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Post by Dr. Drum on Aug 20, 2004 10:52:21 GMT -5
I was just on CNN's website reading the updates of the supposed truce / whatever it is in Najaf. My two questions at this point are: 1. Why in the hell is that mosque still standing? We should be bombing it into a pile of dust, and then bomb the pile of dust once for good measure. Bombing the mosque into "a pile of dust" would be the quick way to a general rebellion against U.S. forces in Iraq. You would instantly make blood enemies of the entire Shia community (60% of the total population of Iraq). Relatively cooperative mullahs like Ali al-Sistani would cease cooperating with the occupation authorities/biding their time and instead start calling for violent resistance against U.S. forces. A bad situation would quickly become catastrophic. |
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 20, 2004 11:03:49 GMT -5
Bombing the mosque into "a pile of dust" would be the quick way to a general rebellion against U.S. forces in Iraq. You would instantly make blood enemies of the entire Shia community (60% of the total population of Iraq). Relatively cooperative mullahs like Ali al-Sistani would cease cooperating with the occupation authorities/biding their time and instead start calling for violent resistance against U.S. forces. A bad situation would quickly become catastrophic. Well the current approach of "let our guys die, because we have to be trustworthy and people must like us" certainly ain't working. When people are fighting us, we have GOT to fight back. Thinking that you can sit back and talk these people into cooperating is insane. They've alreayd gone back on verbal deals how many times? |
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Aug 20, 2004 11:58:13 GMT -5
I was just on CNN's website reading the updates of the supposed truce / whatever it is in Najaf. My two questions at this point are: 1. Why in the hell is that mosque still standing? We should be bombing it into a pile of dust, and then bomb the pile of dust once for good measure. 2. Just how many broken promises are we going to fall for from these assholes before we finally realize we can't negotiate with peoplewho can't be trusted?? Nah, you'll alienate all the moderates in the entire Middle East region just about, not just Iraqis. Isn't it about time you starting to think about how the rest of the world sees your nation? Btw, I've never seen such negative election campaigning in all my years watching politics. Have Bush and his cronies got no shame? |
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Aug 20, 2004 12:03:13 GMT -5
I've missed the Springsteen story somehow. Please could someone give me a brief outline or supply a link?
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 20, 2004 12:04:00 GMT -5
Btw, I've never seen such negative election campaigning in all my years watching politics. Have Bush and his cronies got no shame? ARe you truly so naive to believe that it is that one sided? |
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 20, 2004 12:05:05 GMT -5
And for the record, I care a hell of a lot more about the American soldiers who are dying in Iraq right now, and what needs to be done to prevent that then I do what the rest of the world thinks oft the US. Americans living matters more to me than people liking us, and i"m not afraid to admit that.
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Post by Galactus on Aug 20, 2004 13:29:24 GMT -5
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Post by Galactus on Aug 20, 2004 13:30:46 GMT -5
And for the record, I care a hell of a lot more about the American soldiers who are dying in Iraq right now, and what needs to be done to prevent that then I do what the rest of the world thinks oft the US. Americans living matters more to me than people liking us, and i"m not afraid to admit that. Then why don't we pull out and drop "the bomb" and be done with it. |
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 20, 2004 13:31:37 GMT -5
Then why don't we pull out and drop "the bomb" and be done with it. That's pretty much what I was asking. |
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Post by Galactus on Aug 20, 2004 13:36:28 GMT -5
I've tried to think up witty retort...but honestly I just feel sorry for you.
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Post by strawman on Aug 20, 2004 14:05:33 GMT -5
Good to see Bush and his buddies have secured the oil supplies and stabilised the price...(turn off dripping sarcasm)...yep this incursion into Iraq is the biggest fuck up since Vietnam....and remember prior to the invasion I said so on the now defunct RS.com....Bush thought it would be a walk in the park, yeah right, there will always be resistence when you invade someones country....In one moment of insanity at the white house, you've managed to turn many moderates into terrorists....yaaaaayyyyy....
Maybe next time your leaders may listen to the international community (read UN), and exercise some self control before starting a shit fight they can't win...still at least the terrorists have a focus...
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Post by strawman on Aug 20, 2004 14:08:06 GMT -5
When people are fighting us, we have GOT to fight back.
probably what the Iraqis thought...after all they didn't invade another country....quite illegally....
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 20, 2004 14:10:58 GMT -5
Straw, your comments are so lacking in any fact that it's hardly worth responding. Bush is on record over and over and over again saying that it would be a tough fight in Iraq, and yet you make the claim that he thought it'd be a cakewalk. Can you guys not base any good arguments against Bush on actual facts? Must you depend on nothing but spin and empty rhetoric?
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 20, 2004 14:32:32 GMT -5
JLLM, here's a fascinating fact for you to consider while you ponder the demise of good behavior in American politics ... 80% of the soft money that has been spent in this campaign (and it's the soft money that is running the destructive ads ... neither candidate will touch it, ESPECIALLY when the soft groups like MoveOn and Swift Boat dudes for truth are willing to do the dirty work and take the mud) has been spent to support liberal causes/candidates. Just thought you oughta know that while you point the finger exclusively at Bush. But then, I guess you can't be expected to keep up with these things if the BBC doesn't bother to fair and balanced-ly report on them.
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Post by RocDoc on Aug 20, 2004 16:48:09 GMT -5
Maybe next time your leaders may listen to the international community (read UN), and exercise some self control before starting a shit fight they can't win...
A United Nations with 3 very strong countries selfishly guarding their own financial self-interests in Iraq, roadblocking us in our protection of ourselves and of protection of an ally like Israel from dangers which the intel of the Brits and of the U.S. said was present and imminent....those nations tried their damnedest to block us at every turn, for their own gain.
THIS is an organization to respect?
'Respected international community' my ass.
Fuck, had they not been running such strong interference, a full UN-backed force in Iraq WOULD HAVE secured all those small villages on the Coalition's march northward to Baghdad, instead of pulling out after routing Sodom's gurad troops from them....which allowed the doubts to creep in and fester among the ordinary Iraqi villagers.
I definitely DO wish they'd held off for more support, now, in hindsight....but the intel being what it was...WTF? Were you going to wait for the anthrax to hit Tel Aviv? THEN move in...as the French, Germans and Russians STILL scream about their 'interests' in Sodom's government?
The UN is what turned those moderates into terrorists...
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