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Post by tuneschick on Oct 25, 2006 19:03:53 GMT -5
True enough... I guess maybe it's just a personal thing, because I end up listening to End of the Century as often as I listen to any of the first four albums when I'm in a Ramones mood.
And yeah, he's a bit of a fanboy. I make fun of him everytime he buys some new live thing or bootleg, because they really do all sound the same.
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Post by sisyphus on Oct 25, 2006 23:20:44 GMT -5
The Ugly People vs. The Beautiful People -- The Czars
i don't know ANYONE who listens to the czars but i love 'em and i adore this album. speak up if you friendly with them too, so i won't feel so very alone...
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Post by wayved on Oct 26, 2006 0:08:33 GMT -5
Dont knock the Czars, sisyphus. I played the ever living (you choose your word here) out of that a few years back. Im gonna hate this board. The Czars were important to the people who heard em.
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Post by sisyphus on Oct 26, 2006 0:27:18 GMT -5
hahah.... I LOVE them! It just seems nobody else does! Hooray!!!! I am sending you a philascotrophic cyber hug! Do you feel it?
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Post by wayved on Oct 26, 2006 0:29:46 GMT -5
sisyphus is awesome! Bad stuff dont hate me (for what its worth) Some of the "unimportant albums" I like: (that means guilty pleasures--I think any music that has been a soundtrack to the minutes you spend on this planet is pretty important--anyway...) BOSTON-first album...I dont listen to the radio. I put this on once a year. It really does kick ass for what it is. It blew millions of minds. Its no Bonnie Prince Billy or Guided By Voices but it does kick ass and it does rock and im sure it was before its time when it was unleashed. Supertramp-Breakfast In America--I cannot listen to it all the way through--but "The Logical Song" is something else. Body Count-(Ice T and Crew)--I played the ever living shit out of it. "There Goes the Neighborhood" is such a kick ass song. The intros ("Smoked Pork") made me laugh with adolescent glee (the only time I got in big trouble with the law is when I got "BUSTED" for jaywalking when I was in 9th grade and had to go to fucking COURT!) Fuck the Police-for Wayved.....Fuck the Police...I just wanted lunch.... Vanilla Ice-whatever his first album was--i never had this record but it was the soundtrack to the love off my life and my first "date". I was supposed to meet her at a dance. She was late. Thinking I was stood up, I left. She found me walking home (i lived within walking distance of the club) and she said "come ride with us" so here I am in this carload of girls listening to this preposterous music. I was shy and angry that I was in this position for some reason at the time. I had just discovered Pet Sounds the day prior and just rented Pink Floyds AT POMPEII. I did not say a word. But from the look in her eyes and the phone call I recieved an hour later I knew..... I like all of the Vanilla Fudge albums. Iron Butterfly is cool too. I remember I was record shopping 7 years ago, and this old guy (with women in tow) was looking for a copy of In A Gadda Da Vida on vinyl. The record store did not have it. I was like "give me five minutes!" (i lived right around the corner) and straight up gave him my copy. I really don't know why I did that...Hope they had a good time. Neds Atomic Dustbin was alright as well....What about that band that had an album called BLACK OUT IN THE RED ROOM? what was their name?
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Post by wayved on Oct 26, 2006 0:36:28 GMT -5
Hate me if you must but "Time" by the Culture Club is a great song....Its about the words, man....
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Post by sisyphus on Oct 26, 2006 0:48:44 GMT -5
ha!!! supertramp!!!! i don't own it, but i sing along dorkily when i tresspass across it's vibeys on the airwaves of car radio!!!!
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 26, 2006 9:07:45 GMT -5
Hate me if you must but "Time" by the Culture Club is a great song....Its about the words, man.... Yeah it is. In fact, all of Culture Club's early singles were awfully good. "Church of the Poison Mind" blows away 99% of what's on the radio, then or now.
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 26, 2006 10:01:37 GMT -5
And this is coming from a girl who's husband, at last count, owned 40+ Ramones albums. There can be no overstating the godliness, the supremacy over all creation, that is The Ramones ;D
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 26, 2006 10:03:02 GMT -5
But each band, and AC/DC in particular, has committed the sin of making the exact same album over and over and over ... The 'sin' is in the eye (or the ear, in this case) of the beholder: Some might argue this formulaic approach is precisely what lends these bands their credibility and their endurance.
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Post by Fuzznuts on Oct 26, 2006 10:09:01 GMT -5
But each band, and AC/DC in particular, has committed the sin of making the exact same album over and over and over ... [cough] U2 [/cough]
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 26, 2006 10:15:03 GMT -5
Ain't it so, though-? BOSTON-first album... Supertramp-Breakfast In America-- Body Count-(Ice T and Crew)-- Iron Butterfly ... I hope you'll pardon me for saying this, wayved - your awesome commentaries aside for a moment, but I think these 4 you mentioned above are relatively important to the rock canon. Just my opinion - but you got 1/ Boston - hell, that thing was a staple back in the day. They were an important, influential force in rock music 2/Supertramp - Another important band out of the 70s scene. Roger Hodgson's vocals became famous & his lyrics nearly rivalled those of another Roger by the last name Waters. And that Breakfast In America album spawned several hit singles - everyone I knew back then had this album. 3/ Body Count w/Ice T - the most notorious record to help fire up the rap & metal underground -? Shiiiiiiiiiit, that's important dammit! 4/ & although I never got into em personally (too busy exploring elsewhere is all), I've a feeling of the importance of Iron Butterfly - one of the progenitors of heavy metal, helping to form the blueprint from which this important sub-genre began to evolve. ~ In any case, not trying to be a stickler or anything - - those are excellent choices nonetheless because they help instigate this dialogue. We're all going to have varying degrees of opinion on the relative importance of any band, after all.
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Post by Galactus on Oct 26, 2006 10:21:51 GMT -5
I'd have to agree with Thorn.
1. Boston - One of the few albums I can think of that 75% of it still gets radio play.
2. Supertramp - I've never been a big fan so I'll say "Yeah, what Thorn said"
3. Body Count - Was very important to the censorship debate in music at the time and only slightly less so being the first black metal band to gain national attention (albeit not for being a great band...)
4. Pretty much "what thorn said" again.
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Post by luke on Oct 26, 2006 11:17:47 GMT -5
I saw the Ned's Atomic Dustbin video for "Kill Your Television" on VH1 Classic a few months ago, I couldn't believe they were playing it.
And thorn...if you've never heard that Default song "Wasting My Time", consider yourself real lucky.
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Post by kmc on Oct 26, 2006 13:01:57 GMT -5
The musical landscape today, particularly when considering indie rock, is littered with unimportant great crap.
I like "It's a Shame About Ray". Massively unimportant masterpiece.
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