Other than Death Metal, what are you listening to?

[RocDoc]

Dec 11, 2011 22:01:26 GMT -5 JACkory said:

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I'm sure you have already surmised this, and this is why you think your command will be taken as an insult.

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no, i was actually using it in it's more usual dismissive usage as in 'aw jac, fuck off, blow me ya knucklehead', tho yes, dismissiveness could also be taken as insulting to an individual such as yourself, yearning for reapprobation at every juncture.

over and over and over.

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matt, oh nononO, that was not the ONLY thing you've built into this mountain range obviously. did you ever understand how your over-the-top emotionality over things like hilary, obama, teen pregnancy ALWAYS make you extrapolate your derision into levels of hatred that NONE of those things have ever merited? erm, madonna?!
things with the barest substance, but for years your hormonal shrieking has been on full display.
think about it, how many of your barely post-adolescent 'revelations' you once pounded on so fiercely, so convinced, were largely fucking wrong (higher ed was yet to come) yet here's where you're falsely basing everything that's gone from there. and on arguments from THAT time.
and yeah, i yelled BACK at your wrongheadedness from time to time. bfd, this IS a lot of years.

still, you've played the wacko bitch to theatrical perfection when it's something you've decided to invest your all into. give yourself that credit.

this presumptiveness. you judging me there just now, thinking you know me, carries ZERO fucking weight.

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there's no 'new' paradigm either, jac - you simply think everyone's forgiven you for being that full-on loutish asshole you definitely were, so now YOU say it's become a new game.
don't think everyone who was there has forgotten...it's just me, the guy with the temerity to talk back, who got shat on more than the rest...

that i 'take the bait' when you consider yourself simply engaging in 'sport' with me here is enough evidence of the fact that though ma-a-aybe you have changed for the better, better meds whatevertf is going on with you, you're still engaging in some pretty arrogant fucking games here with someone who honestly is NOT asking for this.
someone who you dearly WISH to make your lesser.

THAT in fact is what makes you a prick and a cocksucker.
Q.E.D.

DID you actually like that guy you were? for awhile i thought you didn't. but here he's back.
fucking walk away from the rabbithole, jac.

[JACkory]

I like you, Doc. You know full well that I do.

And here's the deal...there are no multiple personalities. There is no untreated schizophrenia. If you want to know who I am...to the extent that the Internet makes it possible...you should see me on facebook. I would also include my blog, but I stopped publishing it a few months ago (although I do plan to set a new one up, so you're welcome to visit anytime).

But RS.com? Castaways? You might get 80% me and who knows what the other 20% might be? Just having fun. I've never been disingenuous with anyone who ever posted here who could tell where the joke began and ended. But I was always here for fun. God knows I wouldn't be here right now if I didn't think there was still some fun to be had, no matter there be 5 posters or 50. I know it rankles you and you think of it as an "arrogant game", but you take it too seriously. Many is the time I've almost convinced myself that you are a very, very good troll who gets off on people thinking you're a hot head with a short fuse who can be counted on to explode every single time someone even marginally disagrees. You're not stubborn, you're clever. To be honest I STILL kind of believe that. And of course you couldn't admit it. That would spoil the whole ruse.

So hey, I enjoy our exchanges. That's why I've created a board called 'RIGHT HERE ROCDOC BOO-YAH!", where I hope you will be kind enough to move your hateful commentary directed at me away from this perfectly innocent board about what you've been listening to. Don't let the name fool you, and I have had to explain myself already to someone who just didn't get it, it is not for 'FIGHTING'.

[JACkory]

Paradiddle!

Memory of an elephant, my friend!

[RocDoc]

alright, slightly more 'human' set of conversations. i see this as progress fwiw.

_{Wacko bitch? Hormonal shrieking? Theatrical? Over-the-top emotionality?}


exclusive to 'men of a certain persuasion'?
'effeminate'?
no, or i'll say, only if you choose take it that way...but look i DO have your 'behavior' here as my only evidence, knowing you were late-to-mid teens (accounting for 'hormonal' at least) and that otherwise, your 'life' has been an open book here.
and the fact that you rarely held anything back, often to an 'ew, did he have to tell us that?'...for a pretty large group (of those who once were here) you were giving us a glimpse of something that was ceratinly a 'matter of taste' can i say? certainly something pretty foreign at the least.
i'd say you came off as pretty real. certainly no Dobs, or words&guitar whoever they were.
you also argued with patlogi here in public for all to see, pretty fucking viciously, so come on, bitchiness and theatricality are certainly NOT out-of-bounds statements. good god you guys laid it out.
maybe (similarly to jac) feel you've wiped your hands clean of whatever went on here as you were in fact, growing up....but there's seriously probably a decade of inetraction here. and at rollingstone.
and 'back THEN' is what i AM referring to.
i DO understand you've had difficult times on and off certainly - high school and early college, i sure as fuck did.
but what i tried to get across up there is that this now dismissive attitude bordering on hate, years LATER, which you've still got toward me, hatched when you REALLY didn't quite know which way was up nor wtf goes on in 'life' yet.

which seemingly you've now got a better handle on.
the older you get there's that much less of the radical change like the you JUST went through, high school through college, that's going to happen to you. imo, IF you get to your 30s-40s, your personality IS pretty much set.
so pertaining to me, i didn't (and don't) have so many more of those 'character-changing' milestones to go...the last one was us getting PG and my son being born.
yes, you 'young kids' HATED having pointed out to you how many overwhelmingly more experiences those of us senior to you here, have had in life. the crazy shit which we've hopefully enjoyed and learned lots from, and it is an absolute FACT that's the way it is, knowledge accumulating for us all the time, period, fact.
and to argue it, i'll ALWAYS maintain, is fucking stupid.

it only become something false when that oldster (an all-too-common scenario too) keeps his brain pickled on scotch, shrooms, reefer or any # of things which keep him from participating in 'life'. and yeah there ARE bunches of them hiding in basements around the world, afraid to get out there.

i would hope to god that what i've written DOES ring honest enough to understand that i HAVE participated (absurd intimations of trollism aside, i mean wtf jac?) and i truly AM just enjoying what life has to offer me. music and the 6 million OTHER types of beauty and 'art' that can be found out there - and pleeease add being a Dad to my 7 year old.
but you hated hearing any of my viewpoint then. my politics differed from yours. oh well.
this is now however.
IF that how it's gotta be, well, enjoy, i suppose.

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^{I know it rankles you and you think of it as an "arrogant game", but you take it too seriously.}

so many have tried to talk me down from saying 'boo!' in the face of me being slandered, libelled and demeaned by some of the statements you've (and the handful of other shithead pranksters) so sportingly, cavalierly throw out at me.
my own image of myself, what i've presented when i write here, is 'myself', a part of my essence, an entity who i KNOW is not perfect, but 99.9% of the time just an earnest and gullible guy who has grown up in a very interesting time and who still largely enjoys where he is....i mean i do NOT see myself as any sort of piece of shit (per matt, thanks...and maybe it's just because you weren't there that you do not understand the scope), one who is especially NOT in the league of one who's NUMEROUS times faked multitudes of characters, forcing unsuspecting people to interact with blatantly aggressive, designed-to-unsettle attacks in the form of some sort of wishful guerilla theater. this while rolling stone moderators were sincerely trying to rein in OTHER psycho pieces of shit who had the technical capability of completely shutting the site down.
it didn't make sense, made for a far less enjoyable experience there and i found it far from just 'silly' at the time.
there WAS other similarly damning behavior, which jac considered simply 'creative and light-hearted' probably (except for the groping of big-breasted 'mary' wasn't it? real-life things got back to us there, see?) but i'm not here to rekindle that shit EXCEPT in defense when i'm cast into the slander of 'you're just like jac' - fuck no i am not.
isn't there ANYTHING in people making shit up about you, worthy of being taken seriously?
matt, you just maybe didn't witness enough of what he did.
and that comparison doesn't sit well with me, wonderful as your opinion of jac is at this moment.

[JACkory]

"Big-breasted Mary" was flat as a board. There was really nothing to grope. I don't say that as an insult, but only to point out that your memory is in error.

I don't recoil from that experience. Not at all. In fact, I'm sure that if Mary were here she would tell you exactly what I've been trying to tell you all along. I'm not the 99.9% "earnest and gullible guy" as you say you are. She came up from Dallas to see my band play. We had an interesting evening and made plans to get together again. She changed her mind, that's just about all there was to it. When SheRocks got into the mix all bets were off. She did her thing, I did mine, lots of bullshit got tossed about on both sides and basically Mary did her best to stay out of the spat. You will remember, I'm sure you it did not escape you that she was noticeably silent in the midst of that storm. It was because she wasn't going to jump on the "SheRocks Daily Shit on Jac Train". She had no hard feelings for me. Things just didn't work out, and anything over and beyond that was fodder for SheRocks screes, and I will point out that it was not exactly 99.9% certifiably true. Yes, she was not above being handed a little BS and running with it.

I don't mind you rekindling anything, Doc. But what is your point? I never said I was a complete fictional creation of some disgruntled screenwriter. I said that I'm not 99.9% "real deal" like you claim to be. For that matter, I'm not accusing you of anything. I said I'd considered the possibility that you were a particularly clever troll but I didn't out and out accuse you of it.

Anyway, "wishful guerrilla theater" was fun. Jousting with you is fun, in a different way. You should actually take my proposition as a compliment, seeing as how the sheer numbers of people you have driven away with your act represent a victory, another feather in your hat and a new notch in your belt.

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Oh, Matt. He's right. If you'd only witnessed HALF of what I did you would not be defending me at all. He doesn't realize, however, that you and I have had our own troubled times that were every bit as tumultuous. What he hasn't comprehended is that you and I have a more realistic understanding of what the boards are for. He thinks we should use them for one thing and one thing only...reasoned discussion. Though you have provided him with that, you also understand that not all of us are up for that.

[skvorecky]

Some of my favorite tracks of 2011

[JACkory]

Thanks skvor.

No surprises from me:

[skvorecky]

Clams Casino "Rainforest"


Clams Casino "Instrumentals"




James Ferraro "Far Side Virtual"


Oneohtrix Point Never "Replica"

[RocDoc]

NP:


<sub>Lovers of the oud who worship the instrument as a delicate icon might just be horrified by what happens to it here. Electrified and amplified by powerful Marshall amplifiers, accompanied by a debauched rhythmic bass and clothed in an electronic fur, the Arab lute strides across the centuries that separated it from any futuristic perspectives. At the controls of his supersonic caravan, Mehdi Haddab elaborates a virtuoso rereading of today’s trends. Hand-crafted over the past three years, Kalashnik Love is nevertheless noteworthy for its vast coherency, its infallible ingenuity and its impressive sonic architecture. Throughout the entire saga, soaring bass player Pascal Teillet and David Husser, sculptor of extreme sounds, have remained unfailingly alongside the captain. Haddab provides flexibility and depth to the brilliance of the oud player. In order to grasp the idea behind the album, just take a look at the track “Galvanize”. Composed by the electro rock duo from England The Chemical Brothers, this piece was based on a sample of Berber singer Naajat Atabou with a featuring by rapper Q-Tip and the result shook the spectre of international relations. Grabbing the boomerang in flight, Mehdi gives the discourse an oriental touch, embracing the anger as his own and inviting Algerian rappers MBS, Spex MC from Asian Dub Foundation and activist Paul Kendall to lay their hectic flow over this spiced-up version that will make its mark in North-South relations. It’s the same idea with the cover of the classic Cure “Killing an Arab” sung by Wattie Delay with an invigorated Rachid Taha playing the role of the Arab on duty, the foreigner formerly described by Camus and the argument behind the song, skilfully rejuvenated on this album. Mehdi also pays homage to the traditional ranks, Arab or Bulgarian and to Armenian master oud players Udi Hrant Kenkulian and Charles Ganimian who strengthened him in his vocation. He has also dragged his Yemenite companion in the last DuOud, Abdulatif Yacoub, to sing his love of the psychotropic qat, and invited Rudolph Burger to partake in merciless duels. As hot as a meteorite on hitting the atmosphere, this sexy and flamboyant record will enchant lovers of ruthless fusions.

Translated by Marushka Vidovic</sub>


'ruthless fusions' indeed.

[Thorngrub]

Sup yall.

Hey Matheus....been awhile. How's it hangin'.


Sup JAC, my man. "High Fives" ...

[Thorngrub]

Aug 18, 2011 10:01:10 GMT -5 Meursault said:

Parenting life is lovely....Gonna take a year off work in September to watch them.

Who still pops by the boards? Do Strat-O, and Riley, Drum, Mary, Jesus, etc... do they ever make appearances?

*Koff*

[Thorngrub]

Nov 4, 2010 21:16:51 GMT -5 JACkory said:

no

Y you No Like Gogol Bordello ?

[RocDoc]

*cough*

[wayvedii]

New Guided By Voices album, of course. Let's Go Eat The Factory.

Other stuff:
I really dig that new Real Estate album...need to listen to that some more me thinks.
Some old mix tapes that are really f*&king cool

[Ayinger]

ok,,,,now I'm starting to think Pollard puts out so many discs just so that he can come up with cool titles to them!