JACkory
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Post by JACkory on Oct 14, 2005 19:23:41 GMT -5
I know I've heard of Wilco, and I'm pretty damn sure that I've heard some of their songs, but I've got to honestly tell you that if I hear the name Wilco, there is not a single song that pops into my head. That is sacrilige enough to a few around here that it would automatically eliminate my "right" to discuss music. You know, when I hear the name Wilco the same thing happens...not a single song pops into my head...the weird thing is that I own 4 of their CDs and have actually listened to most of 'em. It's just one of my blind spots, that's all. Someday I may find myself head over heels in love with them, but not today. Am I going to let that discourage me from blabbing about music? No way. It's one of the few topics that I really KNOW that I KNOW about, and actually feel comfortable voicing an opinion on. And everyone knows it's just MY opinion, not gonna force it down anyone's throat. But by the same token, I'll defend it when necessary. But it's all so subjective anyway, right? Take it from a former music snob, the key to dealing with 'em is to have a firm understanding of a fact that oftentimes eludes them: IT'S JUST MUSIC. It's only as important as you make it, and yeah, a lot of folks make too much of it (myself included, admittedly) but you starve a man for a couple of weeks and then put him in a room with a bowl of chili and an iPod loaded with his playlist of "essential" songs and it's a safe bet he'll have chili breath before the earphones have found their way into his auditory cavities. I think it's cool to have a passion for certain artists/bands in common with others here, but if I'm the only one on the face of the planet who likes a particular group, so what? They're my ears, it's my brain, my heart, my emotions...I don't need anyone else's stamp of approval to profess a love for an obscure or unpopular band (or genre of music...I think I'm the only one here with a fondness for contemporary Christian music, but I still post about those kind of albums when I listen to them on the "What are you Listening to?" board...). But, then again, I don't think a passion (or even a taste) for music has been, or should be a pre-requisite for posting here (nor was it at RS, because RS has always been known just as much for it's liberal political stance and focus on pop culture as for music). Most folks here just come that way. Wilco Schmilco. |
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Post by chrisfan on Oct 14, 2005 20:42:23 GMT -5
I see what you're saying Jac, and I agree with it. I think it's really just the difference between a passion and a hobby. Politics, childrens literature, tennis, gardening - those are all passions of mine. You make the mistake of telling me that there are bugs eating your zinnias, and you'll get all sorts of information from me on how to figure out what kind of bugs they are and how to treat them. You make the mistake of mentioning childrens books (chapter or picture) and I'll give you a reading list a mile long.
Music, it's a hobby for me. I like it. I get excited about the CDs I buy and the concerts I go to. But it's not the same for me as my passions. And while it bothers me enough if someone mentions the line of succession to the presidency and I don't the full succession that well enough to correct them with confidence that I'll memorize that line so I never have that problem again, with music, it justdoes not bother me. Now my interest in music is big enough that I get excited about other people's passion for it - it was reading posts on these boards that I first grasped the notion of appreciating an album as a full presentation of music rather than just a collection of a bunch of songs (actually, I even remember that it was a Ken post about Tunnel of Love that first knocked that idea in my head). I've been introduced to some music because of these boards which I never would have listened to before. I READ some of the music boards, I just don't feel passionate enough about it to post all that much. I had thought it was because I wasn't confident enough in my opinions, but as I think about it more, it may just be that I'm actually humble enough to recognize that I can learn more by shutting up and listening to the people who are more passionate about it than I am.
But really, lets' be honest ... how much more patheticaly high would my post count be if my passion for music was as strong as my passion for other topics?!?! I GOTTA shut up about SOMETHING!!!!
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 14, 2005 20:59:54 GMT -5
Ya know, I'm still floored and humbled when someone tells me that they "got" something because of me ... whether it's about music, law, social theory, whatever. So thanks, Chrisfan, I appreciate the fact that one of my raves on Tunnel of Love flipped a switch for you.
And now get that top fifteen UK bands list submitted!
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JACkory
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Post by JACkory on Oct 14, 2005 21:02:04 GMT -5
I had thought it was because I wasn't confident enough in my opinions, but as I think about it more, it may just be that I'm actually humble enough to recognize that I can learn more by shutting up and listening to the people who are more passionate about it than I am.
That's how I am with the political threads.
Music (and musicians) is just such a big part of who I am and has been since I was an 8 year old whippersnapper. If I knew as much about medicine as I do about music I would probably be a successful doctor...
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JACkory
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Post by JACkory on Oct 14, 2005 21:07:42 GMT -5
Ya know, I'm still floored and humbled when someone tells me that they "got" something because of me ... whether it's about music, law, social theory, whatever. I think I've turned a few people on to Sigur Ros who are now pretty hardcore fans, and yes, it is gratifying. Passion, I've found, can be contagious. I've considered writing up an essay, like the old RS.com days, of the thematic aspects of Tunnel of Love with an emphasis on how it treats the different aspects of it's topic, and putting it on the blog...That album, along with The Rising are excellent examples of the sum being greater than it's parts (and the parts are pretty doggone fantastic taken alone as well...). |
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Post by alexiscarrington on Feb 22, 2006 21:33:41 GMT -5
Because of chatting with Chrisfan since I was roughly 16 and disagreeing with her on everything yet still coexisting with her in a sense of semi peace I've become a more open minded person and tried to expose myself to different view points and ideas in the real world...fast forward to tonight where I went to a speech by Ann Coulter put on by my university and I feel like my ears would have every right to have me arrested for cruelty!
That is why I HATE her!
;D
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Post by rockysigman on Aug 3, 2006 10:17:51 GMT -5
Because she deletes posts simply because she doesn't like them, regardless of whether or not they're off-topic, flaming, or anything else.
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Post by Fuzznuts on Aug 3, 2006 10:18:39 GMT -5
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 3, 2006 10:20:43 GMT -5
Because she deletes posts simply because she doesn't like them, regardless of whether or not they're off-topic, flaming, or anything else. God aren't you clueless Rocky. The only reason I ever delete anything is to piss you off and get a rise out of you. And it work every time. And you really need to come up with another 9 for it to qualify for this board.  |
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Post by rockysigman on Aug 3, 2006 10:28:18 GMT -5
Does that mean I'm off topic? Are you going to delete my post?
I mean, Fuzz's post wasn't off topic, nor particularly mean, and you deleted that anyway, so I guess it doesn't have to be either for you to delete it.
I know you don't delete anything just to piss me off. You do it because you have to show everyone that you're in control all the time.
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 3, 2006 10:34:12 GMT -5
Rocky, you have been begging and baiting for some sort of fight with me for almost a week now. I'm not interested. Please, go play solitaire or something. You don't like me. I don't like you. We've established that. If you don't like the way I moderate boards, you're more than welcome not to participate. You have that freedom.
If you're bored at work, please ask your supervisor for something more to do. I'm not here to be your entertainment today.
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Post by Galactus on Aug 3, 2006 10:42:14 GMT -5
Are you deleting all posts now?
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Post by rockysigman on Aug 3, 2006 10:43:19 GMT -5
Rocky, you have been begging and baiting for some sort of fight with me for almost a week now. I'm not interested. Please, go play solitaire or something. You don't like me. I don't like you. We've established that. If you don't like the way I moderate boards, you're more than welcome not to participate. You have that freedom. If you're bored at work, please ask your supervisor for something more to do. I'm not here to be your entertainment today. I don't think I have even posted anything directed towards you in several days, other than a few in which we were in agreement with each other, but whatever. I'm sorry that I actually enjoy the community on these boards, and I hate to see a moderator run amok, that's all. That's seriously all this is about. Oh well. |
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Post by rockysigman on Aug 3, 2006 11:07:27 GMT -5
Anyway, I really would like to discuss Dog Bites Man with Luke, but apparently you've blocked me from posting on that board. Is there somewhere else I can post on that show, or am I banned from discussing TV shows all together now?
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Post by chrisfan on Aug 3, 2006 11:25:13 GMT -5
I'm going to unlock that board shortly. It was locked to wait out people calming down.
I appreciate your frustration over moderating decisions that you disagree with. I've certainly disagreed with some decisions that have been made too. But does being frustrated give you free reign to do whatever you want until you get your way? I'd say that at some point, you have to accept that what is done is done, and while you may not agree with it, you don't get to dictate how it is going to be. There are going to be differing points of view on such issues - it's inevitable. But as I said, if the way I'm handling it is so unacceptable -- don't post on the boards I moderate. You have that freedom.
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