5
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Feb 3, 2006 4:49:54 GMT -5
This is about as good as it gets. The morning could only be improved if I'd woken up to find I'd finally developed a 9 inch cock. |
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Post by luke on Feb 3, 2006 8:09:54 GMT -5
Should have put a DISCLAIMER: This post doesn't apply to underground guys from Austin Texas who have been smart to the scene for fifteen years.
Do stand by what I said about Bleach, though. Unless you were there to pick it up back in the days before Nevermind...well, everything I said in that post.
I was attacking the way people in general, and not just hipsters, will get a little worn on everything by a band they listen to a lot, and then fool themselves into thinking that one of the less widely recieved albums is their favorite just because it hasn't been done to death.
Anyways...
That Johnny Marr bit should be incredible.
Been listening to a lot of MM back and forth from Baton Rouge...definitely a driving band if ever there was one.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Feb 3, 2006 13:46:33 GMT -5
I'm kinda worried about the marriage of Marr and Brock. Eh.....I don't know. Have you guys heard The Healers? I thought that record was not very good. I didn't particularly like Electonic either, the album with him and Bernard Sumner of New Order. I'm going to be slightly optimistically skeptical??? IF that is such a thing?
Luke, I totally get the idea on Nirvana now that I go back and think on it.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Feb 3, 2006 14:56:27 GMT -5
You have me worried now Skvor. But then, Marr's done alright with the genius of Mozzer alongside. Maybe Brock will inspire him the same way, and the way that, say, Bernard Sumner doesn't.
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Post by luke on Feb 3, 2006 15:22:58 GMT -5
Hmm...never heard that Healers bit. Hopefully they'll have some chemistry there, though.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Feb 11, 2006 13:15:10 GMT -5
I'm now more convinced by Interstate 8 as an EP, having forced myself into repeated listens out of respect for Skvor's opinion. I can see an appeal to "Edit the Sad Parts" and to the title track in particular, but I'm still generally more ambivalent about this EP than any other MM release, except the sub-standard Everywhere & his Nasty Parlor Tricks (which just plain sucks overall) and the juvenilia of the dial-a-song stuff on Sad Sappy Sucker.
So a final listing for me would be:
1. Lonesome Crowded West
2= Moon & Antarctica
2= This is a Long Drive...
4. Building Nothing out of Something
5. Good News for People Who Love Bad News
6. The Fruit That Ate Itself
7. Interstate 8
8. Sad Sappy Sucker
9. Everywhere & His Nasty Parlor Tricks
I'll be more than happy if the new album ranks in the top 5. Even another Good News for People Who Love Bad News would probably end up amongst my top 2 or 3 albums of the year for '06, even with other heavyweight contenders lined up to release come Autumn time.
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