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Post by luke on Feb 21, 2007 9:34:58 GMT -5
Good call, I really do like what Marr has done.
My biggest complaint is "Fire It Up." That song is so horrible it nearly derails the entire album. Definitely more consistency than Good News, and usually not as feel-good vomitty. But it still has feel-good vomitty parts, for sure. They'll never have another classic, but this wasn't near as bad as it could have been.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Feb 21, 2007 10:08:20 GMT -5
I'm thinking it might be best just to download the album. I heard "Fire It Up" and that is one of the worst songs I think I have ever heard.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Feb 21, 2007 13:21:15 GMT -5
See, I love "Fire It Up", but I did think it was shite when I first played it 20 times on youtube. The album version is much better, with simple but compelling guitar breaks and it builds nicely. "Florida" is the only track I haven't decided I definitely really like yet - can't make up my mind at this point.
It's also a bit of a "what the fuck?" moment when you get half-way through the album and they suddenly turn into Franz Ferdinand's post-punk wannabe mates for 20 minutes...
Like the Arcade Fire album it didn't blow me away at first but just keeps on growing. I'm happy right now. These two albums have reconnected me to music when I was getting so jaded I was just watching DVDs and playing computer games.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Feb 21, 2007 14:43:35 GMT -5
See, that's where I'm at right now. A bit jaded, playing computer games and listening to a lot of British terror music like Extreme Noise Terror, Napalm Death, Carcass, and stuff like that. I have also been getting a bit into the old goth stuff too.
I really liked the first single from the Mouse records so I will have to check it out. I will likely get the album on vinyl and then not listen to it much. I don't listen to "Good News" very much at all.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Feb 21, 2007 14:54:37 GMT -5
I have also been getting a bit into the old goth stuff too. We talking Ann Radcliffe or Sister of Mercy? I had a brief burst of playing First & Last & Always last week. It was the Nephilim about 6 months ago. You're probably on a far more obscure trip though eh, me old mucker? I may have a Bauhaus kick again at some point, maybe Christian Death... but it'll never be The Mission. I can say that with complete confidence. |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Feb 21, 2007 15:13:24 GMT -5
The Mission bores me a bit but they do have a couple of songs that I really dig. Here lately it's been all about the following:
all of the Fields of the Nephilim albums
Sisters of Mercy-Floodland
Early Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds
Lydia Lunch, 13:13 and the Queen of Siam records. Not the no-wavey stuff, but I do like that.
Clan of Xymox-Medusa
The Cure-Faith
Christian Death-Catastrophe Ballet, which is probably my all time fav of theirs. I have a hard time getting into the stuff with just Valor. I have always been a bigger Rozz fan.
Shadow Project
The early Skinny Puppy records
a bunch of Project records samplers
early Cocteau Twins
This Mortal Coil
The Wake
The Church....though I know they aren't really goth, they have that Peter Murphy solo folk goth kind of thing going
and of course NIN and Bauhaus.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Feb 21, 2007 15:15:04 GMT -5
One CD that I had forgotten about was a little project called "Will" that had members of Frontline Assembly involved. It's pretty cool. It's like Death In June meets Front 242. Weird stuff, but I like it.
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Post by dolly on Feb 23, 2007 12:24:06 GMT -5
The Mission bores me a bit but they do have a couple of songs that I really dig. Here lately it's been all about the following: all of the Fields of the Nephilim albums Sisters of Mercy-Floodland Early Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds Lydia Lunch, 13:13 and the Queen of Siam records. Not the no-wavey stuff, but I do like that. Clan of Xymox-Medusa The Cure-Faith Christian Death-Catastrophe Ballet, which is probably my all time fav of theirs. I have a hard time getting into the stuff with just Valor. I have always been a bigger Rozz fan. Shadow Project The early Skinny Puppy records a bunch of Project records samplers early Cocteau Twins This Mortal Coil The Wake The Church....though I know they aren't really goth, they have that Peter Murphy solo folk goth kind of thing going and of course NIN and Bauhaus. I too can't really can't really get behind Valor's Christian Death, their debut Only Theatre of Pain has always been my favourite by far, as there are some really rocking tracks on there (Figurative Theatre, Spiritual Cramp etc). It all to me got a little overblown and pretentious once Valor took over (a goth band? Pretentious? Never!). |
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Post by samplestiltskin on Feb 23, 2007 14:30:25 GMT -5
Death in June, what the fuck is up with those weirdos? I feel bad, I heard some mp3s and really liked them, and then someone goes and shows me a video where they're basically Nazi worshipping freaks. 242 however, are the shit.
My best friend broke up with a woman because of The Genitorturers! Now there's some skeezy fun.
Why I am talking about this on a Modest Mouse board I don't know. I think I'll vote and get out of here.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Feb 23, 2007 15:42:03 GMT -5
I've met the Death In June guys and the Nazi thing is a total myth as far as they said.......who knows how they really feel though.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Feb 26, 2007 2:02:57 GMT -5
Sorry chaps, but "Fire It Up" is this album's "Pictures of You". That laid back groove is a real grower. For me it's the key track in elevating this album above Good News.
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Post by sisyphus on Mar 1, 2007 6:08:51 GMT -5
modest mouse has some of the best lyrics in the world. so whack. plastic grapefruit wars and mania. mmm. tastey.
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Post by luke on Mar 1, 2007 10:29:34 GMT -5
Sorry chaps, but "Fire It Up" is this album's "Pictures of You". That laid back groove is a real grower. For me it's the key track in elevating this album above Good News. Okay, then, I'll give it a few more chances. But I blame you entirely if it never grows on me, and I lay in my deathbed someday thinking about all those extra minutes I could have had if JLLM hadn't gotten me to give that song a second chance. |
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Post by luke on Mar 1, 2007 15:15:24 GMT -5
Okay, I listened to the album again, and it's not bad at all. The trick is to pretend this is a new band, or at least a band whose first record was Good News.
I get the Fire It Up/Pictures of You comparison pretty well now. It's not as bad a song as I thought it was. I think that JLLM has the advantage of being English, though, so when he hears the words "Fire It Up" he isn't instantly brought into the world of some studio gangster hack piece of shit like Young Jeezy or Lil' Wayne rapping about blunts.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Mar 3, 2007 11:28:22 GMT -5
modest mouse has some of the best lyrics in the world. so whack. plastic grapefruit wars and mania. mmm. tastey. Hit and miss stuff though. Sometimes I feel like it's that whole random monkeys and typewriters thing, and there's too many pointless word-play run-ons on the new album. On the other hand, the whole lonely, spacey, metaphysical feel of LCW and M&A is really incongruous coming out of Brock. I think he's some genius or savant, and then he goes and writes a lyric like "Night on the Sun" and god only knows... |
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