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Post by poseidon on Oct 25, 2006 12:36:53 GMT -5
Poor Hillary. It's all based in jealousy anyhoo's. I mean why do people really hate her? What has she done, or hasn't done that make people hate her?
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Post by phil on Oct 25, 2006 13:00:36 GMT -5
Dear Abby:
My husband is a liar and a cheat. He has cheated on me from the beginning, and, when I confront him, he denies everything. What’s worse, everyone knows that he cheats on me. It is so humiliating. Also, since he lost his job five years ago, he hasn’t even looked for a new one. All he does all day is smoke cigars, cruise around and bullshit with his buddies while I have to work to pay the bills. Since our daughter went away to college he doesn’t even pretend to like me and hints that I may be a lesbian. What should I do?
Signed, Clueless
Dear Clueless:
Grow up and dump him. Good grief, woman. You don’t need him anymore. You’re a United States Senator from New York. Act like one.
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Post by phil on Oct 25, 2006 13:12:23 GMT -5
Hillary got no chance of being elected president
unless she runs against Condy Rice !!
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Post by kmc on Oct 25, 2006 13:20:50 GMT -5
I have no feelings about Hillary either way, but I would like to know why so many people hate her.
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Post by phil on Oct 25, 2006 13:39:50 GMT -5
Ask her how she feels about Guns - Gays - God - Government(taxes)
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Post by Galactus on Oct 25, 2006 13:54:15 GMT -5
Alot of people think she's very cold and manipulative, which I think is just from being a very strong, driven woman. My problem with is that she's completely uprooted her stance on pretty well everything in the last couple of years and I feel like her "new" positions are based entirely on what she thinks will get her elected. She just seems very phony these days...and republicans hate her becuase she's a democrat who's seen actually have a chance of being the first female president. A milestone that would carry alot of political weight. Not mention the over all general hate for the Clintons from the right, even though, as Skvor so loves to point out, they weren't very liberal at all. They were too effective and playing for the wrong team and therefore most be destroyed.
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Post by strat-0 on Oct 25, 2006 14:33:11 GMT -5
The Republicans would love nothing so much as for Hillary to win the nomination.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 25, 2006 15:06:24 GMT -5
It could be due to the fact that she was a lawyer for the Nixon administration..............
Just sayin........
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Post by phil on Oct 25, 2006 15:20:02 GMT -5
Speaking of electronic voting machines ...
Use of electronic voting machines in Quebec municipal elections was a fiasco
QUEBEC (CP) - The use of electronic machines to count ballots cast in last year's municipal elections was a fiasco, Quebec's chief electoral officer said Tuesday.
"The major problems that were encountered during the polling and the release of results have eroded the confidence of many people regarding the new methods of voting," said Marcel Blanchet, who released a report Tuesday on the failures of electronic voting used last year.
Machines were used in 140 municipalities, including Montreal and Quebec City. Problems included blackouts and a delay in the transmission of results.
Blanchet said he can't be entirely certain that some candidates weren't robbed of victory.
"We take the results as they are and we live with that," he said.
"I think we now have to turn the page and accept the official results even though there were errors in some cases that can't be proved."
Blanchet recommended that a moratorium on the use of the machines be maintained until the governments adopts security standards.
The machines weren't quicker, more economical and more accurate than manual counting, he said.
"They didn't live up to their promise."
One of the suppliers of electronic voting machines underestimated its ability to simultaneously service several municipalities, said the lengthy report.
Even though he authorized the use of the machines, Blanchet refused to accept the blame for the problems and wouldn't point the finger at others.
He proposed 20 recommendations, including the call for a group of experts to develop strict security standards.
The required oversight and changes should force the government to consider whether the benefits of the system are worth the added cost, he said.
As a result of the report, Municipal Affairs Minister Nathalie Normandeau said the government would maintain a moratorium on the use of electronic machines.
Of course, it helps that we don't get to vote
for many different offices in a single election ...
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Post by Mary on Oct 25, 2006 16:23:09 GMT -5
It could be due to the fact that she was a lawyer for the Nixon administration.............. Just sayin........ Huh?? Are you sure?? I know Hillary was a Republican early in her life (she came from a very conservative family) but also that she changed her politics in college - eventually she campaigned for George McGovern, and she advised the House Judiciary Committee during the Nixon impeachment trials, and was anti-Nixon at the time. When was she a lawyer for the Nixon administration? Anyway, even if she was, this has nothing at all to do with why most people hate her. I've never heard this raised before today, in fact, and I'm still not even sure if it's true. M |
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 25, 2006 16:41:39 GMT -5
I'm 99% sure that Hillary was never a lawyer for Nixon. She was already active in the Democratic party by '72, after all.
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Post by Galactus on Oct 25, 2006 16:43:47 GMT -5
Her Lawyering history according to Wikipedia...
In 1969, Rodham entered Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of Yale Review of Law and Social Action and worked with underprivileged children at the Yale-New Haven Hospital. During the summer of 1970, she was awarded a grant to work at the Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts. During the summer of 1971, she traveled to Washington to work on Senator Walter Mondale's subcommittee on migrant workers, researching migrant problems in housing, sanitation, health and education. For the summer of 1972, Rodham worked in the western states for Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern's campaign. During her second year in law school, she volunteered at the Yale Child Study Center, learning about new research on early childhood brain development. She also took on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital and worked at the city Legal Services, providing free legal service to the poor. She received a Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree from Yale in 1973, having written a thesis on the rights of children[5], and began a year of post-graduate study on children and medicine at the Yale Child Study Center
During her post-graduate study, Rodham served as staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund, and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children [9]. She joined the presidential impeachment inquiry staff advising the Judiciary Committee of the United States House of Representatives during the Watergate Scandal. Rodham became a faculty member (one of only two women in the faculty) at the University of Arkansas, Fayetteville School of Law, where her Yale Law School classmate and boyfriend Bill Clinton was teaching as well. In 1975, Rodham and Clinton were married and moved to Little Rock, Arkansas. In 1976, Hillary Rodham joined the venerable and influential Rose Law Firm, specializing in intellectual property cases while doing child advocacy cases pro bono. In 1979, she became the first woman to be made a full partner of Rose Law Firm.[10] President Jimmy Carter appointed Rodham to the board of the Legal Services Corporation in 1978.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 25, 2006 16:45:24 GMT -5
Ok........
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 25, 2006 16:46:08 GMT -5
FYI, the Legal Services Corporation is the federal entity that funds local legal aid centers. That's where most of the money for legal services for the poor, specifically civil legal services for the poor, comes from.
I had no idea that she was on that board.
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Post by kmc on Oct 25, 2006 16:49:45 GMT -5
People hate her because she is an ambitious woman. Let's be honest. It's the same reason why the same people who hate Hillary love Laura Bush.
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