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Post by kmc on Jun 8, 2006 12:32:01 GMT -5
But if a critic were to take that attitude, his opinion of anything not rock would be incredibly biased.
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Post by NdY on Jun 8, 2006 12:37:11 GMT -5
ken, should i read this thread or will i get angry?
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 8, 2006 13:07:28 GMT -5
The articles posted at the very beginning of this thread positioned rockjism as some sort of religion whereby adherents were closed to or skeptical of anything that wasn't "rock". I am saying that is bad. If rockjism is not that, then what is rockjism? Is it just rock appreciation? If so, then everyone here is a rockist. I posted those links so you could get the criticisms of rockjism. I don't prescribe to those criticisms--I think they are narrow-minded and dont take into accoutn the real existence of Rockists. They are stereotyping Rockists and exaggerating all of the negative aspects. |
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 8, 2006 13:07:47 GMT -5
Read this thread, I doubt if it'll make you angry (since most of it is tangential (at best) to the topic).
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 8, 2006 13:08:04 GMT -5
Um, Paul, you make zero sense to me. You said that rockjism was a big middle finger to disco, whenever I stated that that wasn't the case. Now, you are saying that rockjism encompasses all of this other "international stuff". This is why I think this whole term is total BS. You can't even make a clear statement defining what "rockjism" is.
Understand the general trends of the industry? Should the terms music and industry ever be used in the same sentence ever again? Indie labels don't know what pent up 19 year old freshmen at UT with awkward cramps and hormones want to listen to? "Rockists" (ugh) saying they can tell the difference is a blatant self serving LIE.
Their is no supremacy in the rock aesthetic. It's just music. That's it! It is probably less dangerous and more acceptable than Mozart these days. Give me a break.................
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Post by Thorngrub on Jun 8, 2006 13:10:12 GMT -5
How does the "ROCK AGAINST ROCK" campaign run by the likes of SLEEPYTIME GORILLA MUSEUM fit into all this? *scratches head* *for more info on ROCK AGAINST ROCK, click HERE DAMMIT* " The Museum are unified in these various crafts by the simplicity of their opposition to rock music. In the words of John Kane, "Nothing should be left undone which might contribute to its demise." To this end they employ a most tried and proven destructive force: rock. ROCK AGAINST ROCK. In this they were preceded by Oakland bands Idiot Flesh and Charming Hostess, which brought together Museum members Dan Rathbun, Carla Kihlstedt (violin+), and Nils Frykdahl (guitar+). SGM's initial writings and first shows were with drummer David Shamrock. Drummer Frank Grau, who co-released the first album and managed the band until recently, instigated touring in 2001. Industrial percussion-tornado Moe! Staiano brought his visceral spontaneity from the inception until late 2004. New life has arrived with drummer/orator Matthias Bossi, who took the throne on New Year's 2004, and blossomed like a menacing jungle flower. Finally, with the Of Natural History tour of fall 2004, Michael Mellender, player of percussion and ALL THINGS, rounded out the Museum with his singular brand of hyper-kinetic instrumental dysfunction. " |
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Post by kmc on Jun 8, 2006 13:20:54 GMT -5
Yak, my brother, read it and add your two cents. It's interesting, but like I said, if rockjism is the attitude of rock aesthetic supremacy, then it sucks, pure and simple.
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Post by Rit on Jun 8, 2006 13:29:24 GMT -5
sluts, just give me some of that old time rock and roll music, any which way you choose it.
it don't matter.
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Post by Paul on Jun 8, 2006 13:34:48 GMT -5
There are too many Paul's here....I keep thinking people are talking to me...I'm changing my user name...Any suggestions? Be nice....
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Post by Rit on Jun 8, 2006 13:47:50 GMT -5
there's not enough sluts, tho
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 8, 2006 13:57:26 GMT -5
Yeah, you should change your name to Slut.
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Post by Paul on Jun 8, 2006 14:08:51 GMT -5
Yeah, you should change your name to Slut. that's the best suggestion I've heard so far.... |
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 8, 2006 14:12:29 GMT -5
Yeah, you should change your name to Slut. that's the best suggestion I've heard so far.... Have you gotten any other suggestions? |
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Post by kmc on Jun 8, 2006 14:17:29 GMT -5
How about Paul Slut?
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Post by Paul on Jun 8, 2006 14:23:11 GMT -5
that's the best suggestion I've heard so far.... Have you gotten any other suggestions? No, well, now kMc has suggested Paul Slut...hmm, possibly, and that's the second best suggestion I've read.. ------------ Just read that slate.com article on 'rockjism'; still don't know what to make of it...there's crappy pop, there's crappy rock; and on the flip flop there is good...IMO most music of today sucks, so what's that make me? I reckon I was born in the wrong decade...Most of the music I like is 15 + years old...I guess I prefer instruments, but not necessarily rock n' roll; I dig jazz too, and I like rap groups like the Beasties and the Roots who incorporate live instrumentation w/ hip-hop. I just feel you can be more creative w/ instruments as opposed to computers, drum machines, etc... |
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