CE 7

[stratman19]

Watched Special Report w/ Brit Hume tonight. They had a Democratic pollster on, discussing the ramifications of the constitutional amendments prohibiting gay marriage in the battleground states.

He said their research showed that the Democrats lost this issue by big margins across all voting groups. Of course Conservatives supported these measures. But so did 61% of blacks, 59% of young voters in Ohio, 50% in Michigan, and a large percentage of Democratic voters that voted for Kerry. Also, a large percentage of Union households. Wish I could have remembered all the statistics but I can't.

When all the data is in, I think we can put to rest the myth that only conservatives wanted these measures. I think you can thank a handful of judges in Massachusetts, and the mayor of San Francisco for this. People want a say in this, they don't want thousands of years of accepted norms overturned by judicial fiat (IMO).

[Rit]

Yasser Arafat is finally dead. Good riddance.

good riddance? not really.

[pissin2]

JACkory said:

You totally misunderstood what I said. That doesn't surprise me, as you seem so hell-bent on winning some elusive argument.
What I said was that there is a perception amongst unbelievers that Christians think they have it all sussed out. I never said anything that would elicit a response such as "it's the totally opposite. I think they have nothing sussed out".
You see, I DID NOT ASK YOU WHAT YOU THOUGHT. I think I already had a good enough understanding of "what you think" about this topic to have been redundant enough to express a need to have it reiterated.
The statement was made primarilly as a response to Thorny's bit about how Christians supposedly think they are right while everyone else is wrong. So what I said, in a nutshell, was that this mindset is likely a result of the unbeliever's PERCEPTION that Christians THINK THEY'VE GOT IT ALL SUSSED OUT, when in actuality most Christians I know, myself included, are just as "in the dark" about a lot of things as anyone else.
Do you see how you've misinterpreted my statement?
And do you also see how you've used that misinterpretation to once again assume a condescending, arrogant pose in your claim that Christians have "NOTHING" sussed out?

You really need to pay more attention to what people are actually saying before you spout off more of your vitriol.

Once again I didn't know I was involved in an argument. But you and some other people seem to be hellbent on thinking that.
You did not ask me what I thought? Well hooray for you. Guess what, I still fucking told you. That's kind of what I do when I post. You were talking about what some non believers think, and being a non believer I decided to tell you what I think. Understand? I didn't misinterpret anything. If you didn't want to keep hearing about the redundant topic than stop fucking talking about it. Same thing I said to everyone else that calls it a redundant topic. I wasn't being arrogant at all. I was just telling you what I think. Next time you don't want to hear what I think - DON'T FUCKING TALK TO ME ABOUT IT. It's really not that fucking hard.

[chrisfan]

Pissin2 said:

Next time you don't want to hear what I think - DON'T FUCKING TALK TO ME ABOUT IT. It's really not that fucking hard.

Maybe I'm just too concerned about details, but didn't this entire thing start with your pontificating that (and I'm paraphrasing here) religion was essentially a joke that people didn't need in their lives? So in other words, not fucking talking to you about it did no good. You expressed your views without being asked.

[Ampage]

Save your phalanges Chris, it never comprehends.

[pissin2]

Sorry, from now on I wont express my views until I'm asked to. Until then I will sit like a good boy with my hands folded waiting for someone to call on me.

[Ampage]

Promise?

[JACkory]

Pissin, ya got a little testy when I said I didn't ask you what you thought...of course, you probably didn't notice that I also wrote that the REASON I didn't ask you what you thought on that particular aspect of the topic was because I ALREADY KNEW what you thought...but God forbid you are denied an opportunity to get all defensive, as you seem to relish those moments.
And you still fail to acknowledge that you completely and totally misinterpreted what I had written, once again avoiding the issue and steering it into a different direction.
You're pretty good at that.
But the fact remains that you spouted off your unsolicited, narrowminded, and face it, WRONG opinion about the importance of religion in the gestalt and now you tell ME to "don't fucking talk to you about it"? ? ? ?
That's pathetic.

[chrisfan]

Pissin2 said:

Sorry, from now on I wont express my views until I'm asked to. Until then I will sit like a good boy with my hands folded waiting for someone to call on me.

Say whatever you want about whatever you want anytime you want. Just make sure that if it's on a topic that people feel passionate about that you have thick enough skin to handle the responses. If you don't, then you probably are better to sit like a good boy with your hands folded waiting for someone to call on you.

[pissin2]

Can there really be such a thing as a wrong opinion?

[JACkory]

Pissin2 said:

Can there really be such a thing as a wrong opinion?

That's one of the stupidest thigs I have ever seen on these boards or anywhere else for that matter.

Let's see...Osama bin Laden is of the opinion that it's okay to kill thousands of people for his cause. But can there really be such a thing as a wrong opinion?

Hitler was of the opinion that the Jewish race needed to be eliminated from the planet, but cn there really be such a thing as a wrong opinion?

Jeffrey Dahmer was of the opinion that liver was tastier than kidneys, but can there really be such a thing as a wrong opinion?

Charles Manson was of the opinion that he was God himself, but can there really be such a thing as a wrong opinion?

Do I have to go on?

[Ampage]

Give him a few minutes to figure out a way to say he didn’t mean that or was just kidding.

[pissin2]

Well it's your opinion that their opinion is wrong (and my opinion as well) But it's their opinion that their opinion is right, so who's to say who's right and who's wrong when it's all a matter of opinion?

[Ampage]

You have spoken out of turn, to the corner with you!

[Thorngrub]

Finally figured out what them sneaky ol ' 'Publicans are up to. Bush Admin and all. Yeppers, I can't believe I didn't see this clearly beforehand:

Bush and his administration's one and only motive is easy to see, suddenly. The tell-tale signs are already beginning to be reflected in the media:

~ Ashcroft resigns. In his statement he actually said something to the effect of "We have completed every goal in our war against terror and met with resounding success" or something to that effect. I looked for the actual quote but couldn't find it here online. But I actually heard him say it last night on TV. Perhaps one of you who knows where to acquire the actual quote could post it for us. I was merely paraphrasing -- but I couldn't believe my ears when I heard him blatantly state something to that effect.

~The Terror Alert has been reduced from Orange to Yellow in at least 5 Financial Institutions, causing a collective sigh of relief among employees there.

~Bush has, obviously, been re-elected to his final term.

~Presidents (traditionally) only get 2 terms.

~We stormed Fallujah.

I am sure we will be seeing even more signs of America's resounding "success" in this administration's campaign on terror. What a hero we have in the Oval Office. The rest of the world is on the verge of showering the skies with confetti on behalf of the Triumphant Americans.

What all this tells me is simple. The entire "scheme" engendered with a superlative brilliance and business- sense eclipsing that of the most evil comic-villain's genius has finally had it's final variable put into place: namely, that of Bush's re-election.

The plan was simple: merely to maximize their profit-margin in boosting sales via the oil industry and to literally profit from the "war machine". In this endeavor President Bush has succeeded admirably. It is my belief that he is not really interested in "Power" as much as he was interested in succeeding at the American Dream of getting richer than any other group of individuals in the history of the human race. The profits engendered by the Bush Administration's agenda is literally so far beyond the highest pie-in-the-sky dreams of even the most ambitious American entrepeneurs that one must stand back in a sort of awe at their accomplishment. Howard Hughes' skeleton is grinning from ear to ear down there six foot under, as must be all the dead & buried financiers of this great and powerful nation.

And if Kerry doesn't succeed in his "Un-conceding" that he is considering (you've heard about that already, haven't ya?), then all that means is that Bushie & Co. will have actually succeeded in getting away with it.

All that the current administration needed was a simple (51% or more) majority of the American People to pull the wool over their eyes. With the "majority" of the American People backing him . . . he & his cronies could all waltz away the richest men in the history of earth.

Pretty sickening huh.