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Nov 11, 2004 9:22:10 GMT -5
Post by Ampage on Nov 11, 2004 9:22:10 GMT -5
You disappoint. I was so looking forward to some new information in your post. But all I see are recycled theories. Did you go dumpster diving at Michael Moores or something?
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 9:22:49 GMT -5
Post by chrisfan on Nov 11, 2004 9:22:49 GMT -5
Thorny, I"m sorry to say I have not been keeping track. How many of these deep revelations and predicitons of yours have actually come true so far?
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 9:32:24 GMT -5
Post by pissin2 on Nov 11, 2004 9:32:24 GMT -5
Next thorn is going to be talking about planes disappearing in some triangle!
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 9:43:24 GMT -5
Post by Thorngrub on Nov 11, 2004 9:43:24 GMT -5
Thorny, I"m sorry to say I have not been keeping track. How many of these deep revelations and predicitons of yours have actually come true so far? ~ Ashcroft resigns. In his statement he actually said something to the effect of "We have completed every goal in our war against terror and met with resounding success" or something to that effect. I looked for the actual quote but couldn't find it here online. But I actually heard him say it last night on TV. Perhaps one of you who knows where to acquire the actual quote could post it for us. I was merely paraphrasing -- but I couldn't believe my ears when I heard him blatantly state something to that effect. ~ The Terror Alert has been reduced from Orange to Yellow in at least 5 Financial Institutions, causing a collective sigh of relief among employees there. ~ Bush has, obviously, been re-elected to his final term. ~ We stormed Fallujah. *Addtl salient points*: ~ Kerry is considering Un-Conceding: [from the johnshirley website: members4.boardhost.com/JohnShirley/msg/24589.html Kerry's considering unconceding and having a recount. He asked people to send firsthand experiences of disenfranchisement to his brother's law office and his office may be counting calls that are encouraging him to unconcede and ask for a recount! There has been massive evidence of voting fraud (see bottom for links) and there are 2 organizations you can support to uncover hard evidence of this fraud. In This Post (1)Call/fax Kerry's senate office, the DNC, and the Ohio Democratic Party (2)If you have first handexperience of voter disenfranchisement (not just articles) contact his brother (3) Support Two organizations that are uncovering hard evidence of fraud:blackboxvoting.org and votewatch.us
(1)Kerry can still request a recount in Ohio (and he may have the best chance of winning with a recount there)and perhaps elsewhere! He has until they count the provisional ballots 11-15 days after counting the provisionals. (It doesn't matter if he'll have a hostile Congress to work with because even if he can't get much done as president at least he would prevent the havoc and destruction of 4 more years of W in which our rights, environment,economy, social security, and our very lives are at stake!) When I called they put me through to someone who asked for my state: they seem to be adding them up! Contact Kerry at (202) 224-2742 -Phone (202) 224-8525 - Fax email form kerry.senate.gov/bandwidth/contact/email.html and urge him to unconcede and do a recount in Ohio (and perhaps elsewhere) Also contact the DNC about this since pressure from them either way would influence Kerry. This is their phone number: 202-863-8000 This is the page for their email address www.democrats.org/contact/
(2)If you have witnessed or experienced disenfranchisement you can contact his brother's law office--they are collecting this information which will be vital in considering unconceding at CKerry@Mintz.com (Don't just email articles or they will be inundated with emails. They already know about the articles.)
(3)Help These Two Organizations Prove Fraud There is anecdotal evidence of widespread fraud with the paperless voting machines. There are two groups working to uncover hard evidence who need your support (a) Please support the work of blackboxvoting.org-- which is the only group uncovering hard evidence of fraud of the paperless electronic voting machines--with donations and/or volunteer work--they need to raise $50,000 to file freedom of info act requests for as quickly as possible to pay for records and the fees some states charge for them. If you can't donate funds www.eservicescorp.com/form.aspx?fID=912 , please donate time.
E-mail to join the Cleanup Crew. (they need all types from doing grunt work, to lawyers and programers) crew@blackboxvoting.org (b) Please also contribute to Votewatch www.votewatch.us They need $250,000 to do a professional statistical analysis of the election which can be used as hard evidence. This is an excellent organization that has been conservative in its approach, using highly respected statisticians and developing trusted relationships with key media contacts. They are collecting and analyzing data to determine if there was fraud in the election as seems to be indicated by the 5% (or so) discrepancy between exit polls and reported results from the touch screen voting with no paper trail vs. the other types of voting where exit polls closely matched reported results. If you decide to move forward with a tax-deductible contribution, please make your check payable to Votewatch (ID# 94-3255070) and send it to: Votewatch c/o: The San Francisco Foundation Community Initiative Foundation (SFFCIF) Attn: David Barlow 225 Bush Street Suite 500 San Francisco, CA 94104
Smaller donations can be made online through the website www.votewatch.us
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - So that makes us even, Chrisfan: For it is I who is disappointed in YOU. Balances out I guess huh. Yes I am disappointed in that 51% demographic who are so naive & gullible as to literally not realize their collective wool HAVE been pulled over their eyes. It's called "BEING DUPED". Happens all the time. Main reason they're getting away with it is because they occupy the Highest Profile in the nation: kinda like when robbers get away with crimes directly across from the Police Station. Last place the cops would figure a criminal would strike: right before their very eyes / right on their front doorstep (so to speak). So yeah . . .I know how you feel when you say "you're disappointed in me". That disappointment is mutual. Wake Up to the criminals in the Oval Office. Looks as if it shall be up to us "Liberals" to actually motivate ourselves into doing something about it. The rest of you can go back to sleep.
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 9:51:31 GMT -5
Post by chrisfan on Nov 11, 2004 9:51:31 GMT -5
Is there another Chrisfan around here? You quote what I said to you, then repeat your post that led to my question, add to it, and say that you understand when I say I'm dissapointed in you. Only, my post didnt' say I was dissapointed in you. So I'm assuming this is another one of those rambles I'm neither to pay attention to nor to respond to. Sorry for interrupting.
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 9:53:32 GMT -5
Post by Ampage on Nov 11, 2004 9:53:32 GMT -5
David Barlow is one desperate pup.
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 9:53:34 GMT -5
Post by pissin2 on Nov 11, 2004 9:53:34 GMT -5
He's really considering un conceding? Can you do that? That's fucking stupid. That jerk should have just waited for all the votes to be counted. We all knew there was voter fraud and all the other shit all over the country the minute the voting started.
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 9:59:49 GMT -5
Post by Ampage on Nov 11, 2004 9:59:49 GMT -5
And there ALWAYS has been.
He probably got bitchslapped by Teresa.
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 10:04:14 GMT -5
Post by Thorngrub on Nov 11, 2004 10:04:14 GMT -5
Next thorn is going to be talking about planes disappearing in some triangle! I am so disappointed in you Pissin.
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 10:12:20 GMT -5
Post by pissin2 on Nov 11, 2004 10:12:20 GMT -5
I didn't ask you if you were disappointed in me.
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Nov 11, 2004 10:19:41 GMT -5
Post by Thorngrub on Nov 11, 2004 10:19:41 GMT -5
Is there another Chrisfan around here? You quote what I said to you, then repeat your post that led to my question, add to it, and say that you understand when I say I'm dissapointed in you. Only, my post didnt' say I was dissapointed in you. So I'm assuming this is another one of those rambles I'm neither to pay attention to nor to respond to. Sorry for interrupting. Huh -? wha -? *rubs out eyes* Here was your direct question, which I *thought* was addressed to *moi*: (and I quoth): " How many of these deep revelations and predicitons of yours have actually come true so far?" Hence I repeated my post, putting in boldface the actual things that have come true so far. I never said they were my "predictions". I have merely cited them as evidence that something fishy is going on. If you can't see that Bush is using the evangelical demographic to bolster the "moral justification" of his war in order to *take attention away from the fact* that all he is succeeding in is GETTING FILTHY RICH OFF THE WAR MACHINE, then you truly are as blind as you are gullible. As for Pissin: What the hell is wrong with you? I thought you were on the same page (or are you just pulling a "Kerry", you wishy-washy bastard! j/k 'bermuda triangle' my ass. This is real, this is going on, you of all people should be able to see that. "What's Going On?" sings APC, well look around you! The wool is getting pulled over our eyes while we get taken advantage of at the expense of our sons & daughters very lives, THAT's "What's Going On" for crying out loud. Unless you wanna "step away from the window & go back to sleep" with the rest of em...
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 10:23:33 GMT -5
Post by Thorngrub on Nov 11, 2004 10:23:33 GMT -5
He's really considering un conceding? Can you do that? That's fucking stupid. That jerk should have just waited for all the votes to be counted. We all knew there was voter fraud and all the other shit all over the country the minute the voting started. I agree man. I was as disappointed as you when he conceded so soon. Who knows why. Probably to save his own skin at the last possible moment. Realized he was in over his head with these fucking sharks patrolling the waters. Probably figured "let Em eat their chum; I'll come back after the blood red tides clear back to sea-green". But yeah, that shit I posted above is fucking real. He is considering Un-Conceding. Part of his "wishy-washy" nature, obviously. What it really is, is he has become emboldened to try and actually do something about the fucking criminals in office. It's called a recount. And it's called meteing out justice to the criminals who would otherwise get away with crimes against humanity. I thought you were awake and clear eyed and seeing out the window to what's going on. Don't go back to sleep Pissin.
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 10:25:17 GMT -5
Post by Ampage on Nov 11, 2004 10:25:17 GMT -5
Thorny, where exactly do you keep your super hero cape?
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 10:27:18 GMT -5
Post by chrisfan on Nov 11, 2004 10:27:18 GMT -5
That does it. I can't take it anymore. Pass the forks, my eyes are gone.
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CE 7
Nov 11, 2004 10:30:10 GMT -5
Post by pissin2 on Nov 11, 2004 10:30:10 GMT -5
I'm not going back to sleep. I'm just saying he shouldn't have conceded. He should have just stuck it to the man right then and there if he was really concerned. He should have brought out all the legal guns and all the voter fraud recounts possible right then and there on Nov. 2nd. Now no one's even going to take him seriously. I think he went back to sleep for a while, now he's trying to wake up but it's just too late.
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