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Post by kmc on Aug 18, 2005 8:54:08 GMT -5
And pure diplomacy, with no related military action, creates lasting peace even less frequently. So where does that lead us? Though that is arguable, supposing that it is true, that leaves us looking for a better way to create meaningful peace in these modern/post modern times, perhaps a way that won't sacrifice so many young people for the pure subjugation of one ideology over another. |
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Post by Thorngrub on Aug 24, 2005 12:17:28 GMT -5
Whoa, nelly, hold yer horses youngster: "...looking for a better way to create meaningful peace" - ? You don't think -- even for a second -- that we're interested in that now, do ya -?
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Post by RocDoc on Aug 24, 2005 12:39:34 GMT -5
It must really suck to live in your purely greed-driven bloodthirsty and avaricious perception of a world, thorn...
....perhaps a way that won't sacrifice so many young people for the pure subjugation of one ideology over another.
And if the other ideology is hell-bent on subjugating you? Which, it should be obvious, includes these precious and sacred young people you've cited?
Nor are they being 'sacrificed'...they're fighting for an objective with full hope that they're coming back home. This isn't a 'lambs led to the slaughter' situation of passivity, which the word 'sacrifice' pretty much requires.
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Post by kmc on Aug 24, 2005 14:21:28 GMT -5
Obviously, my comments apply not just to the US, but to humanity in general and understandings of war. I never said that the US alone should seek out a means to end warfare. I propose that it is in the best interest of humanity to not propagate the cycle of violence which warfare undoubtedly guarantees.
I am not gonna argue this. You and I both know how upset you're prone to get when I start nitpicking on the meaning of words. I am gonna let that one go.
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Post by Thorngrub on Aug 24, 2005 15:54:27 GMT -5
Roc: "It must purely suck yaddda yadda yadda blah blah blah *BELCH*\*fart*\etc"
Well Mr. Roc sir, I'll have you know for your intolerable self edification, that I am the most positive-energy, forward-thinking, enthusiastic, bright & cheery, not to mention naturally damn happy person I've ever encountered. So, um...well, I don't know what to tell ya, ya old Coot, except that MY life is pure sunshine & roses, from dawn to dusk, and on until midnight, when I rest my weary head on me pillow, and enjoy the soundest sleep this side of Rip Van Winkle, only I get up promptly at 6:00 am every day, and look forward to heading up to the hospital for my mundane, blue collar, low-paying job. I'm the happiest I've ever been, and I couldn't imagine being more content.
It's like I was telling my Mom the other day, "You know somethin' Mom, I've accomplished everything in life I've set out to do". So I don't know what "sucks" in your book, but I'd stay away from it.
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Post by Thorngrub on Aug 24, 2005 15:59:13 GMT -5
"greed-driven, blood-thirsty and avaricious", eh? Look you redundant old fool, "avarice" and "greed" are the same thing, m'k? Try to trim down the language a bit, save on the carpal-tunnel syndrome bills. And by the way, 'tis not I who is "blood-thirsty"; rather, on the contrary, it is the Enemies Of Earth who are the "blood-thirsty" ones. And They are the ones I will rage against until the day I personally get to watch over their unmarked graves. You can be sure I shall cast no flowers upon them, I would not even give them the benefit of my spit. These enemies are the hypocrites and bumbling, drug-damaged fanatics you see trying to run our country into the ground, something which they're succeeding at quite admirably, I must admit.
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Post by RocDoc on Aug 24, 2005 18:05:46 GMT -5
Well Mr. Roc sir, I'll have you know for your intolerable self edification, that I am the most positive-energy, forward-thinking, enthusiastic, bright & cheery, not to mention naturally damn happy person I've ever encountered.
BUT you're convinced that everyone 'else', those who do not blankly rubber-stamp your mantra of 'BushevilbloodforoilliesliesliesLIES!' as their personal credo are the distillation the most insipid of Machiavellian machinations ALL the time, 24 /7.
You have zero faith that anyone else can approach this perfect zen you boast here of having attained.
That's a fucking bleak outlook, don't you see?
Oh.It's that lack of nuance-thing again. I feel bad for you I do.
Coot? Fuck off asshole.
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Post by Thorngrub on Aug 24, 2005 19:20:59 GMT -5
Well Mr. Roc sir, I'll have you know for your intolerable self edification, that I am the most positive-energy, forward-thinking, enthusiastic, bright & cheery, not to mention naturally damn happy person I've ever encountered.BUT you're convinced that everyone 'else', those who do not blankly rubber-stamp your mantra of 'BushevilbloodforoilliesliesliesLIES!' as their personal credo are the distillation the most insipid of Machiavellian machinations ALL the time, 24 /7. You have zero faith that anyone else can approach this perfect zen you boast here of having attained. That's a fucking bleak outlook, don't you see? Oh.It's that lack of nuance-thing again. I feel bad for you I do. Coot? Fuck off asshole. Naw man, it ain't like that. I don't think y'all are the "distillation" of anything but yer own states of mind, yo. As for having "zero" faith that anyone else can approach my "perfect state of zen", *pshaw*, anyone can do it man! You just haveta LET GO of the power-structure's various tentacles that have slithered their way unsuspectingly around your heart and begun squeezing just enough to keep you in their idealist pogrom, thas all. Relax man, soak up some sunshine or somethin. Are you seriously asking me, are you saying "Don't you see?" to THAT being a bleak outlook - - what-?- you mean your assessment of ME? yeah, I agree, it's fackin bleak man. I'm not like all that. Yer assessment of me is bleak indeed. Why should you feel "bad" for me? My life is great, I'm a freedom fighter in salt lake city, keepin it real, unpluggin from the Matrix, tryin to set a nice example for folks, to stop *sucking from the multiple teats of industry* & get a clue, wake up, try drinking water, throw away some money, do somethin you never done before, just SAY NO to their institutionalized, mandated, soulless corporate and painfully dry circle jerk. But I like that mantra YOU came up with (I think I'll use it): BushevilbloodforoilliesliesLIES, BushevilbloodforoilliesliesLIES, BUSH EVIL BLOOD FOR OIL LIES LIES LIES LIES LIIEEEESSSSS, ALL LIES!!!!   Ahhhh . . . .*feel better now*  thanx, roccer |
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Post by kmc on Aug 24, 2005 21:36:44 GMT -5
But where does one get a Rock Doctorate?
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 24, 2005 21:55:48 GMT -5
Jack Black hands 'em out.
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Post by stratman19 on Aug 24, 2005 22:03:17 GMT -5
Yeah, and ol' Dewey even plays a Gibson SG. That's where I got my doctorate.
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Post by RocDoc on Aug 25, 2005 15:14:36 GMT -5
I honestly cannot understand why with your Emerson College and U of Va super-duper educations of distinctions (in lit or writing or some such shit, right thorn?) that someone pointing out...wait. Check that. Trying to simply point out that your saying 'Wheew! I shore WISH with all my being that someone around here was for peace, if just a little bit...' definitely means that you think that THEY all have no interest in peaceful solutions(if one truly for CERTAIN existed); that THEY are simply interested in MALICIOUSLY sending their sacred youth into what they fully know is a meat grinder. This is you thorn, appending MALICE to the intentions of all of THOSE people, don't you see? This is definitely not me saying that you don't lead a satisfied, righteous (and self-righteous at times, obviously) and happy life. Yes you feel like your doing the right things for all the right reasons and at the right time, BUT (what I DID say there) is that you've got this self-righteousness fully displayed in the sentence that you used which I quoted and commented on, prompting your ignorant distortion of what I said, by saying that NO-one on this other side, whether in government, whether your 'opposition' here...that NO-one gives a fuck about peace. And THAT is what I was commenting on when I said It must really suck to live in your purely greed-driven bloodthirsty and avaricious perception of a world, thorn...
...your...perception...Which you seeme to have chosen to miss entirely. Because I do NOT think you're that thick. I wasn't commenting on your life, your happiness, your achievements or a presumed lack thereof. But commenting your immense negativity that none of us who throw 'opposition' to some of your often goony-as-shit peaceable meanderings has an interest in peace. But where does one get a Rock Doctorate?Since it stems from the same ignorance misinterpretation of my comment to thorn, why the piling on bullshit of 'Oh Doc, YOU think you're so-o-o fucking rigght', but apart from that touching camaraderie you and he share... Oh....it'll require 25-30 more years of living for you...some experience. Get out see the fucking world with both eyes and less prejudice. You'll need to stop seeing YOURself as the Crown of God's Creation fully formed for a certain period of time. ~ 'Greed-driven' and 'avariciousness' were placed there precisely FOR the redundancy they showed in your (now self-approved) thinking/mantra of 'greedgreedbloodforoilfuckinggrEED!' which again is the part of your very NEGATIVE sidebar of a mindset I tried to point out... Whatever you wanna think...but as long as you think you need to twist ANY comment I make here around this way, you'd say I should perhaps just keep quiet? Go away? Well, fuck you. No. I'm interested in how such happy hardworking highly educated people can CHOOSE to talk out of their asses due to a perceived ongoing and apparently eternal personality clash here. Please now, correct my punctuation for me again Mr Fucking Emerson... |
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Post by Thorngrub on Aug 25, 2005 15:40:47 GMT -5
Roc. Roc. I just read the first 3 lines of your above post - and I swear I'll read the rest -- but first I wanna say how cum you assume that what I post is some sort of Final & Absolute Analysis, or Ultimate Statement or whatever? It's only my opinion man. What -? Am I not allowed to have one? Or express it? You read ALL this bullcrapola into my statements, I don't know how you do it, but instead of making an ass out of you or me, just settle and try holding back on the assumptions, and instead take what I say with more of a grain of salt, fer cryin out loud.
Dude - I'll try and honor your reply above by going back, reading the whole damn thing, and addressing whatever points you're goin on about, but remember man, if I say something like "Whoa, nelly, hold yer horses youngster: "...looking for a better way to create meaningful peace" - ? You don't think -- even for a second -- that we're interested in that now, do ya -? ", can't you for one second keep your brakes on and realize I'm largely "making small talk" with the ol' tongue a tad in the cheek, AS WELL AS being halfway serious, can't you just accept that's my style, bein a smartass, and not get your panties in a wad about it ?
If you simply responded with a quiet, controlled "So Thorn do you seriously believe we do not wish to be working towards peace?", why then I'd reply in due course (after removing my tongue from its cheek), and I'm sure you can see how this would "pave" the way towards a brief, meaningful exchange between us.
Instead, you BLOW UP like a dirty radioactive nuke ALL OVER the place, spittle flyin so as to cover the screen, I need windshield wipers just to see what you wrote.
Anyway, that's my piece for now, like I said, I'll return and read your entire prior post in earnest and try responding in like manner. gotta run for now, gotta page
later
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Post by kmc on Aug 25, 2005 15:56:50 GMT -5
RocDoc, here you go: www.realdoll.com/It's expensive, I'll admit. Still, for someone with as advanced a condition as yours, the real doll seems like a cheaper alternative to the tens of thousands you must spend every year on anger management. Hell, it might even help your reading comprehension. |
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Post by shin on Aug 25, 2005 18:57:16 GMT -5
I honestly cannot understand why with your Emerson College and U of Va super-duper educations of distinctions (in lit or writing or some such shit, right thorn?) that someone pointing out...wait. Check that. Trying to simply point out that your saying 'Wheew! I shore WISH with all my being that someone around here was for peace, if just a little bit...' |
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Ahhhh . . . .*feel better now* 
thanx, roccer